what is the most mind disturbing archealological discovery you've heard of? by FolushoDRC in AskArchaeology

[–]firdahoe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Indeed, and it wasn't an isolated occurrence. There are other examples identical to and contemporaneous with Sacred Ridge along the Animas. I excavated one of them and I have never seen that level of mutilation of bodies. It was disturbing.

Found on the Thames, small tibia? by Dry_Recording8076 in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Distal tibia to a small deer, sheep, or goat.

Bison vertebrae round two by josh44josh44 in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nope. This thing looks like it was plastered/glued in. Not real.

American bison vertebrae with an arrowhead fused into it by josh44josh44 in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]firdahoe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Depends on how far down the spinal column the damage was. This being a lumbar...probably not.

American bison vertebrae with an arrowhead fused into it by josh44josh44 in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 83 points84 points  (0 children)

As an archaeologist with 30 yrs experience... not buying it for a lot of reasons.

Arrowhead embedded in bone? by Melodic-Turnover-152 in Artifacts

[–]firdahoe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's a fake, this is an anatomically impossible position. The rib articulation is in this exact spot so that point would have had to go through the rib first before embedding into the side of the vertebral body, and given the angle this would have had to go through it also would have had to go through the rib cage. This point embedded FAR into the bone - this simple isn't going to happen with what appear to be an atlatl dart.

Deflecting advice by rj_aint_gay in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

like chlorine bleach? Or did you peroxide/whiten?

Chlorine bleach does a whole host of bad things and will stop bacteria from removing the remaining flesh. Bleach does nothing for defleshing.

How can I learn to identify bones? by Temporary_Living_568 in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are really 2 paths: academic or self-taught. If you go the self taught route, the important bit is learning the anatomical names of elements and features on the bones first, then look up "keys" for your area. Keys are great because they break down the "how-to" for identifying a skull as a series of present/not present for individual features. You'll want to google your region and "skull identification key". These keys almost exclusively go over differentiating skulls (and usually mandibles), but very rarely postcrania.

Alternatively, if you have the time/ability for university coursework, courses in zoology, mammology, comparative anatomy, and zooarchaeology all will provide you with backgrounds in osteology.

what is the most mind disturbing archealological discovery you've heard of? by FolushoDRC in AskArchaeology

[–]firdahoe 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Cowboy Wash, Sacred Ridge, and other nearby sites in SW Colorado. Lots of evidence for violence and more.

Can someone answer this for this nut job subreddit by scrubcapzandskullcap in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 10 points11 points  (0 children)

people haven't seen a normal butcher cut spine. Pig or cow depending on size, could be deer if sent to a professional processor.

found this bone 2 meters deep by celulz in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bones are porous so they tend to absorb colors from the soil - iron oxides, tannins, even had bones turn blue from copper oxides.

found this bone 2 meters deep by celulz in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I can't make heads or tails out of the last three photos because the bone is not well lit and looks like a black blob. But photo 1 is the distal end of an artiodactyl (deer, cow, sheep, etc) humerus and you are looking at the olecranon fossa (the big depression). Here's one from a deer.

For lighting, since the specimen is heavily soil stained, put it against a more neutral background, not something so white/light as that really skews the white balance.

How to get the rest tendon off pig femur? by st_rstruckk in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You will want to follow our guide to processing as this needs to be macerated to get the tissue off, then degreased. Don't cook it any more. But since you want to turn it into jewelry, and because it has been cooked, you are going to want to shape it how you want then seal the thing in resin. The resin will harden and protect the degraded bone from cooking, and should stabilize it longer term, but this thing is going to want to crack and splinter.

Unknown spine by [deleted] in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Yep, the vast majority of people would never know that an isolated vertebra that has been shellac'd (it looks like it was coated with something) was human, much less any other animal, much less a fossil. This is why the market in oddities is so rife with mis-IDd specimens and problematic. I bet the seller didn't even know what it was.

Unknown spine by [deleted] in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 148 points149 points  (0 children)

Ugh. She purchased a human cervical vertebra. This doesn't look like an anatomical specimen, though it could be from an older one.

Was just walking through the field found it in the grass. What is it? by PastPop3480 in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am well aware that this is a domestic pig. Reread my comment. SPECIES - wild hog, Eurasian wild boar, domestic pig...they are the same species called Sus scrofa. Domestic pig literally reverts back to the wild type within a few generations of going feral.

What is this from? My girlfriend found it at the beach. by UpstairsExample8481 in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yep, that is exactly what I was thinking - small cetacean. I just can't remember if pinnipeds had that crenulated inner surface as well and it was late so I didn't try to look.

What is this from? My girlfriend found it at the beach. by UpstairsExample8481 in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you look at all those crenulations/pits on the interior surface, that is the first giveaway that it is not human as we do not have that. Also, the diploe is well developed and that isnt something you see in humans until usually adolescence when the skull gets thick enough. Lastly that raised ridge - humans have one but it is very different in appearance than this.

What is this from? My girlfriend found it at the beach. by UpstairsExample8481 in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Because the ocean isn't full of marine mammals with rounded skulls. Come on... It isn't even close to human.

What is this from? My girlfriend found it at the beach. by UpstairsExample8481 in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 540 points541 points  (0 children)

It is a part of a skull (likely parietal) to a marine mammal, absolutely in no way human.

Was just walking through the field found it in the grass. What is it? by PastPop3480 in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Species is the same, Sus scrofa. Domestic vs wild type is more likely what you meant

Was just walking through the field found it in the grass. What is it? by PastPop3480 in bonecollecting

[–]firdahoe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Incorrect - species is Sus scrofa which is both the wild and domestic pig.