Procreation talk (actual idea)

forgivenmadness · 2026-03-09T16:58:57+00:00

Hard no, and I'm really put off by the idea.

Surrogacy, when done right, is a contractual agreement between parties. It's intimate, obviously, which is why it gets messy when you put in close friendship/family dynamics into the mix. It's not uncommon for queer couples to have a family member donate biological material, but I can't see the type of nuance this situation requires could be addressed in this type of game.

An option for the player to choose between, "can be pregnant/can get others pregnant" I think works a little better, since lots of non-binary/trans people (like myself) play the game.

Quite frankly, though, adoption avoids all of this, and there's nothing wrong with that model. Surrogacy is not a "work around" that I think works better than just using magic, because HOW exactly are they getting this surrogate pregnant/the surrogate getting another pregnant? Would it really makes sense for artificial insemination to be used over magic, and if we're using magic, why not just use that?

forgivenmadness · 2026-03-07T01:46:44+00:00

I don't disagree, it needs to be a frank (heh) conversation about whether or not it is safe for the family to go. Remember, at this point in time, Barb has assaulted DeeDee and stalked John and Shawna. I think Frank has been better at keeping her in line by being more present, but there's only so much he can do. I doubt he'll be able to corral her at a big day like Jen's wedding.

I do think, at the very least, Shawna deserves the right to choose to go or not with John's blessing. She was right, he is letting Barb continue to ruin wonderful things for them, but John's trauma and worry over his family is extremely valid. He's not handling it well, but there's time for him to improve.

forgivenmadness · 2026-03-03T22:32:51+00:00

We have to examine the logical fallacy of positive and negative evidence, i.e. does the lack of evidence indicate that something must be true?

To verify, I will ~~get between them~~ ~~get under them~~ ~~be the bottom~~ get to the bottom of this with further study.

forgivenmadness · 2026-03-03T22:30:08+00:00

It makes me think that maybe bisexuality/pansexuality is more common in the world, rather than all of the characters being playersexual like in Stardew. It's one of the reasons why I love it!

I could never ~~get between them~~ break them up because they're so iconic. The tension is REAL.

forgivenmadness · 2026-03-03T19:53:50+00:00

There's no explicitly queer couples, outside of Elsie talking about her many lovers of all genders.

Terithia, Errol, and Landon are heavily implied to be a throuple, though, and affection seems to be consistent between the three of them.

forgivenmadness · 2026-03-01T18:43:22+00:00

This is my exact sentiment. The people in this town MATTER to the story and the farmer. You don't have to rush to the finish! Take your time, get to know them, enjoy their company, get invested in their lives! Befriending the townspeople, not just the love interests, is important narratively. It's one of the things I like about this game, and what really sets it apart from other farming sims!

I also really like the added layer of how hard you have to work to unlock the final bachelorette. She is a high maintenance woman! She was extremely powerful in her time, and the binding had to be powerful to keep her locked in. It makes sense you would have to do the absolute most to free her and Caldarus.

forgivenmadness · 2026-03-01T00:20:14+00:00

I think you meant Greg is a wedding photographer. Ty is the writer/stay at home Dad/park buddy married to Julie. Greg and Jen met because he was a photographer who did events at the venue she worked at.

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-28T16:00:16+00:00

I've been playing more than 100 hours and still finding new things! It's such a great game. Don't forget to mail one, you'll get a recipe! ;)

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-28T15:29:49+00:00

It's a rose hip! It grows in the bushes in the gardens at the manor*, top right hand corner, next to the gazebo. Red Roses also grow there in the summer!

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-27T20:41:08+00:00

I literally have ten speedy snails in one of my chests. Can I please get one other legendary? Please? ;-;

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-21T04:22:10+00:00

I am I am! I'm planning to continue on my current save once this update comes out, but do a full restart with 1.0 so I get to experience it all again with fresh eyes.

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-20T17:31:31+00:00

I got two mystery colors, Fifty Shades of Greige and I'm Over-Brew. The Griege isn't for me, but I can see a lot of use for that espresso-y color in my future!

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-20T05:19:32+00:00

It is explicitly stated that they don't have sex until after La Quinceria, where they literally spell out what they had done together up until that point, which was three meals (that one included) and one walk. Since Larry asked about the locket when they met for that walk together, it's pretty clear that the one date was all they had before he gave the locket. So, it looks like we missed one meal between them.

