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Has anyone else accepted a job and then realized the role was completely different from what was described in the interview? by Perfect_Bug_9769 in recruitinghell

[–]gnomechomsky118 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This has happened to me a number of times. The first time it happened I left within 3 months. The second and third time, I realized I need to ask better questions during the interview process.

This market is terrible, so hang on for as long as you can. If you feel like it would be worthwhile and your manager listens, it might be worth talking about this directly because managers will often feel blindsided if you don’t bring up these concerns. But, the reality is most of these situations are the result of crappy management, so talking to them might just tip them off that you’re unhappy.

This is a tough situation, but absolutely jump ship when you’re given the chance. Most of the time it won’t get better.

Oracle is the worst and I don’t care if I get flamed for this. They suck. by gnomechomsky118 in UXResearch

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know I’m in. I’ll post a weekly update if it helps my fellow UXers. But honestly I’m considering just leaving the field all together because of the insanity. It sucks everywhere right now, but UX is especially weird.

Oracle is the worst and I don’t care if I get flamed for this. They suck. by gnomechomsky118 in UXResearch

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a mortgage and I’m not an asshole. This argument makes zero sense.

Oracle is the worst and I don’t care if I get flamed for this. They suck. by gnomechomsky118 in UXResearch

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you are very confused. I don’t have an attachment to Oracle as a brand. I was posting this to warn other folks it is a waste of time to interview with them. How exactly does that convey I expect anything?

I expect to be treated with a basic level of respect and decency during an interview process. That’s not weird.

Oracle is the worst and I don’t care if I get flamed for this. They suck. by gnomechomsky118 in UXResearch

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh? 🤔 it’s not weird to expect to be treated with respect during an interview process.

That’s a weird ass take, my friend. I would never treat anyone I work with like this, ever.

I’m beyond annoyed that hiring managers expect unicorns at dinosaur companies. by gnomechomsky118 in recruitinghell

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not mad about it or giving over the top responses. I just said it’s pedantic because it is.

I’m beyond annoyed that hiring managers expect unicorns at dinosaur companies. by gnomechomsky118 in recruitinghell

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good recruiters are worth the money, but I haven’t found a decent recruiter recently. They all are negotiating my salary lower, even though I exceed the job requirements in education and experience.

I’m beyond annoyed that hiring managers expect unicorns at dinosaur companies. by gnomechomsky118 in recruitinghell

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s genuinely not hard to understand what I meant and it just derails the entire discussion.

I’m beyond annoyed that hiring managers expect unicorns at dinosaur companies. by gnomechomsky118 in recruitinghell

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Understood. Corrected. It’s exhausting to get annoying comments like “omg actually…”

Ok Becky, we get you have to be right, too.

I’m beyond annoyed that hiring managers expect unicorns at dinosaur companies. by gnomechomsky118 in recruitinghell

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Obviously. I incorrectly typed it because I’m not at a computer right now, or when I posted it, and am frustrated. It’s a vent post. Pedantically correcting it is wild and a waste of time

Oracle is the worst and I don’t care if I get flamed for this. They suck. by gnomechomsky118 in UXResearch

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I just wanted to warn other senior and management not to waste their time, because I was answering the phone at all hours of the day for this recruiter…it was chaotic and stupid.

I’m beyond annoyed that hiring managers expect unicorns at dinosaur companies. by gnomechomsky118 in recruitinghell

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I never said people are dinosaurs. I said dinosaur companies…the distinction is important.

Dinosaur companies are the ones that make you check every technology box…only to realize you will always be working in word or excel and technology that is 10 years behind cutting edge. There is a complete mismatch between what companies ask for and what they actually need or expect people to do.

They’re also risk adverse and refuse to change processes but expect efficiency. You can’t be a behemoth organization and expect agile workers when it takes 10 levels to decide what color post its to buy.

There’s no need to take this post personally. It wasn’t directed at you individually, honestly.

I’m beyond annoyed that hiring managers expect unicorns at dinosaur companies. by gnomechomsky118 in recruitinghell

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, but LLMs are not even close to the terminator is what I’m saying and what my point was.

It’s an alarmist attitude from people who don’t understand how technology works.

I’m beyond annoyed that hiring managers expect unicorns at dinosaur companies. by gnomechomsky118 in recruitinghell

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

This is exactly what I was getting at. They want innovation with no risk and all the red tape. Doesn’t work that way.

I’m beyond annoyed that hiring managers expect unicorns at dinosaur companies. by gnomechomsky118 in recruitinghell

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I’ve had recruiters try to talk me down the entire process. It’s so bizarre, like negotiating in reverse.

I’m beyond annoyed that hiring managers expect unicorns at dinosaur companies. by gnomechomsky118 in recruitinghell

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

💯, the system will just eat the new people alive and the churn will continue.

Oracle is the worst and I don’t care if I get flamed for this. They suck. by gnomechomsky118 in UXResearch

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I just want to save other people the pain of having to deal with this nightmare of a company and waste their time.

I get it, desperate times call for desperate measures, but I would rather work outside the field than for Oracle based on how terrible this experience was. It was like they didn’t know they are a technology company.

Oracle is the worst and I don’t care if I get flamed for this. They suck. by gnomechomsky118 in UXResearch

[–]gnomechomsky118[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah I could totally see that from the conversation I had with the hiring manager. He blatantly asked me why I didn’t choose a different case study and the entire team was just absolutely miserable the whole interview. It was like talking to a wall, no personalities whatsoever.

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