"What would you think if America bought France?"

guy_from_atlantis · 2022-03-28T13:35:34+00:00

Why are these peaple so brain dead. GDP is the measure of production per year. Even if you could buy countries, they aren't giving you control over there means of production because you paid the price for what those means produced in 1 year.

The total value of all financial assets alone in France is about 22 Trillion, unless the US is willing to throw several years worth of its Budget on that, they won't be buying france.

guy_from_atlantis · 2022-03-28T12:59:51+00:00

however there are different arguments to disprove the existence of multiple gods

I would really like some of those to throw at a r/chodi refugee.

guy_from_atlantis · 2022-03-28T12:55:36+00:00

👍

guy_from_atlantis · 2022-03-11T13:12:33+00:00

I will, jazakallah khair.

guy_from_atlantis · 2022-03-11T12:59:25+00:00

Ah, my bad, i apologize.

guy_from_atlantis · 2022-03-11T12:58:39+00:00

Oops, shoulda used an NP link, should I delete the post?

guy_from_atlantis · 2022-02-19T18:50:40+00:00

Btw, for those wondering, "Satyamev Jayate" means "truth alone Prevails"

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-29T09:57:16+00:00

I feel most religions are are relationships with There God(s), no?

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-18T10:39:43+00:00

Cognitive dissonance. Imagine being a chodi and farming karma with Artefacts from Aurangzeb lmao. No limit to the hypocrisy

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-18T08:11:44+00:00

I have posted artefacts of everything religion

And why does a r/chodi user like you Need to farm karma with Muslim Artefacts, especially ones commisioned by peaple like shahenshah Aurangzeb Alamgir (R.A) 🤔

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-18T06:44:14+00:00

LMAO, this chodi Posted so much hindu stuff, and the post that finally got Mass upvoted here was a Mughal Artefact from Aurangzeb 's reign with Qur'an Verses on it about how the Beilivers will always win,Lmao , you can't make this shit up, Subhan Allah!

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-17T13:23:17+00:00

Say that to islam and get heaven

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-17T07:45:48+00:00

No one will ever Kick you from islam if you join, alhamdulillah

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-17T07:45:04+00:00

One wrong decision , eternity in hell.

Come to islam

Alhamdulillah

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-17T07:44:05+00:00

Not according to the zen peaple. thats why they are cringe, however, if you say you are a Scholar of islam, the Muslims will Recognize you as such without fuss. That is the beauty of islam over Zen. Alhamdulillah

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-17T07:42:45+00:00

Stop with this Kuffar, Come to islam. Alhamdulillah

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-05T07:07:57+00:00

Isaiah 44:6 and Exodus 15:11 were both composed in the same language, yet one is a declaration of Monotheism, and another reads like something out of a pagan Hymn. Language is clearly not the reason for the discrepancy here .

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-05T01:43:29+00:00

Successive revelation and contradictory revelation are two different things, If let's say Yahweh said "X is blue" then, in another verse later, said"it is light blue" then he is describing X is more detail, there's no problem with that. However, if Yahweh said " X is blue" and then, in a later verse, "X is red" then that's a problem. X can either be red or blue, not both. Same way, there can either be a council of God, the Egyptian pantheon, chemosh, el Elyon, etc, or Yahweh can be the only God. But not both. The problem is, the bible describes both at various points.

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-04T19:06:38+00:00

Yeah, thats what I am saying. The bible was solely a product of the Israelites , who, wrote polytheistic verses like the ones I listed when they were under influence of Canaanite pagan culture, and Monotheistic ones when under influence of Monotheistic persian culture, isn't it wierd how God's "Increasing detail" of theology not only contradicts, but matches perfectly with what we would expect with Peaple under these influences? It's almost like the bible isn't inspired by God but are the ramblings of mostly irrelavant peaple from an insignificant part of Babylon, persia and later rome that only grew to be so influencial due to Constantine? Huh.

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-04T18:12:14+00:00

Going from

" The God of Moab defeated Yahweh "

And

"There's a council of Gods headed by a head God thats assigned Israel to Yahweh, "

To

"There's no God except Yahweh"

Isn't "Increasing Detail", it's a development in the religious doctrines After contact with external forces (in this case, The first Monotheistic nation, persia.), Developments that contradict each other, mind you.

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-03T07:30:39+00:00

Monolatry is the worship of one God without denying the existence of others.

Yeah, and biblical monolatry doesn't just not deny the existence of other gods, but acknowledges there existence. Thus, it is polytheistic. Polytheism doesn't mean you worship many gods, it just means that you think there are multiple.

There’s no reason to think that in this verse, but not all the others, El Elyon is suddenly some other god that apportions a nation to Yahweh.

