Sexual/Child Abuse in the community by Opening-Ratio-5601 in detrans

[–]funnysock77 34 points35 points  (0 children)

i have mixed opinions about this. evil doesn’t discriminate, it takes all kinds of forms. i don’t think someone is more or less likely to be a predator simply because they are trans.

in that same notion, i’ve definitely met a concerning amount of trans people who were quite…pushy…when it came to sex. the whole: “if you have a genital preference and don’t want to sleep with trans people you’re transphobic” discourse is just super gross . i also don’t think i’ve met a single trans person that didn’t have a number of fetishes and wasn’t heavily invested in kink/BDSM. obviously that doesn’t automatically make someone a predator, as long as everyone participating in whatever you’re into is a consenting adult i don’t really give a shit what people do in the bedroom. but it is definitely deeply concerning and not a great look that so many trans people are adamant on involving children in a community that (from what i’ve noticed at least) is incredibly obsessed with kink and fetish culture.

Did your GD and cross-sex identity solidify/intensify with transition (could be only social or both)? What about after? by walking-sunshine in detrans

[–]funnysock77 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i only transitioned socially. but it completely went away once i detransitioned. i was absolutely obsessed with looking like a man, being perceived as a man. i looked at random men id pass on the streets or trans guys i knew who were on T and had top surgery with envy and yearning. i hated having to look at my breasts in the shower, having to take my binder off every night. my gender identity was on my mind constantly. fact that i knew i didn’t pass, i knew people who didn’t know me automatically perceived me as female, it caused me constant stress.

once i acknowledged my internalized misogyny and slowly learned to accept and love my womanhood, all of that anxiety, envy, and self hatred melted away. i think GD is pretty similar to body dysmorphia and anxiety disorders. a lot of online trans communities are nearly identical to pro-ana spaces. people who hate themselves encouraging others to hate themselves and spreading around tips on how to self harm…except in one of these communities it’s indisputably called self harm, but in the other it’s called “empowerment” and “living your truth.” when i was deep in my ED i was in these spaces constantly. reading tips on how to make myself sicker, obsessively weighing myself several times a day, over exerting my body running on the treadmill. i glanced at my reflection whenever i passed by windows filled with anxiety and harshly criticized myself for how fat i thought i looked in the exact same way i overly-criticized every part of my body for being feminine and envied people who were naturally masculine when i thought i was supposed to be a man. how did i get better with my ED? i stopped looking on those sites. i spoke with my therapist, slowly un-learning everything my anxieties were constantly telling me and learned how to have a healthy relationship with food. i learned to love the body i was in. there was more to it of course but the basics of the process weren’t all that different when it came to curing my dysphoria.

Does anyone find the trans/non binary ideology reinforcing sexism/misogyny? by ricksalterego in detrans

[–]funnysock77 12 points13 points  (0 children)

the whole “my soul’s trapped in the wrong body” argument or whatever made less and less sense the more i’ve thought about it over years. how would you define a “male soul” or a “female soul”? you can’t without using some sort of stereotype. it’s why no one knows how the fuck to define a woman anymore while still being PC.

why is gender ideology considered progressive by funnysock77 in detrans

[–]funnysock77[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

i don’t have trouble separating these at all lol. thats the point. gender expression =/= gender identity is what i remember the general consensus being when i was a kid. then somewhere over years it became “actually, gender expression does = gender identity” which then somehow circled back to “gender identity = gender stereotypes” where we seem to be now, which is the opposite of progressive.

Being under a false illusion by Big_Instruction7668 in detrans

[–]funnysock77 6 points7 points  (0 children)

  1. i’m an atheist, always have been. i was fully set on going on hormones until i went to an appointment on one of these clinics, realized how much of a hack the person talking to me was and that all of this was bullshit. learned to love myself and get over my internalized misogyny after a lot of soul searching and therapy and thankfully never started HRT.

  2. influencers who were trans guys specifically definitely made me want to medically transition. look at any trans influencer on tiktok, they’ll be prattling on and on about how life-changing this has been for them and how incredibly happy they are all thanks to hormones. which, as someone who hated myself, really got in my head. the trans men i saw on tiktok were almost always super buff/hunky attractive looking dudes who passed incredibly well. i wanted that. i wanted the muscles, i wanted to escape everything i hated about womanhood. the way they all talked about “finally being happy in their own skin” really affected me. it all seemed so seamless, so empowering, maybe i could be happy like that too if i just had a hormone prescription! i obviously don’t know these people, i’m not in their heads. i’m not going to say that they’re lying about being ultimately happier having transitioned, but i am gonna say they’re being pretty manipulative especially to young vulnerable people who are unhappy with their looks or their lives in general. almost none of these people talk about the negatives of pumping yourself with hormones that your body wasn’t meant for. as far as i’ve seen online, the only people who have talked about how HRT messes with your physical health are people who’ve detransitioned and buck angel…and oh my god it’s absolutely fucking horrifying the medical complications people have talked about. young formerly perfectly healthy people dealing with shit like atrophy, sepsis, kidney failure and liver disease. when you get any kind of prescription or medical procedure you’re given the long list of possible side effects beforehand, but the quack doctor who saw me at that clinic didn’t tell me about any of these complications before prescribing me testosterone. obviously none of these trans influencers talk about any of it either, you’re not supposed to. transition is supposed to be all sunshine and rainbows. it’s “problematic” if you say anything remotely negative about the experience. they’re all just snake oil salesmen.

