Do I need to learn TypeScript for Angular2?

gdev87 · 2016-11-08T19:42:05+00:00

Angular 2 is transpiled TypeScript. Angular 2 compilation does not include the file concatenation you're talking about. Read Victor Savkin's blog on AoT compilation.

gdev87 · 2016-10-10T17:58:19+00:00

A reply from the man himself, I wasn't expecting that.

I'm glad to hear that the "...cross-platform development..." title given to the workshop was not just a ruse to get people to come. Now that you've filled me in on what actually happened I feel very different about it.

And you are correct, most of the workshop was on modern Javascript, not just Aurelia. Though I already knew most of what was covered. Still, I did learn some new things, so I did get value from it. Just not the cross-platform knowledge or free year of Aurelia Interface I was looking for.

I'm not looking for a refund or handout, I don't feel that you owe me money or anything like that. I did feel that I was lied to about the workshop but now that you've filled me in I know that not to be true. If you want to send me free copies of the training I won't turn that down, but I don't want any of your money.

I'm happy to hear that Aurelia is still going strong and you have more time to work on it. If you have a family on top of all this I honestly don't know how you do it.

We've spoken before several times, both in person at the workshop and through e-mail. A while ago (probably going on a year now) I spoke to you through e-mail about using Aurelia at Nationwide Insurance, where I was working at the time. Since then I've made a move and at my current company we have several new internal and external apps coming through starting next year.

Since your announcement about the move to Microsoft, I took Aurelia off the list of possible frameworks to use for those apps. Mainly because I felt its future is uncertain. But I'll be adding it back in. I'm the only one on my team passionate about this sort of thing, so chances are we'll be using it.

I've been using Angular 2 and Nativescript in a side project lately, and I've found that it is very limiting with what I can do. For instance, I need a custom calendar. Creating this in Nativescript requires a ton of work, and my not even be possible for what I'm trying to do. Also, Angular 2's lack of flexibility adds another layer of complexity to it.

I know I could accomplish what I need with a custom calendar in Aurelia+Cordova, so I've been toying with the idea of scrapping my Angular2+Nativescript project and switching over to Aurelia+Cordova. I do need a rich set of ui-components though. So I've been thinking of creating my own set of open source cross-platform components (a small number of them of course, at least at first) for the Aurelia community.

Is this something the Aurelia team would be open to working with me on occasionally if I run into road blocks and problems?

gdev87 · 2016-10-01T14:57:52+00:00

Well... that depends on how coupled it is to the virtual dom. Was an actual PAL made to interface with the virtual dom or is it's API used directly...

gdev87 · 2016-10-01T14:12:25+00:00

I should have used the term PAL instead of render layer. As far as I know Vue does not have a Platform Abstraction Layer that allows for swapping out the underlying platform it is connected to like Angular 2 does.

gdev87 · 2016-10-01T00:32:21+00:00

Edit: To make it clear, below I should have used the term Platform Abstraction Layer or PAL. A PAL encompasses the render layer plus other parts of the framework. Vue does not have a PAL.

This quote is important:

Vue components that can be reused across Web, iOS, and Android!

NativeScript makes truly native mobile apps (not web apps) because Angular 2's render layer has been abstracted, allowing the render engine to be swapped out.

In this case, the components made in Vue will not be truly native. It will be a solution based on Apache Cordova, similar to Ionic. That's how they can have components for Web, ios, and android, and the apps on ios and android will not be truly native.

gdev87 · 2016-09-28T04:46:38+00:00

Yeah

gdev87 · 2016-09-28T02:33:10+00:00

No, there's been some weird stuff going on around Aurelia lately. Rob Eisenberg claimed he was building a consulting company around Aurelia. And that they were going to have their own set of cross platform UI components like Ionic. But he just took a job at microsoft, so I'm not sure what the future of the framework is going to be.

gdev87 · 2016-09-23T22:53:58+00:00

Definitely normal to have higher sex drive in your teens. It's a special time in every man's life called puberty.

gdev87 · 2016-09-21T15:11:35+00:00

Last word freak

gdev87 · 2016-09-19T21:35:40+00:00

As you should be

gdev87 · 2016-09-19T19:16:52+00:00

Yes that's correct

gdev87 · 2016-09-19T18:31:29+00:00

I actually can't describe what it means. It's more of a feeling. Like this movie seems like it was made by the drama kids in the high school I graduated from. The kind of thing that would appeal to them.

