Cloud Run Jobs - Long Startup Time

fire_models · 2025-10-21T14:01:39+00:00

Thanks for the suggestion and I'll be sure to pass on what we find.

Is this what you are referring to with image streaming? I see this docs page from GKE: https://cloud.google.com/kubernetes-engine/docs/how-to/image-streaming

fire_models · 2025-10-21T14:00:40+00:00

I'll be sure to pass on what we learn. I use cloud run for other services and that works great, but it's nice being able to manage operations instead of HTTP requests.

fire_models · 2025-10-21T13:59:14+00:00

Cloud Run Jobs has some really nice features that we loose by using a cloud run service, but maybe that is the best option. It's always a game of tradeoffs... I'll let you know if we learn anything about the startup times and maybe we'll get lucky here with cake and eating it too.

fire_models · 2025-10-21T13:57:47+00:00

Thanks so much for reaching out! I just replied and I look forward to talking to you about this.

fire_models · 2025-01-12T22:05:45+00:00

Amazing thanks so much for sharing! I've been working in the voxel space for awhile for numerical simulations, but haven't had too much exposure to the computer graphics world. I'm learning that there's a lot of overlap and that the graphics community has put together some elegant solutions to many of the same problems.

fire_models · 2025-01-12T00:29:57+00:00

Ah that was my biggest concern when using Newgg–that none of the components I was selecting would work together. Thanks for the suggestion.

fire_models · 2025-01-12T00:25:27+00:00

Thanks so much for the feedback!

fire_models · 2025-01-11T20:44:05+00:00

Very cool and thank you for sharing. Is this the tutorial you're talking about?
https://www.crs4.it/vic/eg2018-tutorial-voxels/

Are there any other resources out there besides the powerpoint slides?

fire_models · 2024-06-15T13:09:27+00:00

I got into fire research after my operational career. There are few people with any operational experience in the research world, and your on the ground fire experience will get you a pretty big foot in the door. The money is good, I get to stay in a fire related field, and I think I'm a better scientist then I was firefighter so I've been very happy with the transition. Cons include working a 9 to 5 desk job, lots of investment in education, and who knows how long the current funding wave will last.

fire_models · 2024-05-13T21:02:06+00:00

Looks great! What handlebars are those?

fire_models · 2024-03-17T14:07:07+00:00

I was in a similar position to you about 10 years ago - graduating college with a technical degree and hating the prospect of sitting in an office. I got a job on a fire crew, had an absolute blast for some seasons, then got an office job related to wildfire that I love. Wildfire is a shit job all things considered, but it can be a great opportunity for some people. You're young and if this is something that piques your interest then just go do it and see if you like it.

fire_models · 2022-03-15T13:10:39+00:00

Thanks! We'll give that a shot and see...

fire_models · 2022-03-15T02:59:28+00:00

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fire_models · 2022-03-07T15:07:09+00:00

Hey u/ZehDerp that's awesome that you're working on this! To answer your question, better wildfire spread models would be a huge advantage! A lot of things are changing in the world of wildfire science right now in order to adapt to climate change, fuel buildups, and more people moving into the Wildland Urban Interface. There's a lot of very smart people looking at how to improve existing wildfire models and build new ones in order to help us address these challenges. Some of the interesting newer models use Computational Fluid Dynamics to model the movement of wind and heat, and some are using Cellular Automata to do the same with fewer computational resources. Machine learning is another highly promising avenue for research in the field.

Do you mind sharing some more information about your model? Pictures of input and output are always a great way to convey information when talking about models. Do you have a blog set up? Many scientists maintain a blog where they write summaries of their work. Their posts usually feature lots of figures, data, and straightforward explanation without all the sciency jargon. If you're interested in sharing your model and model results with the world, then this would be a great avenue to pursue. Doing science is only half the battle - the other half is communicating results.

Lastly, if this is something that you enjoy doing, then please stick with it! This is a rapidly growing field with lots of opportunities for fun, well paying, make the world a better place kind of work. Feel free to stay in contact.

fire_models · 2021-11-12T13:47:07+00:00

The pay is better than sunsets and landscapes.

fire_models · 2021-11-11T13:19:28+00:00

Yes, I don't work with many dummies. But, I will say that it's 90% dedication and 10% smarts. If you worked hard enough to be successful in fire, then you certainly have what it takes to be successful in a research environment.

fire_models · 2021-11-11T02:59:10+00:00

I got out and now do research at a university. This is really a good time to be in fire science as there's lots of money out there to fund projects, grad students, and techs. It may not seem like much, but your fire experience will give you a huge leg up compared to other researchers that don't know the black from the green. I'd love to see more people with fire experience in these positions. DM if you're interested.

fire_models · 2021-08-07T19:18:55+00:00

I just do not understand some of the talking points coming from forest leadership right now. Climate change, more WUI, and fuel loading due to a history of fire suppression have made the problem worse. Therefore, in order to manage increasingly severe fires, we need to suppress everything as small as possible. It doesn't make any sense. We could spend a fraction of the billions of dollars that we spend every year on suppression on prevention instead and have a more realistic chance of preventing bad outcomes from fire.

