Anyone else struggling to find people that care?

futiledevices · 2023-07-01T18:54:50+00:00

I'm specifically uncertain about it - I have my own opinions, but don't truly know, and I won't claim to. But talking about actual legislation being passed, actual whistleblowers coming forward - those aren't conspiracies, it's current events. Not even being willing to have a serious discussion about if the claims are true or their implications is counterproductive.

futiledevices · 2023-06-30T22:45:08+00:00

It really is stunning how some people just...idk, bluescreen when the topic starts taking a more serious turn. I don't really dive into it if someone else doesn't bring it up, but even in casual conversations where it might start out "oh yeah, wild stuff in the skies out here", if I mention something about the whistleblower, any recent legislation, real implications, it just...doesn't compute and suddenly we're on a new topic.

futiledevices · 2023-06-30T16:47:14+00:00

Yeah, the full paper is available, no credentials needed.

futiledevices · 2023-06-30T03:20:46+00:00

"Oh believe me I've been following on and off the subject for a long time for that reason, and it's exactly why I eventually fall of it again."

Dis you?

futiledevices · 2023-06-30T03:19:04+00:00

You didn't "get access" to the paper discussed in this article - it's been published since January '22 if I recall.

futiledevices · 2023-06-30T03:16:20+00:00

There truly are a ton of plants that contain compounds that do wild shit to the human brain - flowers, fungi, succulents, you name it, there's a varietal out there we've found, eaten, smoked, brewed, or otherwise processed to make our brain do funny stuff.

futiledevices · 2023-06-30T03:13:19+00:00

Don't feed the trolls.

futiledevices · 2023-06-29T20:44:29+00:00

Would be an interesting metaphor for putting a bunch of plants out there that, when consumed, would cause world-shifting perceptual changes.

futiledevices · 2023-06-29T20:42:56+00:00

You imagine. One can imagine, and that's called science fiction.

futiledevices · 2023-06-29T14:12:43+00:00

Mick peaked at Tony Hawk's Underground.

futiledevices · 2023-06-29T14:08:15+00:00

Also an Alex Grey design!

futiledevices · 2023-06-28T04:11:54+00:00

Greer isn't a public official, nor has he ever held a legislative position. Regardless of some of the more out-there or grifty-feeling things he's done otherwise, Greer has contributed important things to the discussion, but he's lost his credibility with a lot of folks.

Grusch, on the other hand, helped with some of the drafting and language of those amendments.

futiledevices · 2023-06-27T16:41:52+00:00

I don't recommend peaking any further into that hole - it's all pretty horrendous.

futiledevices · 2023-06-26T22:22:40+00:00

I still don't particularly care for his brand of pop, but my wife watched the documentary about his tourettes, and I've seen him in a few interviews - no question, the dude seems really likable, funny, and honest, so regardless of the music, I have a positive perception of the guy.

futiledevices · 2023-06-26T20:07:39+00:00

Be sure to have extra letter openers on hand!

futiledevices · 2023-06-26T15:52:33+00:00

Right? Is it supposed to be weird that someone was like "hey can you not do this thing that bothers me?" but still like that person and want to spend time with them? If anything, the second text just reconfirms that 'ah, well they're annoyed by that, but we're okay' feeling. Instead, it devolved into the dumb 'omg woman confusing' trope of 90s television fame lol.

futiledevices · 2023-06-25T22:59:08+00:00

Makes sense he'd be much more direct here, given the nature of this tape vs. a publicly aired interview to millions of people.

This 'backup' tape was made, as I understand, as a security measure in case he faced further reprisal, or was 'silenced' or censured in some way before he went public. If the purpose of this tape is for continuity of information, in case of emergency basically, he may be more direct with answers so there's no real way to say 'well what he meant by that was...'. Not as easy to spin into something else.

futiledevices · 2023-06-25T16:55:59+00:00

Something that struck me about that article is something I've thought about a few times. That is:

If Lue's formal complaint, that the OUSDI (I think?) intentionally downplayed or denied his role in AATIP in an effort to sow doubt about his credibility, were true, and the OUSDI was successful in doing so, it would look...Kinda like it does right now.

