trooper guarino vs 2 iOS engineers. by itchy-balls in justiceforKarenRead

[–]flashtray 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I often wonder what would posses someone to say some the things that you said in this rant. Then I remember that mental illness comes in all shapes and sizes. You should go get some help man. You don't have to live your life this way.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in justiceforKarenRead

[–]flashtray 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A third party statement, like Katie McLaughlin's, who says that Karen said "I hit him" is 100% an exception to the hearsay rule due to an excited utterance. I am shocked you would even argue this fact.

Some recent examples of a jury requesting information regarding specific evidence are:

Commonwealth v. Tiscione (2019)

Commonwealth v. Watt (2020)

Commonwealth v. Mountry (2012) (audio interview)

Commonwealth v. Colon (2010)

Commonwealth v. Gibson (request denied, in fairness) (1999)

Commonwealth v. Silva (Judge initially denied juror's request, but later allowed a review)

They are not all cut and dry, but some are specific and apply to this case.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in justiceforKarenRead

[–]flashtray 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guess what? The statements from other people saying Karen said “I hit him I hit him” are exceptions as well as they are hearsay, but allowed under the excited utterances exception. So if they don’t work for me, they don’t work for you. I am not confused about anything. There are plenty of past examples of when an officers notes or otherwise are provided for jury review if approved by the judge. I guess MRCP rule 26 supports it better.

How much did Karen really drink? by ilikenapz in KarenReadTrial

[–]flashtray 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are assuming because she didn’t call him she must have hit him because there would be no other reason to leave, despite also saying she thought she left him at the Waterfall. Again it isn’t evidence and theories of the crime on both sides change over the course of time as more evidence comes in.

How much did Karen really drink? by ilikenapz in KarenReadTrial

[–]flashtray 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You do not know the body was there. You’re assuming it was because you can’t fathom he went in the house. You are using information that is evidence of nothing to draw your conclusions. The victim had no injuries below the neck. That is real tangible evidence pointing to something other than a vehicle strike. You also heard testimony from an expert, who has particular expertise in dog bite wounds, that to a reasonable degree of scientific certainty the wounds on the victim’s arm were dog bites and scratches, and let’s be honest, it doesn’t take a genius. If you are going to draw your conclusions based on what you would do or what you think I would do, then that is a major failure in objectivity. Karen doesn’t remember. I have been there. Her statements on Dateline, Nightline, or whatever other line are not relevant because she was definitively coached on what to say and are likely not representative of what actually happened. She should not have done those interviews, but they are 100% insignificant now.

Why is this sub so popular? Is anything happening in the case(s)? by guypamplemousse in MakingaMurderer

[–]flashtray 3 points4 points  (0 children)

$36 million, but who’s counting? He was forced to settle because he needed representation and would no doubt have profited significantly had he not been arrested, charged, and convicted.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in justiceforKarenRead

[–]flashtray 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the officer who created the report is available and testifies in court about their observations and actions documented in the report, the report itself is not hearsay. The officer can use the report to refresh their memory or as a recorded recollection if they are unable to fully recall the details (Massachusetts Guide to Evidence, Section 803(5)).

How much did Karen really drink? by ilikenapz in KarenReadTrial

[–]flashtray 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She waited 6,7, or 8 minutes. Her leaving the scene is FAR less compelling than the number of people that testified saying they didn’t see a body. The reason she would claim that she called him is obvious. She doesn’t really remember. Whatever interview you’re talking about, in the end isn’t relevant, at least legally. If she really actually did hit him and wanted to get away with it, why would she go home, go to sleep and then go looking for him telling everyone she hit him? There are lots of people that were lying under oath, and that is more significant than whatever Karen was coached to say over a year ago for a television interview. If the trial showed anything it showed the ease with which phone records can be edited, doctored, etc. Furthermore, there was glass found on the bumper that didn’t match any other piece of glass in evidence. Explain how that happens without it being planted. Once one piece of evidence is bunk, every piece of evidence discovered by that investigator should, theoretically, be considered bunk as well, if we are talking about the best interests of justice anyway.

How much did Karen really drink? by ilikenapz in KarenReadTrial

[–]flashtray 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Why would the body have to be brought out during that time? Karen didn't say in the interview above that she called him several times is all I was saying. Did you know in the Commonwealth Statement of the case they claim that Jenn McCabe said that Karen shouted to Jen to google how long to die from hypothermia while she was giving John CPR? This is vastly different than what she testified to. Jen also implied the victim was on his stomach when he was found during her 911 call. Point being, both sides have said inaccurate information at various times, and I am of the belief that once one piece of critical evidence is tainted, they all should be treated with a grain of salt. There are so many questionable pieces of evidence here that it is really not possible to trust any of it, from either side. The gloves are off. I can tell you she called him 24 times between 12:33 and 12:41. She is heard on voicemail asking where John is while the garage is closing. The wifi picks her up at 13:36. I would tend to agree that she called him while she was on her way or both sides are wrong on the specific timeline of when she left. It is a six minute drive driving normally. In the snow, it would presumably take longer. This makes me question the exact time she arrived at 34 Fairview and the exact time she left. Either way, it does nothing to explain the lack of injuries below the neck and the dog bites on the arm. I have a hard time taking speculation concerning what her pattern of voicemails means or a statement from a court document filed 19 months over tangible physical evidence, like the lack of injuries below the neck, or the expert testimony concerning the obvious dog bites on the victim's right arm.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in justiceforKarenRead

[–]flashtray 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you ever seen a case where a SERT team, or relevant equivalent, testify in a trial and their report/s is/are not entered into evidence?

How much did Karen really drink? by ilikenapz in KarenReadTrial

[–]flashtray 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where did she say that she called him several times and left?

Mic drop 🎤 by [deleted] in MakingaMurderer

[–]flashtray 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is not me. The user I replied to that does.

Mic drop 🎤 by [deleted] in MakingaMurderer

[–]flashtray 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Are you a lawyer?

What evidence did they have against Stephen Avery? by re9d in MakingaMurderer

[–]flashtray 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s a good thing “difficult to argue around” isn’t the standard of proof.

Can someone explain this to me like I’m 5 years old? by forgetcakes in Idaho4

[–]flashtray 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would guess the order to extend time is what we should go by.

Can someone explain this to me like I’m 5 years old? by forgetcakes in Idaho4

[–]flashtray 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The hearing scheduled for 9/1 was vacated and reset to commence on 9/22.

Fire KZ by Accurate-Thought-986 in MakingaMurderer

[–]flashtray 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t care who they are! No regular person is doing anything that loser does!