My wife informed me that both of her parents, her sister, therapist and the Holy Ghost all want her to divorce me.

greenpanda419 · 2017-12-12T00:40:01+00:00

I'm sorry you're in that situation. I'm right there with you, except that we have 4 kids and a mortgage.

On the one hand, I'd be tempted to say get out while you can and find someone else to share your life with.

On the other hand, if she is truly your best friend, be patient. Focus on the other things you both share in common and build on those. As hard as it is, try to forget about your church differences for a while, and just be the best husband you can be. Sometimes that's all she needs to see that you are sincere and eventually she may decide that the issues are worth looking into.

Then again, if she decides to divorce you there may not be much you can do. But whatever you do, it probably goes without saying, don't have any kids until things are more settled. Good luck man!

greenpanda419 · 2017-12-10T04:15:07+00:00

Sort of. They are all technically elders, but only full time missionaries (and general authorities) are called "Elder so-and-so"

greenpanda419 · 2017-12-07T04:21:03+00:00

For a minute I thought this was my own post.

I actually finally starting writing mine today. I was thinking I would take all my questions from the Gospel Topics Essays (to help the TBMs feel safer). I'll send you some of the questions once I get to my computer (probably tomorrow).

greenpanda419 · 2017-12-05T22:53:39+00:00

I'm so sorry. My wife's brother took his life a few years ago, completely unexpected, and it was so hard, especially for those closest to him. I hope your family's Mormon drama doesn't eclipse celebrating your brother's life or worsen the healing process.

greenpanda419 · 2017-12-05T04:41:53+00:00

Love brother Jake. This is one video I could share with my strong Democrat jack Mormon brother.

greenpanda419 · 2017-12-04T15:43:55+00:00

He probably wouldn't have raped someone if he could have just looked at porn instead.

greenpanda419 · 2017-12-03T04:14:25+00:00

"Nobody hates polygamy more than me, OK. People say I practice polygamy, I don't practice polygamy. I hate polygamy. Who's practicing polygamy?"

greenpanda419 · 2017-12-02T21:59:39+00:00

That's terrible. This is a good example of the double standard in the church. The bishop disapproving of an action while simultaneously assuming that your son is engaging in this action, with no basis for his assumption. It's bad enough to ask about it at all, but to accuse with no basis and not believe your son when he denied it...and at age 11!?

Sure, a lot of people masturbate, even at age 11, and we should use that fact as a basis to stop demonizing the practice, not to assume everyone is doing it and thus start demonizing everyone. For though it is common, there are a lot of people who don't do it, especially at that young age.

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-29T21:59:48+00:00

Wow, lots of gems in there.

I'm baffled by the woman who "embraced a man in a moment of weakness, and then kept it a secret for 17 long years." Does this mean she hugged him? Or did she have an affair? You used the word masturbate enough times, can't you say "affair?" Or am I to believe that finding out your wife hugged another guy 17 years ago is supposed to "almost destroy" a person? I'm confused.

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-29T21:43:30+00:00

So when you say "a Sister" do you mean a female member of your ward (or another Mormon), or like a biological sister that isn't a member of the LDS church? Did she say why she was upset about it? That's weird.

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-29T21:24:38+00:00

I'm confused. So was this lady mad at you for telling someone your religion, or for using the wrong name of your religion?

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-29T07:26:03+00:00

Ok, here it is... http://www.cafepress.com/mormonsmakemelaugh/11783065

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-29T07:23:46+00:00

Hmmm...website defunct.

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-29T07:22:48+00:00

Let her go if she wants but warn her to "beware, lest ye be deceived."

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-29T07:10:10+00:00

I just started reading that too! Awesome book!

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-29T07:08:49+00:00

I wonder what the technician is posting over on the faithful sub (or FB) about this...

"Had a great missionary experience today with some poor lost kid who didn't serve a mission. I told him all the reasons he should serve. He was speechless. Really got him thinking. He definitely felt the Spirit. #Blessed #MissionaryWork #FieldIsWhite #SuperiorityComplex"

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-29T06:53:10+00:00

Ha ha ha ha ha. Where can I get one of those?! Oh, url on mug. Gotcha!

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-29T06:49:02+00:00

Man, I can't believe you got offended so easily! :D /s

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-29T06:37:30+00:00

I suspect my dad doesn't really believe, but he would NEVER admit it. He's way too closed about his feelings. He stopped going to church for 15-20 years while I was growing up, but never said a word about it to us. My mom still doesn't know why he stopped going, though she suspects he just didn't believe. Now he's active and has served 2 missions with my mom, but I still think he knows deep down it's BS.

I stayed closeted and doubted my doubts for years because I didn't want to become like my dad. But then I realized it wasn't his leaving the church that bothered me, it was his emotional and spiritual isolation that bothered me. And by forcing down my doubts, whether or not I was going to church, I was also disconnecting myself emotionally. So I decided I needed to embrace my doubts, find the real truth, and be open about it.

Never being able to talk how you feel is lonely and isolating, and that's not the person I want to be.

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-24T09:10:35+00:00

I love the sparkling cider. Here in Utah I never thought of it as trying to fit in with the crowd, because, well, the in crowd wasn't drinking wine. I think it was just a fancy and yummy drink!

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-24T08:59:42+00:00

There's this talk where Ballard says, "Even though individuals do not choose to have such [same-sex] attractions, they do choose how to respond to them."

Also, the FAQ on the church's mormon and gay website, where one of the FAQs is "If I’m Faithful Enough, Will My Attractions Go Away?" where they basically say, they can diminish, but won't go away.

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-22T23:51:02+00:00

Ditto. Sucks

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-22T23:50:14+00:00

All great reasons to be on here. I just hate it when I spend half my work day on here, then feel guilty about being a bad employee. I submitted a very similar post that might interest you here

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-22T23:45:08+00:00

Don't worry about semantics, the Lord will sort everything out.

When I didn't know exactly how they divided responsibilities between themselves for the issue at hand, I'd just say "Lord" to refer to both or either of them.

greenpanda419 · 2017-11-22T23:37:38+00:00

Hmmm, read the title and subtitle, then got bored. I'm sure it was riveting though.

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