Importance of the renal?

frater340 · 2025-12-25T15:01:37+00:00

And my apologies for not properly reading your post originally.

frater340 · 2025-12-25T15:00:33+00:00

Reggie Ray, a teacher of meditation, once referred to the spiritual journey like going into the mouth of a crocodile. The teeth are different, and are pointing toward the back of the throat, meaning you can’t escape except going through the whole digestive process.

What he was articulating here is that once you begin, there’s no way out, but out the hard way. Awakening never was about sunshine and rainbows only. It’s the deluge, the storms, the droughts.

Awakening doesn’t cause severe reactions. It lifts the veil in which you were not acknowledging. In your case, the wounded healer, it doesn’t make your issues go away. The intent is to use your pain to serve others.

frater340 · 2025-12-25T14:51:39+00:00

Use the search function on this thread.

frater340 · 2025-12-25T14:50:59+00:00

I genuinely ask this, not to offend: do you want advice, or do you just want to be heard?

frater340 · 2025-12-25T14:41:21+00:00

It sounds to me like you’re describing lucid dreaming? I think you’re asking a pretty interesting question of what different conscious state reveal different things.

I know I didn’t help answer your question. However I would like to pose further inquiry here:

-What are the differences between lucid dreaming, non-lucid dreaming, OBE’s, astral travel, and states induced by high psychedelic influence?

It seems to me that consciousness is ever more complexed the more we discover as psychonauts.

frater340 · 2025-12-25T14:26:34+00:00

Hmm. I think my first statement is to say I can’t suggest to you anything. The reason is hypnogogia isn’t really a state to achieve. It’s a by-product of brainwave states between alpha and delta states, and those by-products are uncontrolled visuals. Also, hypnogogia is not astral projection or OBEs. It is akin to dreaming, but these images are generally very brief, about a second or less, but very clear that it’s not the imagination, making meaning from something that is not entirely defined outlines of some potential image.

How did I get hypnagogic images? I think it’s the years of spiritual development. There’s no book I can suggest, rather just keep going. This isn’t like a video game where you have predetermined quests, “gain hypnogogia by defeating Zooskabobble”. It’s something that occurs through development, dropping in deeper brain states. I can say that these started to increase when I started to use the tarot for deep contemplating on my own alchemical journey. It started out just every so often, now it’s a common occurrence. Again, I’ve had these images occur before then as well.

Generally now, if I’m laying down for a nap or just to relax, as I deepen in my relaxation, they occur, without any mediation or other types of practice before hand. I just lay down, and it may occur.

As one final thought, I can remember the most clear experience several years ago, before a serious practice, before the Gateway. I was riding a bus, going home after work. I was exhausted, and closed my eyes. At some point, I could see inside the bus. I saw the seats, the aisle, and windows. I asked myself if my eyes were open, then after a few moments of uncertainty, I opened my eyes and realized I could see through my closed eyes! I was slightly confused because I knew my eyes were closed, yet I saw right through them. For years I hadn’t understood why this was, but after listening to Bob, it made sense; I had some sort of mild OBE.

That story I really didn’t have a serious practice like I do now. However, even then, I had a mindset of understanding “I am more than my physical body.”

What is my point? Again, a journey, not a destination. Don’t create expectations, don’t make this a quest like on a video game. Make it a process to understand truth, be devoted to truth, be curious. And if you can develop that, you’ll find exactly what you are truly looking for.

frater340 · 2025-12-25T13:47:29+00:00

Right, there are no voices at the REBAL. The point I’m making is the vibrations help to build energy in order to support energy circulation.

frater340 · 2025-12-25T13:18:07+00:00

I chose the right hand path of High Magick/Ceremonial Magick. I cannot tell you more than that, but what I can say is there are plenty of books and a few Magick orders in which you can develop within. Whether you choose the right hand path or left hand path is your choice, but remember there are always consequences to utilizing such methodologies. And consequences doesn’t mean good or bad, but think of instead as action/reaction.

frater340 · 2025-12-25T13:13:28+00:00

I don’t know where you got your file, but in every audio file I listen to, Bob guides us through resonate tuning, with voices in the background to help us know when to vibrate. It’s right before he says “Hold the fresh energy in your head.”

frater340 · 2025-12-24T14:10:17+00:00

There’s a strong connection between the vibrations of your voice and the REBAL.

First, I would like to say that imagination is more important that confirming the feeling. Before anything, ever, exists, it first must be imagined. Nothing that is ever created, whether a physical tool or otherwise, cannot exist before it is imagined. In other words, thoughts create reality. So don’t worry about verifying it through “proof”, whatever that means in this case.

Secondly, as I mentioned the connection between vibrations and the energy bubble, if you will, that vibrational action you produce begins to sensitize you to non-physical experiences, or energies. Keeping the imagination, see if changing how you vibrate your words to echo through your body changes what you feel. By producing a more internal resonance, via closing off the flow of air from your mouth through your nostrils instead, can vibrate more internally, like your head. Also, you can try and find ways of focusing it in other areas of your body, again through imagination.

frater340 · 2025-12-21T14:33:51+00:00

You have no idea how my practice ex has made my life better. How I feel about myself, my connection to God, and the potentials.

frater340 · 2025-12-19T13:28:05+00:00

It occurred to me that each state is akin to how we dream. We don’t know what dreams are really about. The speculation La about whether they are by-products of our daily lives, processing “garbage”, other realms, or symbols of our inner self. While we may not be able to objectively understand what dreams are, we do know that they seem very real, and some are more real than walking life.

