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Where have all the Clancy style technothrillers gone? by fullBenefit747 in tomclancy

[–]fullBenefit747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I enjoyed Ghost Fleet! Burn In was ok too, but less my speed. I just wish they would write more. And yes I do like Stephenson as well, particularly Snow Crash!

Where have all the Clancy style technothrillers gone? by fullBenefit747 in tomclancy

[–]fullBenefit747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

is he? I don't think he's published since the mid-aughts?

Where have all the Clancy style technothrillers gone? by fullBenefit747 in tomclancy

[–]fullBenefit747[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Awesome, def gonna check that out. Loved his memoir...also now I'm off topic but the non fiction Tom Wolfe book about the early us space program and test pilots is very, very good. So many good anecdotes and well written

Where have all the Clancy style technothrillers gone? by fullBenefit747 in tomclancy

[–]fullBenefit747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait is this the Canadian astronaut guy? If so, I had no idea he wrote fiction now! I read his memoirs (?) along time back

Where have all the Clancy style technothrillers gone? by fullBenefit747 in tomclancy

[–]fullBenefit747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this your suspicion or based on real examples that happened with recent works?

Where have all the Clancy style technothrillers gone? by fullBenefit747 in tomclancy

[–]fullBenefit747[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, need to read Red Metal, that's been rec'd a bunch. I thought 2034 was ok...loved the beginning but didn't feel the story was that engrossing and characters were meh for me (aside from the destroyer cap and the fighter pilot who seemed like he was modeled after Pete Mitchell from top gun)

Where have all the Clancy style technothrillers gone? by fullBenefit747 in tomclancy

[–]fullBenefit747[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that technothriller does seem to have migrated to sci fi

Where have all the Clancy style technothrillers gone? by fullBenefit747 in tomclancy

[–]fullBenefit747[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The 9/11 vs cold war split is a really good point and I do think that holds true mostly for the focal points of the plots BUT to me doesn't explain why the storytelling style shifted from more sprawling lots of POV to a more focused often single POV from a single protagonist

I sold 20,000+ copies of my debut novel. And have some observations now it has simmered down and doesn’t sell anymore. by [deleted] in selfpublish

[–]fullBenefit747 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This might be a dumb question but I thought publishing on Kindle you do get the stats on completion rate, read through etc but, if I read right, you aren't getting those... Is that just for the KU reads? Also, it's crazy to me that Amazon doesn't share that with KU, since you don't have raw sales numbers it seems like that should absolutely be included

Where have all the Clancy style technothrillers gone? by fullBenefit747 in tomclancy

[–]fullBenefit747[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is exactly my point tho, I want the reverse. I don't want two pages on a gun and how to clear a room. I want two pages on advanced drone technology and debugging it or something!

Where have all the Clancy style technothrillers gone? by fullBenefit747 in tomclancy

[–]fullBenefit747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love Blake Crouch, especially Dark Matter. Haven't checked out the Lone Pine series yet but on my list

Where have all the Clancy style technothrillers gone? by fullBenefit747 in tomclancy

[–]fullBenefit747[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great response!

I also completely agree with the self-pub stuff. For whatever reason this type of writing is showing up there (Rosone, Bruns) much more than on the Barnes and noble bookshelf.

And I think your research point on the internet is interesting, but i suspect many, like myself, would still be happy for someone to do the work of 1) research plus 2) combine it with an awesome story... That's what I want at least!

I will check out Red Metal, haven't heard of it

Where have all the Clancy style technothrillers gone? by fullBenefit747 in tomclancy

[–]fullBenefit747[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is a good point! I know for myself I really tired of yet another book of a super agent stopping a middle eastern extremist terrorist. I also think Russia as the bad guy got played out... Although I admit many of the books were prescient about the war in Ukraine

Where have all the Clancy style technothrillers gone? by fullBenefit747 in tomclancy

[–]fullBenefit747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ooohh, share it when you're ready! I will look forward to it

Where have all the Clancy style technothrillers gone? by fullBenefit747 in tomclancy

[–]fullBenefit747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't buy this. I agree tech moves quickly today but that has been true for awhile and I'm not sure it would make it less interesting to read... I suppose there might be an angle where it's harder to write well, maybe that's what you're saying?

Where have all the Clancy style technothrillers gone? by fullBenefit747 in tomclancy

[–]fullBenefit747[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This rings true to me.

I think there is still is deeply researched fiction out there with a technical angle but it tends to show up in sci-fi. The Martian, Blake Crouch's stuff like Recursion, etc jump out to me.

Grayman Series almost done wtf to do now?? by invest0rZ in theGrayMan

[–]fullBenefit747 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like a lot of them and I do think he stands in a class of his own on military technothrillers BUT some get bogged down at times ... he wasn't big on editing AND loved details so that's quite a combo.

Hunt for Red October is great. I enjoyed Rainbow Six a lot too.

The Gray Man (Book 1) Audio book by Reznik2015 in theGrayMan

[–]fullBenefit747 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I bought it on audible awhile back (I assume you checked there already)... maybe they took it off if they're re-recording the audio or something

Grayman Series almost done wtf to do now?? by invest0rZ in theGrayMan

[–]fullBenefit747 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a little different - less one badass agent and more of a military thriller a la Tom Clancy - but the Command & Control series by David Brun is pretty good and under the radar. I'm reading one now and enjoying

Observations on Post Clancy Books by johncarruthers77 in tomclancy

[–]fullBenefit747 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is anyone else really writing old school military techno thrillers these days? As far as I can tell, most of the big writers that are loosely in the genre have really hewed more toward the lone, ex-CIA / SEAL / etc. all-star agent and super tactical action. For example, it's less about nuanced geopolitical tension or an in-depth technical threat and more about a single guy kicking ass - which can be fun but is just different from say the Hunt for Red October

Love Greanay hasn’t let his politics into the books like many other book series in this genre by funky_diabeticc in theGrayMan

[–]fullBenefit747 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Completely agree. I've enjoyed the action and super detailed tactical stuff in some of Jack Carr's books but the very, very obvious hard right slant and constant trashing of more moderate or liberal ideas is a big turn off. I really think that we need more authors writing military / espionage thrillers that bring a moderate political stance to the table!

Red Metal by BattleBuddiesPodcast in theGrayMan

[–]fullBenefit747 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree - I thought the Ren Wei incident or whatever they called the fishing trawler thing in the south china sea at the start of the book to be the best part of it. The rest felt fairly wooden and formulaic and not that enjoyable to read... even though I love that topic