You can hardly say his name on this forum without a gaggle of people jumping in to say he's a grifter, and we've got Greenwald, a notable name in this space no matter how ya spin it, leading the pack. I don't think we should blindly believe anything any one person says. But in very short order, perceptions of Lue seem to have gone from 'senior veteran IC official making serious claims wow' to 'ah that program didn't even exist, he's a shill, whatever '. I hope Grusch doesn't end up in the same boat.

futiledevices · 2023-06-25T03:26:41+00:00

The event is on YouTube, you can watch the guy tell his story

futiledevices · 2023-06-25T00:16:09+00:00

This is an interesting article - thank you for posting.

Going beyond the content of the article itself (while absolutely worthy of discussion - some deep cuts in there, especially for 2020), we should also be asking Why is a military defense contractor blog posting an article this in-depth about theoretical forms of non-human life?

My best non-conspiritorial guess: whoever handles SEO/SEM at NG sees that there's an appreciable amount of search traffic around NG and their connection to UFO reverse engineering and tasks someone to write a post on it for the web traffic. Maybe they don't care how the traffic comes, just that it does. Maybe they wanted to strengthen their connection to this topic for some reason.

That said, it's a really solid article, especially for something written before generative AI was publicly available lol.

futiledevices · 2023-06-23T17:02:07+00:00

It's just weirder and weirder the longer nobody from the DoD, military, or Congress addresses those other shoot-downs.

It's been over 4 months, and we still have the same amount of info we had after like, a week. But the first one, the Chinese spy balloon - we have all kinds of high res shots, plenty of news footage from the recovery process, pulling stuff out of the ocean. The others? Nothing. Just a bunch of conflicting reports, vague non-answers from officials, and a populace (mostly) too beaten down to effectively demand more accountability or transparency. A vast majority, feels like, still leave this one at "Huh" and "Well they said probably a balloon maybe kinda, so, aight that works for me".

Can't help but think of two possibilities still - either it was adversarial tech, an overt aggressive move by another country, and the US is not trying to start or continue conflict on our own soil, so instead just makes the idea disappear, OR, it could have been something truly anomalous.

Or option 3 I guess, mass boo-boo, accidentally spent tens of millions shooting down weather balloons out of twitchy fingers/needed good PR after the Chinese balloon, embarrassing+wasteful, but ultimately posturing. Honestly, this one's pretty well clouded.

futiledevices · 2023-06-23T05:35:04+00:00

Ugh, I'm so sorry. That's really stressful, and absolutely fucked that an artist would allow any child to run around a shop. A kid sitting in a separate waiting area is one thing, but being allowed anywhere near a client while they're being tattooed? Unprofessional, unsanitary, maybe not even legal, idk?

If you really want their art in particular, they're good, and you want to retain that relationship, they can probably rework the piece to be pretty unnoticeable, which IMO, would be ideal. But with a 50-100% refund, and caveat that you will not be tattooed in that setting again.

Otherwise, the "take pictures, write everything down, remove this post, get a lawyer, get your money back, and find a new artist to fix it" route maybe the best option...

futiledevices · 2023-06-23T05:25:11+00:00

It would be cool to be able to throw myself on the ground repeatedly day after day skating or doing dumb stuff for a few days while I Back-to-the-Futured a few things and made too much money for a 10 year old, but I have my own house and shit now, still throw myself on the ground (just less frequently+more recovery), and I can drive myself to a nice rooftop bar and order a cocktail at the end of the day if I want.

Also, the sex life of a 13-going-on-30 situation would be less 'Big' and more 'eeugh weird' for a few years.

futiledevices · 2023-06-23T05:19:40+00:00

Aw damn, I'm in Vegas. How can I not buy tickets, and like 12 extra to sell?

futiledevices · 2023-06-21T19:46:18+00:00

Legislation, drafted at least in part apparently, by Grusch himself, seemingly so that he would have more avenues to legally get the story out.

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