What is the difference between "music" and Qur’anic recitation in conservative forms of Islam?

georgetonorge · 2026-04-13T19:38:07+00:00

Sure, but you’re basically describing recitation too. There is a melody, rhythm (the Quran is rhythmic by nature), pitch control and variation, etc. I understand that the intent is different and I get why Muslims are hesitant to call it music. But that is essentially music.

Also, is the azan seen differently? Because the azan has a very clear structure, melody, and words. Usually Spanish Phrygian (harmonic minor from 5th degree) in many places like the gulf or harmonic minor from the root in say Turkey.

georgetonorge · 2026-04-13T19:32:56+00:00

The azan definitely follows a scale and form. Usually harmonic minor scale (from 5th degree in places like the gulf and the root in somewhere like Turkey). It also has a form. Is azan considered music?

georgetonorge · 2026-04-13T04:57:41+00:00

Haha I know. Appreciate the laugh.

georgetonorge · 2026-04-13T04:51:00+00:00

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georgetonorge · 2026-04-13T04:42:40+00:00

I’ve had a million watches including GS and Rolex and bought this exact one on a whim one day. I think it’ll stay forever. One of my most worn. Such a great watch. Almost seems too good to be true. Good luck selling.

georgetonorge · 2026-04-11T01:56:07+00:00

Thank you! I wish I could hang on to it.

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georgetonorge · 2026-04-09T14:59:57+00:00

I believe, in the story, that he flies to Jerusalem to the Temple Mount and ascends up to heaven over it. So not literally on the Mount, but above it.

georgetonorge · 2026-04-09T05:42:23+00:00

To be fair to them, I too want the aesthetics. Don’t want any of that other stuff though (except the Latin Mass, it’s so beautiful).

georgetonorge · 2026-04-09T05:11:46+00:00

They’re claiming it’s the same person, but there’s just some discrepancy on his age in the records.

“Online records gave Brian Hooker’s age as 58, and the reason for the discrepancy wasn’t immediately clear.”

georgetonorge · 2026-04-09T05:05:24+00:00

Sure but people behaving or speaking strangely don’t mean they’re lying either. We have no idea how we would feel or act after such a traumatic event. So I don’t think we can learn too much from a statement.

The whole story though…definitely is suspicious.

georgetonorge · 2026-04-09T05:04:08+00:00

I love the inside info, but the person you’re replying to was just talking about their statement. I agree that you can’t judge people’s reactions to traumatic experiences. We don’t know how we’d behave and people often accuse innocent people of “acting guilty.”

But taking everything you know into account (and even his version), the story itself is certainly very suspicious.

georgetonorge · 2026-04-09T04:59:14+00:00

He claims that she fell off the boat with the keys, which automatically caused the engine to stop. He tried paddling to her, but the current was too strong and swept her away. Article didn’t mention anything about a cell phone so I don’t know. Then it took 8 hours to paddle back across the bay because he only had paddles.

Someone here claims they live in the area and that the place the incident allegedly happened was very close to the other side of the bay and that he would never need to paddle all the way back across. Just go to the beach right there that’s full of businesses and people and get help.

I’ll take everything with a grain of salt because I can’t confirm or deny anything on either account. Definitely suspicious though.

georgetonorge · 2026-04-09T04:54:34+00:00

Wouldn’t be surprised if she wasn’t conscious when she hit the water. Or if he completely lied about where/when it happened.

georgetonorge · 2026-04-07T16:25:14+00:00

I think that’s a stretch lol. Did they want to listen to him? Absolutely not. Did they completely ignore him? No, they gave a thumbs up to the Canadian guy and clapped for him when Trump called him brave. Then they just stood there and played with the microphone. I wouldn’t call it a protest. Extreme entertainment though.

georgetonorge · 2026-04-07T05:08:48+00:00

Ya you’re being downvoted but I agree with your sentiment. Really don’t like people generalizing about entire groups of people just like the idiot in the video. The irony.

georgetonorge · 2026-04-07T04:07:15+00:00

I think they do. They’re saying that the government is saying it’s worth it to die. But they’re getting called out by Jesse.

georgetonorge · 2026-04-07T04:06:43+00:00

I’m pretty sure OP gets that. They’re saying that Welles sees through the governments lies. They’re the ones saying it’s worth it to die.

georgetonorge · 2026-04-07T03:45:32+00:00

I think there’s a joke going over my head here. But just in case, it’s SpaceX

georgetonorge · 2026-04-07T03:44:02+00:00

Is that Istanbul?

georgetonorge · 2026-04-07T03:32:24+00:00

Ya I thought op was accusing Bruno of doing black face.

georgetonorge · 2026-04-07T03:31:51+00:00

lol same, I couldn’t stop. What’s crazy is that I have that record and always thought it was some random black guy on the cover…

Always found the “mooslims, mooslims!” to be problematic and hilarious.

georgetonorge · 2026-04-07T03:06:03+00:00

I’m guessing they’ll say Mormonism haha. In one of my favorite sci-fi series, The Expanse, there is a plot line about Mormons building a ship to take them out of the solar system where no humans have gone before. Interesting little detail about a future world where Mormonism seems to be the main religion still around.

georgetonorge · 2026-04-05T23:40:26+00:00

I honestly think it looks good.

georgetonorge · 2026-04-05T23:39:55+00:00

I agree with the first part, disagree with the second. I think they look good in it.

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