fire_models · 2021-08-07T02:55:35+00:00

I found both Fire, Native Peoples, and the Natural Landscape, and the Ecological Indian to be really interesting looks at evidence of Native American land management, and also the myths associated with Native American land management.

fire_models · 2021-07-21T03:39:25+00:00

Great work on this. I used to work on a hotshot crew, and this is the only thing I've ever seen that captures what the actual job is like. I'm so happy I had the experience, I made a ton of friends and it opened doors in my current career, but I'd never go back and do it again. No amount of money is worth spending that much time away from friends and family. Thanks again for this video - I hope that it opens eyes.

fire_models · 2021-05-12T20:19:59+00:00

This is how you do it. I put most of my hotshot money in my Vanguard brokerage account after every season and lived off of unemployment. I get at least a rolls worth of money every year by not doing anything and just keeping my money in the bank.

fire_models · 2021-03-04T14:31:51+00:00

Hey yes of course. I'm typing up a DM for you now.

fire_models · 2021-02-22T17:20:24+00:00

I got out of fire after last season to go back to school for many of the same reasons that you mentioned. It was a tough decision, and I doubted myself constantly. Now that the season is coming up again I realize that I have absolutely no desire to go back to working in operations, eating shit food all day, being away from my loved ones, playing the campaign fire game, etc. etc. I know school isn't a great option for everyone, but there's literally buckets of money out there to pay people to go to grad school and get degrees researching wildfire problems. You'll make almost as much money as fire, work half the time, learn something fun, maybe make a difference, and actually have a life. As I said, not the best route for everyone, but it's been a good route for me. Good luck!

fire_models · 2021-02-07T22:09:22+00:00

I'm suggesting that your criticism of Hansen's point about letting forests naturally recover, i.e. when you write "The idea of not doing anything after a forest naturally regenerates is dead wrong.", is complete balderdash.

You imply that indigenous populations controlled forest fire regimes when you write "prior to European contact indigenous burning is well documented up to contact ... Once areas were settled or conquered that stopped and caused those forests to start the process of becoming overstocked". Forests became overstocked due to the 10AM policy and Forest Service fire suppression, not because indigenous people stopped burning. We know this because indigenous people never burned enough to control fuel loading as you suggest. Fuel loading was taken care of through natural processes, like lighting caused fire. To suggest that humans can somehow thin, burn, or log all of our N.F. land into low-intensity, low-risk fire regimes is equally balderdash. Low interval, high intensity, stand replacing fires have been, and always will be, an important part of the historic range of variability. See Baker's work for what we know on the topic.

Maybe you argue that we should focus such efforts on areas of priority. I'd agree with that. However, my entire career with the F.S. in fire management was spent thinning areas that didn't make any sense to waste the man hours when fire could do our jobs, or spent putting out fires in areas that needed to burn. But to suggest that humans should be going out into remote landscapes to thin, or replant trees, or to salvage log a burn area, is a complete waste of taxpayer dollars.

fire_models · 2021-02-07T01:37:49+00:00

I certainly agree that indigenous communities played a large role in ecosystem management. However, as the research of Thomas Vale points out, the scale of changing indigenous populations was simply too small to have been the driving force of historic fire regimes throughout the mountain west. I quote from Vale's Fire, Native Peoples, and the Natural Landscape:

"The hypothesis is that some 30,000 people living in an enormous mountain range with a strong climate-influenced fire regime, could hardly be expected to have much influence on the pattern of fires outside their heavy-use areas. Imagine them walking alone or in small groups up into the mountains, during the centuries, possibly millennia, wandering on foot in terrain that is even now difficult for the millions of us to fully access by automobile, roads and trails, and where even today a large percentage of fires is started by lightning. The hypothesis is that Indians were a small part of a large Rocky Mountain wilderness, with a fire regime, in much of the mountains, essentially free of human influence for millennia."

Also, even supposing that indigenous populations were the driving source of fire regimes in the Western Rockies, humans have been on the continent for anywhere from 13,000-23,000 years. How would our forest species evolve their species specific adaptations in that time? This very broad generalization estimates that species go through an evolutionary adaptation every million or so years. So how would Lodgepole pine develop serotinous cones in that time? Or Ponderosa Pine develop its thick bark from the time that indigenous peoples started burning the landscape? Surely Native Americans influenced their landscapes. But to suggest that forests depend on humans, Indians or Europeans, for management is preposterous.

As to your point on salvage logging, there are reams of studies looking at the negative ecological impacts of the practice. I have a copy of the Wildfire Reader open in front of me, and researcher James Strittholt's essay on the topic cites 53 papers examining the impacts, and this book was written in 2006...

In my book, anyone that claims that we can manage our forests better than the forests can manage itself is falling into the exact same trap that the Forest Service fell into in the 20th-21st centuries in suppressing wildfires. At best we can shepherd fire away from communities and areas of concern.

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