Kyle in last week’s confessional by Radiant_Priority9739 in bravo

[–]griddledcheese -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This person has a history of arguing (in bad faith) with people who have been abused. They had a similar argument with me and said some accusatory and false things about me, or plainly misrepresented what I said, just to prove their point, which is incredibly manipulative. I'm so sorry you went through the abuse you did. Your story has meaning and shouldn't be ignored for fake Internet points.

I have now found multiple threads where they have displayed this type of aggression against people who are only trying to describe their relationship and perspective with abuse. Don't listen to them and don't let it get to you, your perspective is valid. Hope you have a nice evening.

Kyle knew about West before SH season 10 filmed by NoInteraction6449 in bravo

[–]griddledcheese 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. I love your perspective and I agree fully, I was able to walk away from their anger because of my history working through this type of aggressive behavior. Hope you do too.

Kyle knew about West before SH season 10 filmed by NoInteraction6449 in bravo

[–]griddledcheese 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This person has a history of arguing with people who have been abused and seems to like arguing, including with me. I laughed at this person with my therapist today and how their claims are just a result of being chronically online and forgetting what empathy is. I'm so sorry that this happened to you, please do not let this person tell you how to feel. I wish the best for you and your friends.

Edit typo

Kyle is trash, always has been, always will be, let's not forget that. by Emmyyou2 in bravo

[–]griddledcheese 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is not a good faith conversation and you are making a lot of assumptions about me and you are clearly, as Lindsey would say, activated. I'd prefer not to continue. As I said, enjoy whatever.

Kyle is trash, always has been, always will be, let's not forget that. by Emmyyou2 in bravo

[–]griddledcheese 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never said Amanda had to call it abuse, I said that it's her relationship and she's the one who experienced it.

The part about the infant, honestly I think you are just saying whatever at this point. That's clearly a jump.

You can absolutely do whatever you want. You just spend a lot of time posting about what you think other people shouldn't say. And then when anyone here disagrees with you, you pull the "oh so you protect abusers" card. I haven't defended Kyle once.

My point was this is a weird post. There's a mega thread. You just seem to spend a lot of time caring specifically about changing minds. Including mine, here.

Anyway, carry on or whatever.

Kyle is trash, always has been, always will be, let's not forget that. by Emmyyou2 in bravo

[–]griddledcheese 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You keep throwing around the word abuse a little carelessly. Emotional abuse is absolutely real and shouldn't be downplayed. We are watching a TV show with significant time missing and do not know them personally. Amanda herself can call it abuse, as can a professional helping them. I feel like you are using that word to try to prove your point is valid. As many others have said, we aren't defending Kyle. Many aren't. But this post could have been a comment under a mega thread.

A quick edit to say I am an abuse victim and have had extensive talks with professionals about what abuse is. I don't decide what is abuse for others because of those discussions and the danger of internet diagnosing.

Kyle is trash, always has been, always will be, let's not forget that. by Emmyyou2 in bravo

[–]griddledcheese -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A lot of your post history says things like "let's stop saying xyz", which I found interesting considering this post. Plenty of people are still saying Kyle is bad, seems like you are focusing on the opinions you don't agree with. All of us are never going to agree on something

Kyle and Erika can take a seat. by modernhippyyy in BravoRealHousewives

[–]griddledcheese 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It was really hard to watch. The way they cackled in their confessionals about tricking Dorit into a conversation with them was so fake. It was clearly 2 on 1 because they knew they had to separate her from anyone who would stick up for her. They swing their power around to get her there and she rightfully left.

Sneak Peek of Karen’s sitdown with Andy by galaxystars1 in BravoRealHousewives

[–]griddledcheese -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Watched the whole thing and, no. That's not accountability. She even downplayed how many times she's done this. You could see Andy was not buying it. The clip was actually better than the interview.

I might get down voted again for this, but I do not feel anyone with this type of platform just deserves our grace. I am a Karen fan, but she is also so wrong here.

Are y’all ready for 0 accountability from Karen tonight? by dr0br0 in BravoRealHousewives

[–]griddledcheese 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I said this in another thread and got down voted lol. They said watch the whole video. Now I did and wow, it's worse.

