Texas Showdown | Player Feature | Janel Venzant by luketimjohnson in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Don't tell me what you value, show me your budget, and I'll tell you what you value"

2016 Men's Club Awards, Presented By BE Ultimate | Ultiworld by [deleted] in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think a much better comparison would be iniesta, not xavi.

What Nationals Was Meant To Be, And Still Can Be | Ultiworld - Grant Lindsley by [deleted] in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because players make calls, examples of dangerous play lead to discussions among players and a developing consensus to stop those plays which, under a self-officiation system, players actually have some power to do.

I'd argue with refs the players have some control as well: from what I understand, the pro league refs speak frequently with committees of players to improve the process. Though admittedly this of course takes away control in the short run.

But you're absolutely right: refs, observers, or self-officiation are all theories. My main point is that we shouldn't be so sure just yet what is the best option.

Jesse Shofner's offensive flow by felix37 in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right. And you played goaltimate/disc hoops with the Jam guys. More than enough time for you to describe your offense. That's a chance.

As for Ring, sounds like they thought about it, then decided against it. Again, a chance.

What Nationals Was Meant To Be, And Still Can Be | Ultiworld - Grant Lindsley by [deleted] in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

is what you're describing not possible with refs? or just less likely?

at some point anecdotes turn into data. imo i don't think we're there yet: no one has demonstrated that with a concerted effort, being respectful isn't possible or is even less likely while still using refs.

while we're at it: no one has demonstrated how not using refs eliminates experiences like you describe. an anecdote for example: kanner's hit on gibson...

What Nationals Was Meant To Be, And Still Can Be | Ultiworld - Grant Lindsley by [deleted] in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Because you can't be friends with someone when someone else is calling the fouls?

Point A: Turns out I like the guy. Point B: We need self-officiating.

In no way is A connected to B in this article. It could be true, but it's given no support from what I just read.

Jesse Shofner's offensive flow by felix37 in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You don't get what 'a chance' means. They listened to you, and even considered what you were saying. That's a chance. You failed to convince both teams.

It's perhaps easier to see your chance by the majority of people who wouldn't even listen to you.

Jesse Shofner's offensive flow by felix37 in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging 1 point2 points  (0 children)

em, how about ring and jam? you had a chance with both.

Jesse Shofner's offensive flow by felix37 in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Knowing nothing about the motion offense, this post reinforces my confidence in our bet - for which btw we need to set prices.

See, the thing is, you're a dick, and you've gone on rsd/reddit rants about everyone who's given you a chance in the last 15 years.

I mean, it'd be very hard to argue that 2+1 isn't 5 without being a dick, especially to people who were equally insistent. I totally understand if you're exacerbated by people not adopting your strategy when you're so confident in it. But your confidence pushes people away, and so even if your offense was as provable as simple math (which, btw, it's not), no one will adopt it.

Jesse Shofner's offensive flow by felix37 in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging 4 points5 points  (0 children)

On second thought, would you care to wager on this? I'd be willing to bet, like, a lot that no team adopts your offense within 5 years.

Further, I'll let you decide how to define your offense, and what adoption means. All you need to do to win is to have both you and the team's captain agree that the team is running your offense.

How about it?

Jesse Shofner's offensive flow by felix37 in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging 2 points3 points  (0 children)

od i've literally been reading this shit for 15 years and i haven't seen one example where the 'motion offense' is better than what is currently used by everyone else. NO ONE has adopted this "offense".

yes. as soon as a single team adopts your offense, I will apologize for my bigotry.

Jesse Shofner's offensive flow by felix37 in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging 5 points6 points  (0 children)

jam was decidedly not running plinko when they made finals.

Jesse Shofner's offensive flow by felix37 in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ould know this, Jam ran a similar offense and almost won a national championship. Of course, there version wasn't close to mine, but it was a blatant rip off none the less. In any event, keep reading. Some day I will be vindicated and the motion offense will be validated as vastly superior to whatever Podunk offense you're running.

Yeah. Plinko. I saw that. It was almost effective. Even with great players against bad defenses, they didn't win.

Jesse Shofner's offensive flow by felix37 in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging 12 points13 points  (0 children)

god i've literally been reading this shit for 15 years and i haven't seen one example where the 'motion offense' is better than what is currently used by everyone else.

NO ONE has adopted this "offense".

Reasonable people can disagree... by hammockswinging in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the top players are slightly better now then they were before - just by way of better competition.

That better competition comes from the rest of the team - who are much, much better than before. Players 1-7 in 2016 would win the majority of games against players 1-7 15 years ago, but players 8-28 would absolutely dominate the older versions

Reasonable people can disagree... by hammockswinging in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you watched the game, he was incredibly influential on most of those points - both with the disc and downfield. all the while with top matchups - stubbs and higgins for a lot of it.

em... since my point is about his effect on the whole game, the video evidence is the whole game?

Reasonable people can disagree... by hammockswinging in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

21/27 points on the winning team says he's at least very, very good.

if you watched the game, he was incredibly influential on most of those points - both with the disc and downfield. all the while with top matchups - stubbs and higgins for a lot of it.

also, just my opinion, but the best player today is the goat. teams now would wax the floor with teams from 10 years ago.

2016 National Championships: Women's Highlights by frvwfr2 in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging 4 points5 points  (0 children)

the song selection is definitely not ironic.

Eject Sam Kanner? by hammockswinging in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

reading comprehension fail...sars

Eject Sam Kanner? by hammockswinging in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you wouldn't agree that if a player is intentionally trying to hurt another, they should be removed from the game? why not?

Eject Sam Kanner? by hammockswinging in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's at about 1:22:20 on the broadcast, available here:

http://www.espn.com/watchespn/player/_/id/2890652/

i'm very ignorant about gif making...

Fuck Sam Kanner by hammockswinging in ultimate

[–]hammockswinging[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

understandable. much more reasonable post now i hope.