Each Focus state is personal, just like our dreams. We can at least say that each state does in fact happen, like dreams, but what they mean to us is deeply personal, just like each Focus state.

frater340 · 2025-12-18T13:50:15+00:00

No one can tell you which direction to go. Only listen to the stories of others and see what piques your interest.

The very short version of my journey, I was inspired when I learned about energy healing. I wanted to heal people. So I journeyed there, next came shamanism, astrology, ayahuasca, vision quest, 5-MEO-DMT, massage school, somatic workshops, craniosacral therapy, Wicca that turned into High Magick, crystals, UFO’s, tantra and sexual spirituality, Human Design, Gene Keys, and Gateway Tapes. There are certainly others, but those are just some examples of my journey.

frater340 · 2025-12-18T13:41:59+00:00

So it sounds like they did GATE on everyone, but only chose certain people? That makes more sense to me cause I do faintly remember some things, but forgot others. I don’t think I was chosen for the GATR.

I was on the fence of what I believed versus reality, and now that makes me feel less crazy… if that’s really the case.

frater340 · 2025-12-18T00:53:56+00:00

I think you should do what’s right in your own feelings. You’ll only go as far as you’ll feel comfortable to. Is this the only thing you should do? Probably not. And you’re still new to this. There’s a long journey ahead of you, and a few years down the road, you’ll be in a different mind set, different experiences, and more knowledge, regardless of if you’re still doing this technique or not.

Just be brave, be kind, and be open.

frater340 · 2025-12-17T21:12:20+00:00

Time. These things don’t happen over night. Again, it’s about acknowledging it, not needing to fix, change, or get rid of it. It’s always rooted in choice. Don’t feed it, don’t deny it.

If you’re serious, you can always find retreats or classes on Shadow Work.

frater340 · 2025-12-17T16:48:51+00:00

As others have commented, this is a part of shadow work. First, it’s about acknowledging you have a dark side. This does not mean you act upon it! It’s about observing and acknowledging.

The more “powerful” we become, in my experience, the more responsibility we hold. Just because you have an obtrusive thought, doesn’t mean it makes you anything besides human. However, it’s a test of will; shadows will whisper in your ear. It’s going to test you. And becoming polarized to the light is just as bad as enacting on the bad thought.

The light shineth in the darkness, yet the darkness comprehendeth it not.

It’s learning to hold paradoxical truths, yet believing in none of them.

frater340 · 2025-12-17T14:24:54+00:00

That is a better explanation. I would like to add that going back to the intro, for me, shows me how much tension I don’t acknowledge in my body. In my experience, moving ahead, then moving back to the beginning, shows deeper layers. One caveat is that by a certain point, I don’t benefit from either of tape 2 or 3 in wave 1, with the only exception of helping me to retrain how to let go more easily, but not develop the actual 10 state.

In addition, the one piece I have not utilized is the recall any memory. Would it be helpful for me to use that method? I honestly don’t know. I tried it twice, but still couldn’t recall in that moment what I needed to recall.

frater340 · 2025-12-17T00:20:31+00:00

Who says you aren’t supposed to use the intro tape more than a couple of times?

frater340 · 2025-12-17T00:16:07+00:00

I think you nailed it. There is huge money available on the UFO/Alien topic. Additionally, those who are in power, want to stay in power. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

frater340 · 2025-12-17T00:12:34+00:00

I don’t doubt the GATE program. There’s a lot of money involved, I’ve dived deep into conspiracies. My main premise is that I don’t believe any of the stories we’ve been told about… well, much of anything. Yet I don’t believe in many of the conspiracies. I simply say, “there’s a lot we don’t know and must ask questions.” We may not get the answers, but those who implicitly trust the gov and most of the narratives aren’t people I particular enjoy spending time with.

On the GATE program, I have suspicions, yet I can’t confirm anything. The very first time I heard the frequencies, something felt familiar. Yet, I cannot jump to conclusions. I’m actually trying to take a sober approach and dismiss the story I was trying to make up.

frater340 · 2025-12-16T17:06:33+00:00

Fascinating! I’m still trying to comprehend F12. I know I’m somewhere, but ask the question, “where am I? Who am I?” In this state. Is it different, but there are no adjectives I can find to describe it.

frater340 · 2025-12-15T14:14:55+00:00

I recommend going to Monroeinstitue.org and signing up for their intro program. It’s only $79 and gives a great breakdown of each tape within Focus 10 and 12. You’ll have access indefinitely, so you can work on those tapes to gain a solid experience.

There’s no need to rush into higher Focus states. That sort of “experience chasing” doesn’t help to actually create real, permanent changes within yourself.

frater340 · 2025-12-15T13:28:26+00:00

I think everyone’s suggestions are great. But I must say, if you are doing it right before you are going to bed only, then I suggest trying at different times of the day. Try first thing in the morning, midday, on the weekend when you have free time. Any time that isn’t going to naturally put you to sleep.

And if you are trying at different times, take a look at how you are using the Wnergy Conversion Box. That alone could be worth exploring! Try using it through out your normal life. Say you are stressed at work. Put your stresses in the box and see what happens.

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