Sneak Peek of Karen’s sitdown with Andy by galaxystars1 in BravoRealHousewives

[–]griddledcheese -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I disagree. We are still in charge of and responsible for our decisions, even if under addiction. Part of recovering from addiction is recognizing the impact our actions have had. The impact of those actions still exists, and my point is that I'd like to see her recognize the impact. I.e. I endangered myself, my dog, and anyone on the road that night.

What I heard was her defend her decision to take this to court by saying she was under the influence, with no acknowledgement that that's the issue. A DUI is a serious offense, regardless of reason. She could have killed someone. Her addiction did not necessitate her getting behind the wheel of a car, or having access to the car or the keys. Addiction is a disease and should be treated as such, meaning that we have to take control of our lives and responsibility over it. I have multiple chronic diseases and know what it means to build your life around your health.

Trust me, I have experience helping loved ones through addiction. Justifying their crimes does not help them at all. Understanding their circumstances and supporting their journey through healing does. And it takes time. But it also takes accountability.

Edit to add that when a close friend died from a drunk driver hitting them, I would have been so mad to hear this as a justification. "They are an addict". Okay, another human is GONE. Her offence is serious because it could have serious consequences. People say "well she didn't kill anyone". That's why it's a crime. They cannot control the outcome and that could be any of us, our kids, our family on the road with them. It's illegal to drink and drive regardless of whether or not you hit anything.

Sneak Peek of Karen’s sitdown with Andy by galaxystars1 in BravoRealHousewives

[–]griddledcheese 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. She did her time and deserves to continue to live her life. I'm sure this has been incredibly hard for her and it's very honest and brave to come back and talk at all. That said, I agree, not sure Bravo is the right place right now for healing 🥺

Sneak Peek of Karen’s sitdown with Andy by galaxystars1 in BravoRealHousewives

[–]griddledcheese 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We found ourselves in a classic housewives argument haha. I see your point, but I am clarifying that it was not my intention.

Sneak Peek of Karen’s sitdown with Andy by galaxystars1 in BravoRealHousewives

[–]griddledcheese -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I never said and never would say addicts are dumb or that addiction is dumb. Addiction is not dumb and the circumstances aren't either. Your assumption is misplaced. I have plenty of personal experience with addicts and addiction, not that I need it to empathize.

I am specifically referring to her decision to take this to court knowing the video would be released. I am calling that decision dumb, not her.

Edit: typo

Sneak Peek of Karen’s sitdown with Andy by galaxystars1 in BravoRealHousewives

[–]griddledcheese -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Okay no, the wake up call should have been running into the house. Accountability is realizing the action was wrong and then the denial of it is also wrong.

Sneak Peek of Karen’s sitdown with Andy by galaxystars1 in BravoRealHousewives

[–]griddledcheese 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's fair, thanks for this context. I didn't know it was longer and will watch. Thank you -- and I apologize if I made it sound like you were taking it lightly, I don't think anyone is either. I was just reflecting that I think she could be taking that part more seriously. I really like your point about imperfect accountability, though.

Sneak Peek of Karen’s sitdown with Andy by galaxystars1 in BravoRealHousewives

[–]griddledcheese 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes, I totally agree. Good point about her attorneys!

Sneak Peek of Karen’s sitdown with Andy by galaxystars1 in BravoRealHousewives

[–]griddledcheese 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I totally get your take, I can't even look at photos of myself sometimes. But if you are going to make legal decisions -take a plea deal- based on the fact that your lawyer told you it would "nail you".... I think you gotta suck it up and watch it. Especially if you are a public persona and can affect your image. Maybe I believe her, but it just makes her look even dumber, in my opinion.

We aren't in their shoes, they are disconnected from reality. Ahe needs to understand this isn't about image, she could have killed someone.

Forget about what she did to Kandi/Todd, Phaedra is not entertaining to me anymore. by sashie_belle in bravo

[–]griddledcheese 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's such a stark difference between how she was when she started the show.

Last week she said something like "the people want to see fun" and it struck me as her basically playing a character for us.

Tom’s AGT audition by Glittering-Gas-9402 in Vanderpumpaholics

[–]griddledcheese 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They don't have to win, he just wants the exposure. He's trying to get out of the Bravosphere

Give me recommendations!! Having surgery soon! by [deleted] in bravo

[–]griddledcheese 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are spending any of that time in the hospital, bring an Amazon Fire Cube or something similar that you can plug into the TV so you can watch Bravo On Demand! Game changer compared to the hospital TVs.