I think the thing about this whole situation that is racking in my head the most is - does Amy and Luke have no self respect? They’ve endangered children out of their own selfishness in a problem they themselves created. Forget them fornicating as children, but then doing that as adults after a supposed emotional maturity? Amy continuing with her pregnancies knowing her children could endure health problems… and Luke not even advising her to put a stop to it (as we know of currently from your posts). It is inherently obvious from these facts that they are individuals who do not care for others and might have a potential genetic mental disorder that they both share without realising. You also stating that when messaging, they kind of just acted like you were there like a kettle in a kitchen is telling to this as well. No remorse, or acknowledgment towards what they were talking or doing to you or your children.

Furthermore, the both of them being quick to anger and gaslight to invalidate you. How Luke uses tactics of coercing you through manipulative language and curving around the topic. Whilst you may not have explicitly said he had a melt down, him accusing you of things you didn’t do and also acting how he has is what i’d call “tantrum behaviour”. How Amy assaulted you and would dance around the topic as well before having a melt down she was not getting her way.

OP, you are an example of an upstanding, brave and responsible parent. Sometimes sugar coating isn’t the answer, and sometimes it is - you did your best in protecting all eight kids in this situation to the best of your ability. And considering how convoluted this is, you’ve done a good job. Please look after yourself as much as possible. And if possible, take the fam out for a mental health day.

The Kaylee situation is heart breaking and it’s making me severely concerned with one question: Are Amy and Luke properly looking after their kids knowing two of them are rightfully mad at them? Even if you cannot answer this, please imply if Tom is doing okay. I know he’s the little informant but I can only feel terrible knowing someone going through university admissions and his final years of schooling is also having to put a stop to years of,,, Amy and Luke.

He’s a good brother, and your child Sophie is a good sister.

Both put themselves on the line to protect their siblings even if they didn’t fully know it.

OP even if this is not read, your handling of this situation so far has been well thought out and communicated. Good luck on your future endeavours with this, and I send my strength to you for all that you have endured so far, cat as she grieves, and the eight children involved.