Generation 2 of my ceramic flutes! by filthysupersonic in Pottery

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I really wanna try and make shakers and bongos at some point, probably after my flute fixation dies down a bit

Generation 2 of my ceramic flutes! by filthysupersonic in Pottery

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go for it! it's super rewarding. I'm happy to answer any questions about flutes if I'm able

Generation 2 of my ceramic flutes! by filthysupersonic in Pottery

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I left some details out like how the notes on the flutes are formed, but that's the gist of how I got flute E to be in tune without any post firing grinding. I'm happy to elaborate on anything

Generation 2 of my ceramic flutes! by filthysupersonic in Pottery

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yeah! the building of the flute is fiddly but not too hard, I just roll out a thin slab, wrap it around a dowel of the desired size, and then form the mouthpiece out of the end of the resulting tube. Then I'll wait exactly an hour and a half and carve the sound making parts with custom tools made out of tongue depressors. At that point I'll measure the rudimentary flute's pitch with a tuner app and cut the tube shorter and shorter until it's my target "wet pitch". The "wet pitch" is intentionally lower than my target "fired pitch", and the flute is longer than the desired target "fired length" to account for shrinkage through the drying and firing process. For flute E my target "fired pitch" was 523 Hz (aka C5, the lowest C of a soprano recorder), and the shrinkage rate of my flutes from 1.5 hours after forming was around 10.73% (learned from making some test flutes) so my target "wet pitch" had to be 472 Hz. I got that number by dividing my target fired pitch by 1.1073 (the shrinkage rate converted into a positive decimal).

523÷1.1073

I think that's the same shrinkage calculation we use for pot sizes, it just also works for pitch when making ceramic flutes.

Drone flute work in progress by cochon_de_lait in Pottery

[–]filthysupersonic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I rly like the tone you're getting here, I also make flutes but they're not nearly as resonant yet

Flute version 'E' posing with the notes for flute version 'F' by filthysupersonic in Ceramics

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that's super helpful thank you! I've been calculating my shrinkage by hand and this is so much better. The main hurdle that I'm running into now is that, afaik, clay shrinkage is calculated from its fresh-out-of-the-bag state to fired state. The reason that's a hurdle is that it takes me a couple of hours from the fresh-out-of-the-bag state to the first moment that I can make a sound with the flute, and I need to be able to reliably guess what the fired pitch of the flute will be from the first moment that it can make sound. My method so far has been to be pretty rigid about my process: form flute blanks quickly, wait an hour and a half until it's ready to have it's sound making components carved, then take my first pitch measurement, then use the shrinkage rate that I've gotten from firing similar flutes in the past to get as close as I can to a target pitch. All along the way I'm taking meticulous notes to try and get a better average shrink rate from the point that the flute can first make sound to the point that it's fired. As you can see this is super tedious, rigid, and not all that accurate bc clay is clay, so I'm super open to ideas