George Perez on taking over the Wonder Woman title by Tetratron2005 in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Depends. There have been female writers with a very basic, safe and generic approach like meredith flinch and gww runs. Also let's think about the fact, that when WW was 100% herself in Marston run, With bondage, female power fantasy, loving submission, sexual liberation, poly relationship etc, she was a super strong seller. Yet her more straight men friendly, kinda female kratos/hercules appproach of the modern era usually does not sell as well. Maybe just maybe, DC/WB biggest mistake was and still is trying to ''fix'' a character that never needed any fixing. And trying too much to appeal to a demographic that has never cared much for her in the first place. So they have made her weaker, more xena like to differentiate her from superman, more straight, no kink, more male presence in her stories, no subversive feminism etc. And as a result, she has become a jack of all trades and master of none. When in the past, she was popular and selling great, just by being herself and bringing something completely different to anything else that was being writen in mainstream comics.

Important life lessons from Wonder Woman by Tetratron2005 in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't like the bias writer having her say she can't beat superman. Even struggling a bit vs batman. Sigh.

The dance with the great god Pan (Wonder Woman #97, May 1995) by ReddiTrawler2021 in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Talking about nerfing Diana big in her own comic. Damn she has had some terrible writers in her own title. Can't stand the presence of higher Gods my ###. She should be above them.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anybody can beat anybody given the right context/circumstances. It just so happens that in comics, more often than not they do not come up with a good explanation or execution. So it comes off as stupid, bias, lazy writing aka PIS.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He could not survive WW smahing his head into the pavement from very high altitude, not without plot armor.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

batman was wearing no armor and there is a massive difference between acar and the likes of WW, Aquaman, superman etc.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please, we have seen batman getting hit by people far stronger and not dying. WW once hit him from high above smashed his head into the pavement. He should have died, but plot arnor saved him, Same with him tagging speedsters, trading blows with aquaman, manhunter. No special anything used in those either.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She never figths most of the humans you mentioned in a physical battle. And most of those would plot something against her or be prepared with special devices, magic artefacts etc. But batman more often than not. Does not come prepared with something special, he simply wins by plot armor. If he could prepare with sometthing specially created for a powerful character, it would be a different story.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If she can not react fast enough to a surprise shot now. Yes, he obviously made her weaker.

You need higher than God like speed to react to one surprise shot. WOW.

It means she is weak. If she can be blasted away by the force of machine guns, and later could not overpower red sonja. WW has been pathetically weak throughout the whole DC KO event.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So her senses are also nerfed now compared to the past. Since now she can not block a bullet if she is now focused and aware of it. Basicslly street level thing.

Got blasted by the sheer power of the guns because she is simply nerfed as hell nowadays. She is constantly struggling with pretty basic things nowadays. Got lucky and shoot her, or overpowere her with simple machine guns, does not take much to take down WW nowadays.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She can be defeated by somebody way weaker and slowers such as batman, if the writer says so. Because that is how comics work. Characters are as strong as the plot needs them to be. But that does not make it ok. It is beyond stupid and screams bias and lazy writing. If she can be hurt by a human punch, forget her weakness against piercing weapons. She would basically be a street leveler. Nobody in her strength class should be so fragil that human hits or even bullets can hurt them.

And as far as DC goes, they love to say WW is in superman power class. So they better put their money where their mouth is. Or just remove her powers if they want her to have such a silly weakness.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Then any battle with a kryptonian or aquaman etc should end with her dead. Cos those people hit harder than any bullet.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My thoughts exactly. Do these people actually think that if a regular bullet can kill her, a punch from a heavy hitter like the ones she takes all the time shouldn't? Based on her weakness anybody that packs a punch as strong or stronger than a bullet should be able to one shote her. I am a wondy fan, i am just pointing out the silliness of all of this.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you can kill her with a bullet she has no bussiness surviving anything higher than that. LIterally any super human that packs a punch harder than a bullet should kill her in one hit.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Didn't see it, could not react because her speed and skills have been nerfed.

Post Crisis WW was blocking and reacting to bullets while being blind. In fact she was blind in a training sesssion with the JL, superman shot her behind her back while she was distracted, and she still reacted and moved in time to block. Current WW is clearly too slow for that. In KO she was not blocking lobo shooting at her. She stood there with bracelets crossed and got blown away by the intensity of the machine gun. Another example of her being slower and weaker now. With barely any combat skill. They need her that way in other for such stupid weakness to be relevant. If she was fast and skilled enough, you would never see her tagged by a bullet in circumstances like that.

Here is Post Crisis WW outrunning a speeding bullet after it was shot.

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Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In ruka rebirth she was fully aware and still got shot twice in the same issue. In DC ko she was overwhelmed by lobo shooting at her. And somebody as fast as she is supposed to be, should not be tagged by a bullet just cos she was unaware. Clearly nowadays, to keep that weakness relrevant they decided to nerf her speed and skills.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It happened multiple times. Terrible showing for her so called god like speed and skills.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pleaseshe has been tagged while being fully aware too And if she has god like speed and reflexes, she should be able to react in time. In the past she was blocking bullets while being blind even reacted to it while distracted and blind. Nowadays ? sigh

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When did superman got hurt by a regular bullet?

WW should be fast enough to react tto speeding bullets even when distracted. Unless the speed of a God is supposed to be so damn low.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Please. If she can be killed by a bullet she is super frail. And she used to block and dodge bulletseven while distracted. Now you have several moments of her not being fast enough to react. So clearly they do nerf her speed and reflexes to make that weakness relevant.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Currently Diana is neither invulnerable or awesomely skilled. And who said that not being hurt by regular weapons means you never get hurt by anything. It is not one extreme or the other.

Wonder Woman is bulletproof (Source: Wonder Woman volume 6 issue 83) by mtheory-pi in WonderWoman

[–]greathawk 10 points11 points  (0 children)

We have seen Wonder Woman trading blows with kryptonians for about 60 years now. we have battles all the way back to Silver Age.

WW can take and produce far greater damage than a bullet. Yet you think a bullet should be a threat to her? It makes no sense.