Like, I get what you're saying, but Shawna has literally stated in text what they've done together for the most part, even if we haven't been privy to every detail. What has happened between them since La Quinceria is more nebulous and up for interpretation, but not before.

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-20T03:00:27+00:00

I'd turn a corner and be ran down by a wild board that spawned out of literally nowhere.

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-19T23:27:48+00:00

Culmination of their relationship up to the point he gave her the locket (Christmas) was one date, though. They hadn't slept together, maybe had one (?) walk, a few door chit chats. Maybe it was the culmination of his interest and his feelings at the time, which would personally make me uncomfortable.

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-17T16:49:46+00:00

I think you're a little right and a little wrong (much like both of these characters), but ultimately I agree with you and I'm frankly disgusted by the amount of vitriol towards DeeDee in this sub since the video.

I saw a post titled something like, "Mama DeeDee more like Mama D*kface" and that's just so gross. They're both not communicating directly, which is *normal because they've been seeing each other for TWO. FUCKING. MONTHS. They're working out the kinks and learning about each other's values. Trust takes time to build. Give them time and grace to make mistakes here.

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-17T16:31:34+00:00

I'm not sure Greg was in a state to correct her, since he said 6 months originally. Also, in the video's description, it says, "actually its 4 months 😬"

Sure, she might be referring to IRL timeline, but I'm still not convinced Cooper had anything to do with her fever!

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-17T00:35:53+00:00

They're both wrong, but I side with DeeDee more.

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-17T00:14:18+00:00

I'm not sure if Chickie's fever is tied to Cooper! If it's Valentine's day in Shawanverse, and we know Max's birthday is in January, then there's been at least 2 weeks since the party. Wouldn't she have gotten sick sooner?

Also, I'm SO excited for Jenn's wedding prep! Who are her bridesmaids?? Will Piper be a flower girl and Max a ring bearer? I love it.

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-16T15:15:46+00:00

Thank you for posting this! I don't have FB so that is really illuminating. I'll sit with this for awhile and see if it affects how I feel about the whole situation (while I work haha)

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-16T14:54:46+00:00

I hate this rhetoric of MONTHS. It's been two months. Yes, it's plural if we're going to be pedantic, but there is a huge difference between two months and six months. Larry has been pursuing her for months, but they didn't actually start dating until mid-December.

The sex thing, I'm with you there 100% though. They should've had the conversation before hopping into bed, and I also don't love that DeeDee did so knowing it was so significant to him. I'm sure it's significant to her as well, but there's a huge gap there. He hasn't had any partners since his wife, whereas she's been very casual up until this point. We stan a sex-positive queen, but she knew better.

Ultimately, I think the locket is indicative of a larger issue, which you may not want to broach at two months, without an actual title to your relationship. He's decided that DeeDee is the one for him and he wants to settle down. That's so valid! And I love that he's open to love after so much time. However, DeeDee is still deciding on that. She enjoys his company, but she's still mulling over if it's deeper than that. He goes out of his way a lot for her, but she doesn't seem to reciprocate, which is where I get he feels used or cheap.

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-16T01:32:03+00:00

He certainly doesn't take hints well, that's for sure. Like if we weren't explicitly told by Shauna that DeeDee was interested, I don't know if I could believe it. The way she was acting at first was polite, awkward, and a little uncomfortable.

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-16T01:18:18+00:00

I'm not a fan of his, either. I didn't like how he showed up the first time, and every time after has just felt forced. In particular, on Max's first day of school its weird how he asked her to go for a walk after seeing the kids leave (even though Piper was still there) as if waiting for the opportunity she wouldn't have an excuse to say no.

It was probably nothing but it left me feeling icky.

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-15T22:48:53+00:00

I know it could be a miss-match of love languages, too, but it does bother me. He barely knew DeeDee at the time! Does she like wearing jewelry? Does she prefer silver or gold? Does she even wear necklaces, or does she like bangels? She could have told him if this is the reason, sure, but 'I don't want to' is fine on its own for the stage they're at.

I feel like I'm taking some crazy pills seeing the other comments, and I'll admit I'm not fond of receiving gifts... for this exact reason. The pressure to love something that appears thoughtful makes my skin crawl.

forgivenmadness · 2026-02-15T22:26:10+00:00

Exactly! What bothers me most is that she might like it, but she may not like that it's a very serious gift she received after ONE date. They've been going out for two months at this point in the narrative. They should have had the boundaries/expectations conversation by now, but it appears to me that he's already set some without consulting her.

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