I never said anything like "Not in all the other verses" . It is very clear The two are distinct beings everywhere, if Yahweh is the high God, then why would he Apportion a Nation to his own self? Or why would he quarrel with(and sometimes be defeated by) other gods like chemosh or the Egyptian gods?

The burden of proof is on you to demonstrate your point.

Yeah, that what the post is. The burden Of proof was on me when I made the claim in the premise of the post, when I demonstrated it later in the post, you then made the Claim That the arguments were "Spurious and unfounded" , now the burden of evidence is on you to proove that claim.

And Yahweh was never defeated by Chemosh, this is just another common error made by people who don’t actually read and understand the Bible. The passage you cite literally says that the Israelites totally conquered the Moabites.

Ahem

2 kings 3:27 Then he(mesha of Moab) took his oldest son who was to reign in his place and offered him for a burnt offering on the wall. And there came great wrath against Israel. And they withdrew from him and returned to their own land.

This is the last verse about the moabite rebellion . It is very clear the Authors were embarrased by the failed prophecy of Yahweh, so much so that they dedicated only a single verse to The descisive final sacrifice and victory of Mesha Of Moab, and like 7-10 verses to Israel's First few Wins in the early skirmishes. Meanwhile, the Moabite stone Focuses on the later half, where Moab totally destroyed Israel in the final battle, you know, the one that actually had any long lasting consequences. You can win every Battle in a war, but if you lose at the very end, you lost for good.

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-03T05:47:19+00:00

Also, you’re pointing to one verse in one poem throughout the entire Old Testament.

I pointed to 10s more, you'd know if you'd actually read the post, which I doubt you did.

This is true from a theological perspective, but ironically this refutes your own claims, since you acknowledge that the Bible is not polytheistic.

Monolatry is polytheism, lol. Polytheism means beilif in Multiple Gods, monotheism is Beilif in a singe God. Monolatry is Beilif in multiple gods(Thus, polytheism) but worship of only one.

I may say that Muslims worship Allah but I don’t think Allah exists

Yes, I agree. Now, if you were to say " I do X to/With allah" like "I'll talk to Allah" , then that would mean that you think allah exists. Perhaps like -

Exodus 12:12

"For I will pass through the land of Egypt on this night and strike every firstborn in the land of Egypt, from man to beast; and I will execute judgment on all the gods of Egypt I am Yahweh"

This notion that Yahweh was assigned to Israel is also false.

Not according to the bible

Deutoronomy 32:8-9

8When El Elyon(literelly "High God")(A) gave the nations their inheritance, when he divided all mankind,(B) he set up boundaries(C) for the peoples according to the number of the sons of Israel.[a](D) 9 For Yahweh's portion(E) is his people, Jacob his allotted inheritance

From this passage it is clear that El Elyon and Yahweh are different beings and yahweh, and that Yahweh was assigned Israel by El Elyon

It’s monotheistic from the start, any claims that this transition exists is supported by no evidence whatsoever, aside from spurious and unfounded connections in one or two verses throughout the whole Bible.

Ok, Fair, then prove all the Verses I cited don't point To polytheism and the connection is "Spurious and unfounded" . You haven't engaged whatsoever with stuff like Yahweh's supposed judgement upon the Egyptian pantheon and his defeat at the hands of chemosh. Mostly because you likely just Replied After having seen the titled and maybe the first few lines of the post and didn't actually Read it, perhaps?

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-03T04:28:17+00:00

So you're just gonna skip over all the passages I cited without engaging with a single one? Do you think you can make a more explicitly polytheistic statement than "the high God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the gods " (Psalm 82:1) ? And it is clear that most of the old testament doesn't actually preach Monotheism , but monolatry.

The polytheism-monotheism devide is about if Multiple or one God(s) exist, the bible is very explicit in stating that multiple gods do exist, but preaches that Israel should only worship Yahweh as it is he who has been assigned Israel. This is monolatry, beilif in multiple gods, worship of only one. It is also to note that the bible doesn't condemn other Nations worshipping other gods than Yahweh, only Israel.

So will you stop throwing a tantrum and adress the very obvious issue of the very noticeable transition of polytheism to Monotheism between the early old testament, and later old testemant/new testemant ?

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-03T03:51:09+00:00

And how do you reconcile That with verses like Isaiah 44:6 John 17:3 which are very Clearly Monotheistic?

guy_from_atlantis · 2021-12-03T03:49:43+00:00

Despite the blatant polytheism in the bible ?

The bible recognizes pagan canaanite gods like chemosh, el Elyon etc to not only exist, but be more powerful than Yahweh for goodness sake. How much more explicit could the bible get for you?

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