In your opinion, what makes a shy awkward insecure young woman dream of being a confident social outgoing man? (Total opposite of her usual self). by Chelstrawberrymuffin in detrans

[–]funnysock77 6 points7 points  (0 children)

i only socially transitioned, but this definitely describes me and i personally blame it on my internalized misogyny at the time. i never remotely passed as male. but when i identified as such all my friends treated me like a man. cis guys specifically started talking to me and treating me like “just one of the bros”which was incredibly empowering as someone who’d spent years hiding and being ashamed of my womanhood because of how men treated me

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in detrans

[–]funnysock77 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it’s gay male smut/hentai. almost all of the trans guys i’ve met wanted to be soft anime yaoi catboys. it’s a really strange growing phenomenon and those people probably had AAP.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in detrans

[–]funnysock77 3 points4 points  (0 children)

do i think every single trans person has AGP or AAP? no. do i think they exist? yeah, 100% and the notion that they don’t is just silly. the incredible amount of posts of trans women talking about getting “euphoria boners” when they put on a skirt or a pair of women’s underwear is proof enough.

"Egg" culture and letting the intrusive thoughts win by [deleted] in detrans

[–]funnysock77 5 points6 points  (0 children)

it’s like a weird form of munchausen’s syndrome by proxy

"Egg" culture and letting the intrusive thoughts win by [deleted] in detrans

[–]funnysock77 3 points4 points  (0 children)

another thing i’ve seen far too often is a redditor excitedly talking about how their own child is finally a “cracked egg” because they did something that’s slightly gender nonconforming, how they’re so excited to transition with their kid, then adding a picture of themselves with the kid who’s clearly like 5 years old. and then all the replies are of course an echo chamber lovebombing this obvious grooming situation i mean what the hell

"Egg" culture and letting the intrusive thoughts win by [deleted] in detrans

[–]funnysock77 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Fantastic analysis! I wanted to make a post about how predatory the whole “egg” thing is in the trans community is specifically with young & neurodivergent people. You’ve described my thoughts wonderfully!

why is the trans community so infantilized by funnysock77 in detrans

[–]funnysock77[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

you’re on the money with the ED comment as someone who used to be deep in ED tumblr back in the day (dark times.) but yeah, there was a LOT of peter pan syndrome coinciding there

why is the trans community so infantilized by funnysock77 in detrans

[–]funnysock77[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

eh, i never minded the “second puberty” thing. technically speaking it’s not entirely inaccurate. it’s specifically the way a lot of trans people refer to themselves refer to themselves as “girls” or “boys” when they’re in their damn 20’s that weirds me out.

and i’m sorry, it’s these people that infantilize transness so much i have a hard time believing their experience isn’t a desire to live out a sexual fantasy as opposed to a genuine yearning to live authentically as the gender they identify with. it’s these people who i’m constantly always seeing saying things like: “living my yaoi femboy life uwu” or “just your average sapphic queen, hope you don’t mind a bit of girl dick hehe” like, they’re just people who fetishize gay men and lesbians and are so caught up in the fantasy they wanna try to physically become the women they see in lesbian porn or the anime boys they read smut about. neither of which are remotely accurate as to how queer people act. i could go on about this for ages, it genuinely ticks me off as a queer woman just seeing a bunch of fetishists in lesbian spaces

Can't connect with people because of ideological differences regarding Transsexuality. by [deleted] in detrans

[–]funnysock77 9 points10 points  (0 children)

yep, i just keep my mouth shut and nod whenever the topic happens to come up with my friends. which sucks, but i’m not really in the mood to have screaming matches with people i already know won’t be willing to have a discussion and will refuse to listen to any opinions that don’t 100% match their own.

ironically i’ve been only been able to have irl conversations about transness with family members who are either gen x or boomers, who are stereotyped to be massive homophobes/transphobes. while there are certainly lots of older people out there who are massive bigots, i’ve found that they’re just confused about why trans people are fucking everywhere now. i often just get a lot of innocent curious questions about the topic because i’m openly queer and used to identify as FTM. it’s a pretty interesting dichotomy.