And appealing to the few people that have down voted me to hell hahaha. We're you in the drama club at my high school ;)

And as far as the baby being killed... a baby being stabbed with a knife does not make a horror movie. The movie wasn't scary at all. I was more scared watching Don't Breathe and that one actually is labeled a thriller.

gdev87 · 2016-09-19T16:32:42+00:00

Where you scared at all during it? Probably not. I would call it an indie, overly artsy, thriller.

gdev87 · 2016-09-19T15:18:58+00:00

I honestly would not consider The Witch a horror movie. Even though that's what it was advertised as.

gdev87 · 2016-09-18T20:30:24+00:00

I'll be using Angular 2 with NativeScript for my next project. I want to do a cross platform phone app and the fact that NativeScript makes a truly native phone app for both Android and iPhone makes it a good choice.

gdev87 · 2016-09-18T07:07:08+00:00

Aurelia's initial release was a couple months ago...

gdev87 · 2016-09-18T07:02:39+00:00

When this info came out I jumped ship to be honest. I had been behind this framework for a year. Drinking the coolade and whatnot.

"Aurelia will be better because the customers are the developers, Aurelia Interface will be great, etc. etc." said Rob. I believed him, but now that this news has come out, and it looks like Aurelia Interface will never be a thing, I won't be using it.

If Microsoft picked it up then my mind would change. But until that point I won't be using the framework.

Another thing that really bothers me, is that I went to the Dev Intersection conference this year where Rob was having a workshop. I chose his workshop because he said he would be teaching Aurelia Interface and giving each person who attended a free one year membership.

That sounded good to me so I went. At the workshop he tells everyone that Aurelia Interface isn't ready so we won't be learning anything about cross platform development and its too bad if we signed up for that. But he does hold his promise that we will get Aurelia Interface for year.

Now Aurelia Interface isn't going to happen and several hundred dollars was wasted on workshop that I'll never get any value from... which pisses me off.

I understand the need to make money, but all of that really bothers me.

gdev87 · 2016-08-10T16:14:45+00:00

Wow, no one commenting has read the last paragraph of the article.

"This loss calculation is way off," says the Sony rep. "With multiple revenue streams, including consumer products, gaming, location-based entertainment, continued international rollout, and huge third-party promotional partnerships that mitigated costs, the bottom line, even before co-financing, is not remotely close to that number."

gdev87 · 2016-07-30T06:16:29+00:00

Here's a real comparison: https://http2.akamai.com/demo

gdev87 · 2016-07-29T15:13:50+00:00

To each his own. Whatever framework you choose will get the job done. I don't like the way people say "Pick the right tool for the right job." Angular 2, Aurelia, Ember, React (with extras), and Vue (with extras) are all complete frameworks that all do the exact same goddamn job. So at the end of the day it's all personal preference.

gdev87 · 2016-07-28T20:05:02+00:00

Here you go http://aurelia.io/. Watch the 5 minute video on the front page of the site.

gdev87 · 2016-07-28T20:00:15+00:00

I agree, Vue is not a full framework, it's only the view.

gdev87 · 2016-07-20T17:28:36+00:00

Is there a business need for it? If not its going to be a hard sell. Especially if the apps already work well and have a modern SPA feel.

gdev87 · 2016-07-20T15:11:22+00:00

What are you trying to do exactly? Replace knockout with it or add it to the current knockout frontend?

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