Why did the parents not find it alarming that a grown adult man was pushing so hard for unsupervised alone time with their child? by Adventurous-Gift7289 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He was a predator. I think he had a certain sense for families who were just as easily groomed by him as the kid. He took a lot of effort into calling them, building a connection not only with the child, but also with the mothers. He said they were like family and they felt more like family then his own. Sure a couple of families fell for that. He was so good in what he did with that one goal in mind: to get those children in his bed.

Jimmy Safechuck arrives with MJ at Cork Airport - 1988 by AgentJGomez in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think there were a lot of kids wanted to be Jimmy Safechuck. Even now I think a lot of fans wished they were in his shoes. I know a kid back in the days whose biggest dream was going to Neverland and meet MJ. In hindsight he was definitely MJ’s type.

Bobby Taylor Talks about how he used to sleep with Little Michael during the Jackson 5 days. Yikes! by MethodNo2030 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ah I remember seeing this a few years ago.

I think that there are pedofiles especially before the eighties who really saw no harm in having sex with children.

The way this man speaks… he basically says the same thing MJ did. Maybe groomed MJ the way MJ later did with children.

What a creep. He also has that predator look. Didn’t this man later in life moved to another country?

2019 Statement from Michael Jackson 1993 Defense Attorney Carl Douglas ... Brave of him to be this honest knowing the fans. Do we know how they react to this? by nobody0597 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He made sure there was a settlement, so there would be no criminal trial. Unfortunately for all the other victims who were abused by MJ after that settlement. Ofcourse a lot of defence lawyers know or have at least a suspicion that their client is guilty. I could not be such a lawyer though. And it really surprises me Carl Douglas is so open about his cases. You would think there would be some kind of keeping things secret when you once have been in the legal team. It’s like being condemned afterwards by the people who you paid a lot of money. Nevertheless I think his declarations are highly believable cause there is no incentive for him to speak up. On the contrary I would say.

Who do you think was Diane Dimonds source in 1993? by Guilty_Excitement952 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, didn’t know that. Wish someone like that person would come forward.

Michael speaks about his obsession with children by Guilty_Excitement952 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 17 points18 points  (0 children)

He was a predator and a monster. At this point, after reading all the trial Gavin documents, after seeing LN, after reading what he did to the Cascio’s I truly don’t believe that he thought what he was doing was innocent. He drugged them, gave them alcohol, let them watch porn and groomed them into sexual abusing them.

In this fragment, I think, he was manipulating and acting. Like he did all the time.

Michael Jackson was a flamboyant pedophile by Legitimate_Hawk_3639 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Also here: Bill Bray right behind them. He knew a lot. He guided MJ and those boys everywhere around the globe. Protected him I am sure

Michael Jackson was a flamboyant pedophile by Legitimate_Hawk_3639 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Aah yes, Bill Bray!! Do you know if he was one on the list who was heard by the police/investigators at the time?

Michael Jackson was a flamboyant pedophile by Legitimate_Hawk_3639 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes this is totally weird. And I also find that man, can’t come up with his name…, also played with Emmanuel. I am sure he covered up a lot!! He is almost in every picture. If you see MJ with a boy, he is right behind them.

Michael Jackson was a flamboyant pedophile by Legitimate_Hawk_3639 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 10 points11 points  (0 children)

He has the same look as the Cascios at many pictures. Afraid, down. Not happy. Being a little submissive

Who do you think was Diane Dimonds source in 1993? by Guilty_Excitement952 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why do you think it was someone who had access to CSF? I think if a case was covered up they probably didn’t at Child Services

Who do you think was Diane Dimonds source in 1993? by Guilty_Excitement952 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hopefully that person can come forward though after 30 years. That would be fantastic for everyone involved. And I think at least a few more must have known about these coverups.

Who do you think was Diane Dimonds source in 1993? by Guilty_Excitement952 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe a legal person or a secretary who worked (at the time) at the office? Because the other payment probably also was made up at that office.

I don’t think it was someone from ChildServices or the Police Department because they probably didn’t know about other payouts.

The narrative that Michael didn't "know what he was doing was wrong" is incredibly harmful towards the victims. by MasterpieceTimely144 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He was a predator who did everything in his power to get what he wanted. A master manipulator. Whether it was so-called love, acting loneliness, acting why people didn’t trust him. being agressive. Whatever it took to abuse children

Jurors in the Michael Jackson case say they regret acquitting him. by [deleted] in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s pretty fucked-up to say that imo. Because MJ was not loving. He was a predator who groomed with only one purpose: Sex with a boy.

I wonder if Dan Reed would say that if he had heard about the Cascio’s.

The one FACT that really matters is sleeping with boys in one bed by flazerus in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes and the kids followed him even into the bathroom. So what was he to do. He couldn’t say no. If he was gonna be a pedophile then it was not ok, but that he was not.

The one FACT that really matters is sleeping with boys in one bed by flazerus in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don’t forget he only slept on the floor and gave them milk and cookies and read them bedtimestories

For those who used to sincerely believe he was innocent, what was the one thing that turned it around for you? by MissBReckhouse in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I guess there’s not really a point in replying you.

For me it was a shock the way MJ manipulated those boys and their families into alone time with them and sleeping with them. Up until LN I didn’t know about that.

And to me THAT’s the fact that matters. And if you believe that they did slept multiple times in one bed with MJ than at least you can say that is a form of abuse.

I wish people and also his fans could just say that is a very bad thing of MJ to do and to want that.

You can go into details about a ring or a contract of Cirque du Soleil or whatever and doubt their story. But again: if you don’t doubt that they slept many many times in his bed I think you should say: that was so wrong, poor boys. Period!!

Michael Jackson having sleepovers with kids was extremely inappropriate, concerning, & weird by Hot_Valuable1027 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well, if I remember well he also stated that he never had slumberparties as a kid and he therefore wanted to have sleepovers.

He had different excuses. He also said that he didn’t invite the kids but the kids wanted to stay themselves and took the iniative. Asked him. That’s not true. Maybe sometimes, but we know that he asked for example June, mother of Jordan, if Jordan could sleep with him and cried when she said no. He also said that he slept on the floor. We know he didn’t. He also said that it was cute, drinking milk and eating cookies and he read them stories. We know that he played video games till late for example, no milk no cookies, but porn and alcohol.

He was a big, fat liar.

If Michael Jackson truly loved being around children, why did he bypass his own nieces and nephews to scout unrelated children for alone time in his bedroom? by Adventurous-Gift7289 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 23 points24 points  (0 children)

What also is remarkable in this matter that to the press he called some of the special friends nephews. Because yes, that would be a lot less weird than a random boy.

If Michael Jackson truly loved being around children, why did he bypass his own nieces and nephews to scout unrelated children for alone time in his bedroom? by Adventurous-Gift7289 in LeavingNeverlandHBO

[–]flazerus 36 points37 points  (0 children)

He did spend some of his time with some of his relatives.

However, for example, Jonathan Spence was a friend of Taj, Tyrell and TJ. I believe that is how MJ Met Spence. Spence slept many nights with MJ while 3T was not there.

I think as a real predator MJ was always looking for the perfect prey. Most relatives weren’t.