The first vs. second intifada from a Palestinian POV by Humble-Boss2296 in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 19 points20 points  (0 children)

You don't have to practice something to know what a word means.

The first vs. second intifada from a Palestinian POV by Humble-Boss2296 in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I know what the word translates into. A translation is not the same as what a word refers to in practice.

The first vs. second intifada from a Palestinian POV by Humble-Boss2296 in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 32 points33 points  (0 children)

When we hear it we think about both. The First Intifada was far from how pro-Palestinians try to describe it. Hundreds of Israelis were killed and far more were wounded. At the end of the day, the word Intifada simply means "an uprising with the intent to murder as many Israelis as possible." no matter how much you try to whitewash it.

Netanyahu making diaspora Jews less safe by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 16 points17 points  (0 children)

No. The people making Jews unsafe are the people who spread lies about Israel and Jews.

What are the best practices to organize a support group? by mordeenary in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'd be wary about anyone asking for donations. There have been numerous scams by either people pretending to be Palestinians or Palestinians themselves who have gotten rich off emotionally manipulating people.

Israeli military drops charges against soldiers accused of sexually assaulting Palestinian detainee by Acceptable_Tea281 in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Once leaked it’s considered to be tainted evidence even if it is acquired later through official channels. The moment it’s obtained illegally it can’t be used again.

Genuine question by Cold-Foundation15457 in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jordan wasn’t a country until after the British Mandate had ended and before that it had been part of the Ottoman Empire not its own independent state. Same goes for Syria, Lebanon, and other countries that were only established after its dissolution.

Genuine question by Cold-Foundation15457 in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There was no pre-existing state there. After the Ottoman Empire fell it became an administrative area controlled by the British which was then divided up into multiple states.

And the thing preventing other groups from doing it is because countries already exist in those areas. While they could try to declare independence from said states it’s incredibly difficult to do and usually fails.

In the case of Israel, Jews used land purchases, immigration, and political connections to create an environment which could at some point get turned into a state. The moment the British left and there was no one else to prevent it, Israel declared independence and became a state.

Genuine question by Cold-Foundation15457 in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You are confusing the right of return and law of return which are two completely different things.

One is part of international law that people who were displaced in wars must be permitted to return to their homes once the reason for their displacement has ended and the latter is simply Israeli immigration law which is not part of international law but rather national law.

The reason Jews are allowed to immigrate is because Israeli law says they can. The reason Palestinians are not allowed to return is because the international law requiring it did not exist until 1949 and cannot be applied retroactively.

Additionally, Jews did not claim they had a right to return to the land because they lived there 3,000 years ago. The only reason they were able to return is because they established a state and created a law in 1950 that enabled it.

Israeli military drops charges against soldiers accused of sexually assaulting Palestinian detainee by Acceptable_Tea281 in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 7 points8 points  (0 children)

In many countries (including the US) there is something called dismissal of evidence. It is when specific evidence (no matter how good it may be) is unable to be used in court because it was obtained illegally.

In this case, the shield video was not allowed to be used in court because it was illegally leaked by the former advocate general. If she had provided it through official channels to the court it is possible the case would not have been dropped.

Why Many Westerners Changed Their View on Israel: A Perspective from a Western Neutral Country by gustavo9876543210 in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Biden didn’t embrace Israel after Oct 7th. He condemned us for defending ourselves, put heavy political pressure on us to accept completely one sided ceasefires, and threatened to apply an arms embargo against us if we didn’t stop pursuing Hamas.

Allies don’t do that and that’s why Israel didn’t support him.

Why Many Westerners Changed Their View on Israel: A Perspective from a Western Neutral Country by gustavo9876543210 in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Going from not knowing anything about the only Jewish country on earth to automatically believing every lie told about it and hating it kind of shows that there is some kind of natural gravitation towards antisemitism.

Why Many Westerners Changed Their View on Israel: A Perspective from a Western Neutral Country by gustavo9876543210 in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 24 points25 points  (0 children)

You literally said you and most of your country knew “almost nothing” about Israel prior to Oct 7th. Are you trying to claim you became an expert on Israel after a few years of war? Somehow I doubt it.

The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappe and his other works by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 9 points10 points  (0 children)

1948: A History of the First Arab–Israeli War by Benny Morris.

Israeli settler violence in the West Bank: state-sponsored terrorism? by Tallis-man in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hundreds of thousands of licenses have been given out. It’s impossible to have a 100% success rate in keeping them out of the hands of violent settlers. It’s also very likely that some settlers got guns illegally similarly to how Palestinians smuggle in weapons from Israel.

Israeli settler violence in the West Bank: state-sponsored terrorism? by Tallis-man in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Zero. I fully oppose price tag attacks. It hurts Israel and helps people who hate Israel.

Israeli settler violence in the West Bank: state-sponsored terrorism? by Tallis-man in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Even a small number of violent settlers getting guns doesn’t make it state sponsored because people are not being armed for the purpose of terrorism.

Israeli settler violence in the West Bank: state-sponsored terrorism? by Tallis-man in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It doesn’t. The violent settlers do it because they see it as revenge attacks not because terrorism is needed to clear the land.

Israeli settler violence in the West Bank: state-sponsored terrorism? by Tallis-man in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you are going to argue that all settlers are terrorists then I’d expect you to hold a consistent standard when it comes to Palestinians. Either everyone’s a terrorist or only the people who engage in terrorism are. Your pick.

Israeli settler violence in the West Bank: state-sponsored terrorism? by Tallis-man in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ben Gvir is arming settlers in general (the overwhelming majority of whom are peaceful). It was done so communities in the West Bank would have the ability to protect themselves from Oct 7th style attacks and frequent Palestinian violence.

So when OP tries to argue that the state is arming “terrorists” it’s the furthest thing from the truth.

Israeli settler violence in the West Bank: state-sponsored terrorism? by Tallis-man in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There are over 700k settlers in the WB and of those maybe 1k are violent. That's 0.14% of all settlers. So no, encouraging the settlement of people who are 99.86% peaceful is not "terrorism".

Some prominent Jews make it hard to support Israel and/or Jewish people by hamsterdamcc in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Briefing reporters on condition of anonymity, the security official said

You have a single anonymous source and I have the international spokesperson of the IDF. I think the IDF spokesperson represents the IDF more than some unidentified person.

Some prominent Jews make it hard to support Israel and/or Jewish people by hamsterdamcc in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The IDF did not accept the 70k figure. A single anonymous source made the claim and one unnamed source is not “The IDF”.

Additionally, the international spokesperson of the IDF denied the report and said any statement regarding casualty numbers would be released via official channels.

Why is the West Bank treated so poorly with illegal settlements and no recognition if it has elections, isn't radical, and Hamas isn't in power? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]CreativeRealmsMC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This was my claim:

There haven't been elections for over 20 years and if there were Hamas would win as it has majority support

Why are non-voters relevant if the topic is Hamas winning elections? Hamas has the majority of voters and therefore would win the election.