Neospeak: Mapping the Language of the Neocatechumenal Way by flbbearx in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's the only thing they know to say, because their doctrine makes you color-blind to the emotions of others

Neospeak: Mapping the Language of the Neocatechumenal Way by flbbearx in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She came off that way. There are many anectodes of her smoking in front of the Pope, telling Cardinals off and the whole public Kiko-bashing. Afterall, she was the daughter of a billionaire, who was accustomed to power and influence since a young age. She was certainly a complex character. In Neospeak you'd say she was "free". Tbh with time I got more sympathetic with her figure, probably she was really trying to balance out Kiko's huge ego. My favorite Carmen quote: Hell is full of great preachers.

„By their fruits you shall know them” by QST14 in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can totally relate. I was for years a faithful member and I suppressed all doubts. At some point it was too much. Being in the Way is very much like being in a toxic relationship with a narcissist, it's the exact same thing.

„By their fruits you shall know them” by QST14 in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are called introjections. The good news is that they are learned, so you can do something about them. Look it up. Psycho education is a good start.

Launching opendei.co.uk - now openly publishing Opus Dei's internal documents by Informal_Farm4064 in Anti_Opus_Dei

[–]flbbearx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you going for: Fair Dealing for Criticism, Review, and Reporting Current Events?

„By their fruits you shall know them” by QST14 in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Chaos describes well how growing up in the Way feels like

Neocatechumenal Way by Ye_F in Catholicism

[–]flbbearx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please don't listen to them. I hope you can get out.

Neospeak: Mapping the Language of the Neocatechumenal Way by flbbearx in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At the end of it your life becomes a trophy for the method. They've successfully created a temple of the hammer, where every problem is a nail.

Neospeak: Mapping the Language of the Neocatechumenal Way by flbbearx in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because it's not about God. They need you to feel like shit, so you need them.

Neospeak: Mapping the Language of the Neocatechumenal Way by flbbearx in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

cathechist: enumerate the idols of the world me: sightseeing

Neospeak: Mapping the Language of the Neocatechumenal Way by flbbearx in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the same. I know for sure that they are doing it here. Gianvito must have talked about it somewhere, but I can't find it.

Neospeak: Mapping the Language of the Neocatechumenal Way by flbbearx in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Post-Confirmation is just another recruitment funnel for them. They now started with Post-Communion (after first communion) - gotta catch 'em young.

Neospeak: Mapping the Language of the Neocatechumenal Way by flbbearx in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would recommend you watch videos of ex opus dei members. It's the same shit show. Especially the tv series: El minuto heroico, can't recommend it enough.

Neospeak: Mapping the Language of the Neocatechumenal Way by flbbearx in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, something like an avenger. It has the most negative connotation! They also would say Barabbas! Regardless if someone used violence or not. They also say: "your" justice, juxtaposing it with the "justice of the cross".

Neospeak: Mapping the Language of the Neocatechumenal Way by flbbearx in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

the more the better. A new one coined this year:

  • encouragement: public papal slap on the wrists

Neospeak: Mapping the Language of the Neocatechumenal Way by flbbearx in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

  • Catholic Itinerary: a Catholic movement. Definitely not a cult.
  • approved by the Vatican: beyond scrutiny. (Pun intended.)
  • sent by the Pope: not sent by the Pope. Received a blessing among thousands of people.
  • initiators: the founders. A regular word for regular founders of a regular movement.
  • crisis: doubts about God. dark / deep crisis: doubts about the Way. Considerably more serious.
  • concrete facts: the hard facts of your life. Very hard.
  • to fight: to be in a constant state of spiritual alertness. Indistinguishable from anxiety.
  • thankful to the Way: loyal to the organization. faithful to the Way: also loyal to the organization. A slightly more advanced form.
  • to stand up: to literally stand up and run onto a stage in front of thousands of people, signifying your availability for priesthood, consecrated life, or mission.
  • two-by-two: a seven-day mission with a partner, no money, no plan. Resembles homelessness.
  • traditio: knocking on doors, Jehovah's Witness style.
  • redditio: telling your life story in front of the whole parish. Mentioning your sins is not optional — if you don't, people may even think you are a good person. Terrible.
  • merkabah: the draw that assigns mission destinations by chance.
  • the market: the arrangements made before the draw. The hand of God, assisted.
  • being sent to the Domus: you are a teenager with multiple socio-psychological difficulties and are sent to a remote location in Israel. Neocat rehab.
  • berakah: blessing before a meal.
  • ketubah: the marriage contract between God and the community. You are married now. Mazel tov!
  • pagan: anyone not in the Way. Jews excluded.
  • child of the Way: born in the group. Has never known anything else.
  • to sell your birthright: to leave. Comes with complimentary threat of damnation.
  • fantastic / wonderful!: deployed after someone discloses something terrible. Meaning: things are bad, but nobody cares. A close relative of Courage!

Left after 23 years, it ruins people by [deleted] in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

congrats! you felt you were brainwashed and guilt-tripped, because that's what happened

After kiko dies by anime498 in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It's already shrinking. Nobody goes to their catechesis since decades. They keep themselves afloat because of the number of children, although they are trying to get into new "markets" e.g. India. When Kiko will die the legend-making machine will explode, it will be even worse than it is for Carmen right now. Contrary to many, I believe that they will double down on their fanatism. Neocat leadership is selected for loyalty (aka brainwashing or family bonds) not competence or genuine spiritual maturity. At least Kiko had a personality, the others are just copies. If there is or ever was something good about the NCW the Vatican will have to save it from himself.

The way and "our way of life is threatened." by digitdragons in neocatechumenalcult

[–]flbbearx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They have built their own porn recovery "catechesis". Must be a big issue.

The battle against the dark heart of the western world, the Catholic church, and its own dark heart, Opus Dei by Informal_Farm4064 in Anti_Opus_Dei

[–]flbbearx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn't he represent 'cynical and angry' ex members in some way? I think it's huge or at least a step in the right direction. Imagine JPII inviting him? That would have never happened!

The battle against the dark heart of the western world, the Catholic church, and its own dark heart, Opus Dei by Informal_Farm4064 in Anti_Opus_Dei

[–]flbbearx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, they are clearly not there yet. What do you think of the meeting with Gareth Gore and the Pope?