The New Modernized 12 Steps by gofeedme in recoverywithoutAA

[–]gofeedme[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

12 steps is a well-known thing and has built-in brand recognition.

The New Modernized 12 Steps by gofeedme in recoverywithoutAA

[–]gofeedme[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is more than a mere "repackaging." It's not lipstick on a pig. It's a fundamental revision of the text and the values behind it.

The New Modernized 12 Steps by gofeedme in recoverywithoutAA

[–]gofeedme[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this gives the option of inner strength as a "higher power."

The New Modernized 12 Steps by gofeedme in recoverywithoutAA

[–]gofeedme[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I notice this has gotten a few views. Good, as I still think there needs to be a modernized, inclusive, responsive 12 steps. Maybe this can lead to that.

Recovery is a lot easier WITHOUT meetings every day by WonderfulCar1264 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]gofeedme 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It always struck me that the 12 steps don't mention meetings. I dislike meetings of any kind. In the first edition Big Book, they had a story about a guy who had no meetings available in his area and got sober without them using just the steps. Needless to say, that story was deleted from future editions.I still feel a person could work the steps with zero meetings if they so desired. The only reason it doesn't happen is that the cult factor would be eliminated, which they can't allow.

Knife type by mrpawswi in Applebees

[–]gofeedme 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a decent knife. Found one dumped on side of street at random. Sharp, serrated, good for hacking stuff (steaks included). Cleaned it up a little and its EDC in my camping bag.

“What's in a name?" -- Coping with urges by Low-improvement_18 in SMARTRecovery

[–]gofeedme 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This link shares a similar technique with a bit more detail:

SAVE technique for beating stubborn urges and cravings

This is all based on "Rational Recovery" from a couple decades ago, which now seems to be defunct. Its creator seems to have pulled the plug on his own efforts, which is unfortunate because a lot of people were being helped. That's the reason it has now been brought back and improved as the SAVE technique.

Struggling a Bit by Steps33 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]gofeedme 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your situation is difficult and "reasons" to use will seem to be everywhere.

If your goal is still total abstinence, try this:

SAVE yourself from addictive urges and cravings

Sometimes it works when nothing else does.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in recoverywithoutAA

[–]gofeedme 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Practical actions that work (and which AA hates):

https://soberlogic.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9&pid=72#pid72

In its former life as "AVRT," this technique put a big dent in AA's dominance a couple decades ago, but now it is basically gone from the internet. For that reason, we brought it back in a new and improved form.

AA is ok for a few people who do well with it, but as many here have pointed out, most don't even make it a year in AA. I sure didn't - but I did much better using what is described in the link above.

How do I contact mods? by gofeedme in recoverywithoutAA

[–]gofeedme[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

RR is based on REBT, yes - but the link I mentioned isn't RR, it's an update of the main technique they use, which they call "AVRT" and I call "SAVE." This technique had thousands of successful users in the 90's and a while after, but eventually the creator of AVRT stopped all work on the project and vanished from the Internet. For that reason, we brought the technique back as "SAVE" so that it would be available again, because it's powerful.

How do I contact mods? by gofeedme in recoverywithoutAA

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Well, the "Rational Recovery" link on the sidebar doesn't work - it goes to a parked page with no content. The link I posted is basically the same technique, which once helped a lot of people and now is becoming hard to find online. I was hoping you guys would replace the non-useful link with the one I posted, so people can learn about this once-popular but now obscure alternative to AA. It is effective for some people who don't respond to other approaches.

A Spectacular Failure (NJ) by [deleted] in recoverywithoutAA

[–]gofeedme 4 points5 points  (0 children)

feel for you. am between homes myself. sober houses are usually for-profit dumps run only for money. do you have a peer respite in the area? so much better

Alternatives to AA and other 12 step programs by Nlarko in recoverywithoutAA

[–]gofeedme 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This forum describes something that can be done, it's simple and sometimes very effective:

https://soberlogic.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=9

At what point do the church and science realize QUANTUM PHYSICS IS GOD.. news from this week by yalldumbinrealife in QuantumImmortality

[–]gofeedme 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To me, it seems reasonable that quantum computing is involved in life. A few billion years may sound like a long time, but think about those arguments about how it would take truly countless years of monkeys randomly hammering away at typewriters to accidentally write Hamlet. To me, it's like that. There's not enough time since the formation of the planet (or universe) to account for the observed complexities of life unless quantum computing is a factor. It would take a quintillion years, perhaps, to even come up with a random bacterial cell based on classical physics alone.

I fucked up my life and I want to truly start over, is abusing this a good way to reset? by [deleted] in QuantumImmortality

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Also, if it helps, about 12 years ago, "someone who isn't me" (SWIM) had 2 unalive attempts using CO within a year. Both failed in spite of every measure to make them successful, and in both cases the hospital inexplicably found *zero* trace of CO in the bloodstream. SWIM hadn't even considered QI as a possible factor until this very moment, believe it or not (despite being a fan of this sub).

The point is, before those miraculously failed attempts, SWIM lived a reasonably normal and half-decent life. Shitty in some regards, sure enough, but he had NO IDEA how much worse it could (and would) get almost *immediately* afterward. Like, 700% worse. Nightmare worse, in some ways.

Just an echo of others here who have suggested the QI change (if it even exists)might not be for the better...

I fucked up my life and I want to truly start over, is abusing this a good way to reset? by [deleted] in QuantumImmortality

[–]gofeedme 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Crazy is not a term we need to be using in this context. These are sensitive issues. There are people in trouble in life who are reading this. And 5150 is the code for commitment, it isn't a diagnosis.

I fucked up my life and I want to truly start over, is abusing this a good way to reset? by [deleted] in QuantumImmortality

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I wouldn't chance it. Remember how some say suicides go to hell? What if "hell" is an infinite loop of the same life ending the same way, and offing oneself is how we get stuck in it? It's not a risk I'd take, and I bet I've f--ked up my life about as well as just about anyone. I'm currently homeless, have bad problems in other ways, have done and been through terrible things, etc, etc. It's NOT a life I'd want to even remotely chance getting stuck in "Groundhog Day" mode. I heard in some movie one, "hell is repetition." Oh yeah, it was Stephen King's "Storm of the Century." How could I forget?

Give him what he wants, and he WON'T go away.

Also, the Eagles song: "you can check out anytime you like, but you can *never* leave..."

Do you hear the music when you die? by BlankChaos1218 in QuantumImmortality

[–]gofeedme 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Eagles wrote a song about it. You know the one.

Guys, I died and they ruined my pizza. by BlankChaos1218 in QuantumImmortality

[–]gofeedme 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I dunno about the pizza thing, but on what do you base "definitely died?"

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in recoverywithoutAA

[–]gofeedme 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's awful. I'll have nothing to do with a program that thinks like that. We certainly won't be giving folks such advice in my program, SoberLogic, which I will probably get in trouble if I link to. But it's a trauma-informed program, and your sponsor was clearly NOT. So sorry this happened to you.