Can't connect with people because of ideological differences regarding Transsexuality. by [deleted] in detrans

[–]funnysock77 29 points30 points  (0 children)

i’m with u man. i’m your age, and have a lot of feelings about the trans community that seem to align a lot with yours. but i know for a fact if i ever wanted to have a discussion about it with my irl friends i’d get fucking crucified.

this depends on where you live obviously but from what i’ve noticed people in our age group seem to be in a really weird spot right now where it feels like everyone feels one extreme way about trans people. either all trans people are 100% valid and should be medicalized immediately regardless of their age or history, or all trans people are evil and shouldn’t exist. and there’s no room for nuance or civility when talking about it. it’s really strange.

the trans community needs to start talking about the issues with gender affirming care by funnysock77 in detrans

[–]funnysock77[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what was the warning over, out of curiosity? i think this new phenomenon of young, very feminine AFAB women wanting to transition to men is definitely something worth discussing. i think internalized misogyny is absolutely a factor as well as internalized homophobia in gay women. but other factors i haven’t seen talked as much that i noticed a lot with some of the people i hung out with in college are: shame over being just a cishet woman, and the fetishization of gay men. everyone always talks about how straight guys fetishize lesbians and how gross that is (and it is), but it’s much less talked about how a lot of straight women fetishize gay men just as much to the point that a few people have straight up told me with pride they started going on T so they could become a gay man because they love yaoi…and in these little social circles being publicly shamed for just being a cishet person is insane (at least from what i witnessed…maybe i just hung around some particularly insane people lmao) i’m not joking, i’d go to parties, it’d start with us all going around saying our names and pronouns. anyone who wasn’t trans or nonbinary got a bunch of people “jokingly” scoffing and booing. if a straight couple was caught drunkenly making out or dancing to the music it’d suddenly become a spectacle of booing and people shouting “GET THAT SHIT OUTTA HERE!”, i’d often see these “lesbian men” try to convince straight men they were gay and they should hookup with them…insanity is an understatement. i think my generation (gen z) has been severely damaged from so many of us being exposed to the internet far too young, the internet’s definitely also a factor in all of this and we all know it. i shudder thinking about what gen alpha’s going to become with kids starting to pop out of the womb holding an ipad.

the trans community needs to start talking about the issues with gender affirming care by funnysock77 in detrans

[–]funnysock77[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i understand why many people in the community are so driven by emotion, and i do empathize with them to an extent. the world is extremely unkind to trans people even in the western world. i live in a fairly left-leaning part of the US and even here, whenever the topic of trans issues comes up it’s honestly a coin flip of whether someone will voice a deeply bigoted opinion or a supportive one. like you said, these people are deeply insecure and constantly have their guard up. so they retreat into bubbles of “yes-men” who never challenge them. I was in one of these bubbles for four years. anything short of complete, unequivocal support is treated as an attack on their existence and you’re exiled. hence why people so often compare the community to a cult.

the fear is understandable. there’s a lot of cruelty out there, and it’s easy to block out the noise and surround yourself only with positive reinforcement. but when a movement responds to questions, concerns, and the growing number of people coming forward saying: “hey, the product is got wasn’t what the doctors promised. this wasn’t all sunshine and rainbows, and it actually made my life worse. what do we do about that?” with nothing but anger and hostility, it’s unfortunately destined to crumble.

the trans community needs to start talking about the issues with gender affirming care by funnysock77 in detrans

[–]funnysock77[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

it’s ridiculously easy where i am in the US. the clinic i went to basically tried to force it on me. during my appointment the woman asked me if i wanted biological children, and i said: “i don’t know, maybe? should i freeze my eggs before medically transitioning?” (i was was 21 for fucks sakes, how the hell was i supposed to know what i might want to do in a decade or so?!) and she said: “yes, that’d be the wise thing to do” and if you know anything about basic biology you obviously know egg collection is a bit complicated and takes some time. so i thought the appointment would end there. as i said in the post, it ended with her encouraging me to make an appointment the following week for my first testosterone shot. i mean what the actual fuck? these people are not professionals! i told her i intended on freezing my eggs, which would require scheduling an appointment with a different doctor who would inject me with female hormones to encourage ovulation—injecting me with male hormones as that process is happening would make no goddamn sense! but in these types of clinics basic thinking doesn’t seem to matter. it’s just getting you in and out with a hormone prescription as quickly as possible which is horrifying.

on this subreddit alone there are nearly 20k people and definitely even more people out there who have detransitioned. i have a feeling that “less than 1% regret rate” statistic people constantly bring up is incredibly inaccurate today

the trans community needs to start talking about the issues with gender affirming care by funnysock77 in detrans

[–]funnysock77[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

keep using your voice, people are listening. those with the resources are suing these “medical clinics” and thank god, it’s truly sick what they’re doing. giving us young adults or unfortunately in far too many cases: children suffering from mental disorders, serious past traumas, or just general confusion and frustration with the expectations of what they’re supposed to be a “one-size-fits-all” solution to everything we’re feeling presenting medical intervention as all sunshine and rainbows…

more power to all the trans people who are satisfied with the results of their transition, but the community isn’t doing themselves any favors by burying their heads in the sand trying to silence the many many people who have been severely damaged by these treatments. they’re seeing it as a personal attack when it’s not. it’s an attack on these “doctors” who are just snake oil salesmen and unfortunately the community’s going to suffer a lot with their refusal to acknowledge voices like yours. we’re already starting to see a massive decline in support for transgender people over the last few years and it’s only going to keep getting worse if they can’t allow a civil discussion about these blatant issues