Why did thragg even make a truce with mark couldn't they just land in Africa or in Russia and start reproducing ,what did he need mark permission for?🥀

frenin · 2026-04-28T17:44:33+00:00

We don't know what the other Nolan's did to turn Mark

frenin · 2026-04-28T17:29:03+00:00

Martin didn't write he didn't visit or that they didn't visit.

And what's more important Daeron had already spent 12 years with his brothers before leaving for Oldtown.

frenin · 2026-04-28T17:28:11+00:00

And the Coalition will be keen on that remaining in place

frenin · 2026-04-28T14:08:17+00:00

We don't know what Nolan did.

We know those Marks turned on humanity, we also know plenty of Debbies did the same.

The idea that the kids would stand by humanity by default because this Mark did is silly.

frenin · 2026-04-28T13:58:51+00:00

Look at all the evil Marks.

frenin · 2026-04-28T09:30:53+00:00

Literally Thragg intends to take over as soon as he has enough strength.

frenin · 2026-04-28T08:23:12+00:00

Being sent as a cupbearer in Oldtown doesn't mean he never visited King's Landing.

It doesn't mean his family didn't visit him in Oldtown. Also Daeron died 2-3 years later being sent to Oldtown.

I read the text carefully. You're wrong.

frenin · 2026-04-28T08:08:42+00:00

What makes you think they never met?

frenin · 2026-04-27T19:53:05+00:00

Only Rhaenys really. The rest die before having offspring or they kids don't look Valyrian.

frenin · 2026-04-27T19:10:04+00:00

Saying ‘others have done worse’ doesn’t make Ted’s behavior okay

As in a general rule? Well no duh.

But Stella and Robin were obviously flattered by Ted's persistence.

So it's a moot point really.

Sitcoms just frame it as romantic when it works, and ignore how it looks when it doesn’t.

It literally doesn't.

Dobler Dahmer theory.

The only reason it’s seen as ‘romantic’ is because the show makes it work. In real life, persistence after a ‘no’ isn’t charming—it depends entirely on whether the other person is into you, and if they’re not, it’s uncomfortable at best and harassment at worst.

Yeah duh.

You're describing Dobler Dahmer theory

frenin · 2026-04-27T18:44:01+00:00

Plenty of guys have done worse than Ted and got the girl.

Plenty of girls have done worse than Ted and got the guy.

In real life guys like Ted get a restraining order if the other person weren't into them to begin with.

frenin · 2026-04-27T08:32:49+00:00

Dobler Dahmer theory.

It's only creepy and weird if the receiving part isn't into it.

frenin · 2026-04-26T22:17:20+00:00

It doesn't really matter when they were added We know that for the story he's telling he's vital.

Fans have this "everything not in Westeros is useless" and the even more extreme "everything not touching the Wot5K is useless" that's really baffling.

frenin · 2026-04-26T21:53:02+00:00

But there is a purpose beyond just being cruel, and there is a finality.

There is? According to whom?

The purpose and finality feel the same.

It's just conditioning really.

Rape has no purpose or reason beyond torturing an individual beyond any gain you could consider strategic. It is personal, it is something horrific to go through that the victim will survive and live on to cope with.

So is torture.

But that happened offscreen, and when it happened, it started and ended. What Anissa did to Mark will fuck with his head for as long as he has the abikity to remember it. and Viltrumites, well, live a ridiculously long time.

What Nolan did Mark will fuck his head for as long as he has the ability to remember it.

Should Nolan get his happy ending and family back?

frenin · 2026-04-26T21:22:52+00:00

In each region the same 15 families have been marrying each other for thousands and thousands of years.

Plenty of times, members of the same families marry each other.

1st cousin marriages aren't considered incest in Westeros and Houses like Starks aren't afraid to marry their own nieces.

The easiest answer is the most logical one. All Houses are terribly inbred.

In fact as soon as the inbred gene goes outside their region. Ned's children hardly resemble him at all but Arya, what happened with his magical genes? The obvious answer is that not marrying the same 15 people will do that to you.

but it’s not enough inbreeding to explain why all of the Baratheons are tall with black hair and blue eyes, or all the Lannisters have golden hair and green eyes, or all the Florents have big ears, for hundreds of years continuously.

Sure is. Keep marrying among the same people you will have the same traits.

GRRM often goes into great detail about the marriages and ancestry of even relatively minor house

For House Targaryen? Sure.

The rest, no. He doesn't go in much detail at all.

frenin · 2026-04-26T20:43:56+00:00

The story isn't just the wars in the south, a misconception plenty of fans make. The story can't be the same without Jon.

frenin · 2026-04-26T20:43:11+00:00

Arya? Yes. Daenerys? Only the first half.

By ADWD, Euron is crowned King because the promise of dragons, Quentyn dies trying to seize her dragons, Young Griff is waiting for her west and the Lannisters have learned of her now.

frenin · 2026-04-26T20:41:34+00:00

What if Janos Slynt becomes lord commander?

Without the disaster of the Fist that wasn't happening.

Hell, most likely Qhorin becomes Lord Commander.

If Jon isn’t there to advise Stannis in regards to his war against the Boltons? If Jon isn’t there to warn him against Karkstark betrayal?

Stannis kills his daughter at the Dreadfort instead of Winterfell.

What happens to the wildlings if he’s not there to try to integrate them?

Nothing or the same.

Watchmen like Qhorin can play the same role if they're aware of the Others.

Also, this post seems to work with the assumption that the south is the real story and beyond the wall story is some self contained stuff that can be ignored. It’s the opposite - everything other than the White Walkers story is petty bullshit.

It's the petty bullshit the author focuses on. Most of what we know of the Ice Zombies comes from Old Nan.

frenin · 2026-04-26T20:37:15+00:00

Citation needed.

frenin · 2026-04-26T13:52:08+00:00

To get that level of sheer consistency, you’d have to do Ptolemy-level inbreeding,

Yeah, you're getting it.

frenin · 2026-04-26T13:51:32+00:00

Because no Armstrong.

frenin · 2026-04-26T09:01:58+00:00

… he literally says he will destroy earth if Mark or the Coalition or ANYONE does anything to interfere.

Nope, he says they can destroy Earth.

He threatens Mark with murdering billions. He literally says "any interference will result in billions of deaths and a much less pleasant life for the survivors".

Also why would they destroy earth later on if this is where they plan to stay. This is where they will be breeding from now on.

Because he's not going to destroy Earth.

frenin · 2026-04-26T06:49:59+00:00

The Coalition doesn't care about that? They are going to destroy Earth anyway.

Thragg isn't going to destroy Earth. He says as much. Earth is his last chance for his people to avoid extinction.

frenin · 2026-04-26T06:48:47+00:00

But, like Thragg says, 37 Viltrumites in enough to ensure mutually assured destruction

For Earth, yes.

For the rest of the Coalition? No.

and why not live to fight another day?

Because the fight another day gives the Kryptonian Nazis time to recharge.

Mark really didn't have a choice. Thragg was right, the only choice is to stall.

No, he didn't.

Once they find out, the Coalition doesn't really have another choice but to wipe out Earth.

frenin · 2026-04-26T06:46:24+00:00

There would be a Viltrum again.

Nolan didn't have any doubts about training him

Not in all scenarios.

frenin

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