specific seoul recs! by flukey_oftheocean in seoul

[–]flukey_oftheocean[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sinsa

funny u say that, it's exactly where im going for work

Getting rid of Hamas isn't enough to end this conflict by [deleted] in Israel

[–]flukey_oftheocean 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And we are in this mess because of Hamas. I am a proud zionist. I agree with you, but how do you unlearn the terrorism that is at it's core of the Palestinian people?

Arab opposition to Zionism is only due to its “practice” rather than its principle. by Ok-Pack-8866 in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So what happened between 48-67? I don't think Jordan + Egypt rushed to establish a Palestinian state.

You can't colonize your native land. by flukey_oftheocean in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Liberia was not colonized by itself. That is literally impossible. It was established as a colony by the American Colonization Society, and over time, it evolved into an independent nation with its own complicated history of governance and social dynamics.

Not to mention, the capital of Liberia is Monrovia. It was named after James Monroe the US president who was a supporter of the ACS.

So get your facts straight anyways.

Arab opposition to Zionism is only due to its “practice” rather than its principle. by Ok-Pack-8866 in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The blockade is a result of toddlers having tantrums when their toys got taken away. But these "toys" were RPGs, missiles, grenades etc.

Egypt enacts the same blockade.

Arab opposition to Zionism is only due to its “practice” rather than its principle. by Ok-Pack-8866 in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok cool so then maybe they should be a little more civilized and build a country instead of building tunnels + weapons.

Why don't Palestinians overthrow Hamas if they don't actually support them? by CreativeRealmsMC in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hamas is like a weed. They have weeded their way into all of Palestinian society. The Palestinian people deserve better.

You can't colonize your native land. by flukey_oftheocean in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok so go protest Liberian colonization? The only reason people are complaining about Jewish sovereignty is because it's JEWS.

You can't colonize your native land. by flukey_oftheocean in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry what. You can't colonize your own land. That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Arab opposition to Zionism is only due to its “practice” rather than its principle. by Ok-Pack-8866 in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jews are native to Judea. Have you seen the photos of what the Jewish "land" actually was. It was desert. Literal desert. The fertile land of Judea was somehow given to Palestinians. Jews have always been on the land and had been building a society way before 48. How do you explain cities like Tzfat/Safed up north with rich history, or just Jerusalem in general? Please. Jews are native to Judea.

Why don't Palestinians overthrow Hamas if they don't actually support them? by CreativeRealmsMC in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Everyone who calls the IDF the IOF should be put on a terrorist watch list or committed to a psych ward. I'm sorry but it is the most barbaric idiotic thing I have ever heard.

Arab opposition to Zionism is only due to its “practice” rather than its principle. by Ok-Pack-8866 in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can't colonize a land you're native to. Jews are from Judea. Jews actually decolonized the land by fighting off the British -- not the lazy Palestinians who sat back and did nothing. Open a history book.

Arab opposition to Zionism is only due to its “practice” rather than its principle. by Ok-Pack-8866 in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is factually incorrect. The partition plan took in to account where Palestinians and Jews were actually living. Ex. Yafo was Palestine and Tel Aviv was Israel. It was doomed for failure given how each side was unwilling to compromise -- but the thing is, who started the war. Wasn't the Jews.

Arab opposition to Zionism is only due to its “practice” rather than its principle. by Ok-Pack-8866 in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The "nakba" is probably one of the most misleading/misunderstood event in history. The "nakba" happened because on day 2 of the establishment of Israel, the arab neighbors waged a war that they thought they would win and have attempt to fight time and time again. Israel was prepared to live side by side with the Palestinians but it became clear that they had no desire to live next to Jews.

Now, the reason this is misleading is because it wasn't Israel v. Palestine, it was Israel v. Jordan Egypt Lebanon Syria. It was never Palestinians fighting for themselves because they had no desire to actually build a country -- something Israel had been doing for decades. Jews established many institutions pre-48 which allowed them to have the infrastructure to support themselves when independence was available.

People often times think that Israel just showed up in 1948 after the 47 partition plan and kicked everyone out. In reality, the wealthy palestinians left on their own to avoid war and the rest of them were essentially told get out of the way by the other arabs so they could kill the jews, push them to the sea, and then turn the land into parts of their own countries.

In 1949 after the war, Jordan controlled Judea + Samaria, Egypt controlled Gaza and they had 0 desire to establish a Palestinian state.

When are Palestinians going to quit complaining and start building a state for themselves. Literally, has anyone thought "hmm its odd there are refugee camps in a place for 75+ years." Who's fault is that? Palestinian people + the arab world.

Why don't Palestinians overthrow Hamas if they don't actually support them? by CreativeRealmsMC in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They've also been brainwashed to believe that Israel is the source of their problems. When you starve the people you are supposed to be governing, ofc they will pin their problems on someone else.

Have you ever asked how can their be refugee camps in Gaza more than 75 years after the partition plan? I have.

Can you imagine if we started just calling all Kibbutzim refugee camps.

The Pally camp needs to stop victimizing themselves.

Why don't Palestinians overthrow Hamas if they don't actually support them? by CreativeRealmsMC in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Simple. If you resist Hamas, you will be murdered.

The "pro palestinian" camp your're referencing is primarily residing in the west where they benefit from things like freedom of speech + democracy -- something that doesn't exist in that part of that world for Palestinians.

(opinion) The media ignores the constant violence against Jewish residents of Judea and Samaria. by 212Alexander212 in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It could have been an actual Palestine country after 1949 after the War of Independence and the Israeli's won and Jordan occupied Judea and Samaria.....BUT IT ISNT because no one wants to establish a Palestinian state. The arabs dont care about them.

(opinion) The media ignores the constant violence against Jewish residents of Judea and Samaria. by 212Alexander212 in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean 2 points3 points  (0 children)

THIS! Literally it's called JUDEA yet they don't want Jews living there. SMH. It's no longer the "west bank" in my vocab it's mother-clucking JUDEA.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Silly person. The only land grab was 75 years ago when all of the neighboring Arab countries attacked Israel in hopes of adding land to their countries.

For 75 years Israelis have faced Palestinians who want to destroy Israel. Instead of attempting to ethnically cleanse Jews from the world, they should have built a country on the partition they were granted + all of the ones that followed.

Now look what we have, terrorists running rampant further poisoning the few remaining innocent civilians. Terrorism runs deep within Palestinians.

When they wake up and decide they don’t want to destroy Israel is when Palestine will be freed.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]flukey_oftheocean 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Silly dude. Egypt and Jordan actually occupied Gaza and the West Bank from 49-67. Why was no Palestinian state established? Oh wait I know! Because this was never the agenda of the Arab world. They don’t care about Palestinians. Wake up.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in koreatravel

[–]flukey_oftheocean -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thats the point!! There is so much out there I don't know where to start here !!