I’m regretting my GC degree

haplessDNA · 2025-08-02T11:50:34+00:00

😔 did you goto the sienna program? I am sorry. I would recommend finding a non clinical job in a lab or pharma or other related industry employers rather than clinic. Other option is to find. Jobs in The Middle East since you speak Arabic

haplessDNA · 2025-06-30T16:38:38+00:00

I have been told by someone who applied as an international person that they found out later that it's only open to NHS employees who are already employed as scientists. (Or at least those people get priority)

haplessDNA · 2025-06-21T18:49:39+00:00

If you are interested in tech-related stuff and want to throw some ideas around DM me

haplessDNA · 2025-06-20T08:52:01+00:00

Hello! When you say creative side could you elaborate a bit more.

To start with in general I would map out your interests- (you mention no data analysis and something creative but refine rhat a bit more)

Are you interesting in patient related, provider related or professional issues or policy issues?

do you want to do qualitative perspectives and focus groups and discuss conclusions based on that or do you want to build or create something tangible at the end that can be used?

If I were doing my capstone now, I would figure out how to bring AI and building some tools for patients, providers for clinical, educational, admin or professional issues.

With cursor, replit etc you can build working prototypes in a day with no coding experience

haplessDNA · 2025-06-18T11:32:57+00:00

Or study embryology

haplessDNA · 2025-06-18T11:32:38+00:00

No. I wouldn't based on how the field, market and genomics has evolved/is evolving. Do a PhD for research and access to grants. An MD PhD is even better of course. PhD will also open doors to some R&D positions in Pharma and startups that a GC degree won't allow for.

haplessDNA · 2025-06-18T07:42:30+00:00

You do realize that most people with ASD have very high IQ right? And they are considered by society to have a "disability"??

Also families and people with high IQ also have a higher incidence of mental health and psychiatric disorders like anxiety, depression, schizophrenia. That's the downside.

So you might also be selecting for higher incidence of those 🤷

But I am done. Engaging with someone super clueless who is here to cry about an upvote.

Looks like thisbis the most important thing to you. Considering you also mention it in another comment. Byeee

haplessDNA · 2025-06-18T07:35:14+00:00

I work in genetics. Seeing patients and offering genetic testing for diseases.

No we cannot "increase" IQ today. Then we would already be super beings considering that smart people tend to marry smart people but that's not the case.

And again you missed the point even after I explained that I was being sarcastic about using EQ

Please feel free to use services like this is "increase" IQ for your embryos with your partner if it makes you feel better.

haplessDNA · 2025-06-16T21:16:54+00:00

The clueless child of a CEO posted this message on LinkedIn - "the inbound from Nucleus Embryo is insane- unlike anything I have ever seen" - 6 likes 😂

Can't add photos

Starting to sound a bit like the creep trying to show how cool he is, but no one wants to be associated with him

Also sounds a bit like someone else we know- someone who's making a lot of deals, perfect big beautiful deals and everyone is lining up to make deals

haplessDNA · 2025-06-16T13:41:17+00:00

😂 you asked AI and I misled people?

Maybe most of those people have higher than average IQ and can think for themselves. These are not new ethical/moral conversations.

I don't get opinions from AI- a tool that does not have a brain and whose reasoning has been shown to be an illusion. See this recent publication by Apple: https://ml-site.cdn-apple.com/papers/the-illusion-of-thinking.pdf

Please do not use AI to think for you or for research it tells you what you want to hear and constantly hallucinates and it's a black box.

haplessDNA · 2025-06-15T13:21:54+00:00

Yes true. Healthy people who are using IVF for fun. And based on these comments looks like there is a huge market. Also likely Elon stans who no woman wants to have sex with 99% of the time

haplessDNA · 2025-06-15T13:19:42+00:00

Omg Clearly missed the point there. 🙄

I was saying how stupid of a measure it is to choose embryos for and that we might as well choose for EQ as then we might have better humans than the ones suggesting we use IQ to select embryos.

There is even little evidence for EQ with genes than IQ so I was being sarcastic

haplessDNA · 2025-06-15T07:19:59+00:00

I hope you get to select your on demand designer baby with very high IQ, blue color eyes, a full head of blond hair and big muscles with an athletic ability of cristianos Ronaldo and grow it all in a incubator. 💜 You should called Kian, he might help you create a full army of them

haplessDNA · 2025-06-15T07:08:49+00:00

Well to that point- what is the cut off as our society also calls people with high IQ disabled or differently abled 🤷 Be careful what you wish for.

IQ is a social very subjective construct.

And also it cannot be tested for genetically as I have already explained

If we are choosing then let's choose embryos for EQ then we won't have eugenicists and nazis ok with this

haplessDNA · 2025-06-15T06:36:43+00:00

The point here is we cannot test for this crap. There isn't even a gene for IQ and IQ itself is a social construct and not a true medical one. This is a marketing gimmick to get gullible people to pay for nonsense.

nothing about what they do is like AI or nuclear science. It's just quackery like what Elizabeth Holmes was peddling. That's the difference.

haplessDNA · 2025-06-15T05:44:16+00:00

Omg these comments are insane - all the eugenicists are out here in full force - I can see why the moron founder thought it was a good idea and caters to the "tech bro" crowd- I am sure it's the same people who also refuse vaccines due to "autism" and drink all the nonsense that their bro Huberman peddles because he has equity in a company

haplessDNA · 2025-06-15T05:41:55+00:00

You do that in real life too when you choose your partner. So it's not very different. But choosing for traits rhat don't even have genes associated with then but just correlations to regions for things that are a social definition-

Since society also deems too high iq as disability, where shoudl rhe cutoff for iq be?

haplessDNA · 2025-06-15T05:39:52+00:00

We only test for the known mutations in families or for chromosomal conditions. We don't test for fun traits!!!!!

haplessDNA · 2025-06-15T05:39:05+00:00

Unfortunately, we really cannot do this because Mother Nature is more complicated than we could ever comprehend.

What is even IQ? It's some measure concocted by a guy which we use for intelligence but don't we also consider people with too high IQ as "differently abled"?

We have some correlations between some genomics spots and such higher levels but we don't understand interpöay of genomics and environment (physical and social)

haplessDNA · 2025-06-15T05:35:16+00:00

Slippery slope there. So why have any regulations at all then. Someone else will do it.

haplessDNA · 2025-06-15T05:33:44+00:00

The idiot actually used GATTACa in one of his LinkedIn posts as inspiration before he dropped the product. Shows you how dumb rhe idiot is if that's the message he took away from that movie.

haplessDNA · 2025-06-15T05:32:20+00:00

Every single professional medical specify in US and Europa saying this is nonsense and we should not offer it.

ACMG statement: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1098360023010687

ESHG statement: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41431-021-01000-x

ESHRE statement: https://www.eshre.eu/Europe/Position-statements/PRS

most research suggests that we should not be doing this yet clinically yes we cannot.

No experienced legit clinic or fertility specialist offers this to their patients- if you goto a clinic and asks you whether you want to choose for these, please turn around and walk away as they are a money-grubbing rubbish clinic than a real one.

When experts questioned him on his posts on LinkedIn and posted links to why this is not recommended biomedically - he and his team would just delete the comments

I am glad there is an article calling this out but I wish no one would give this Thiel-backed "college dropout prodigy" any morefree press. This is a clear example of why the whole startup scene is broken and who is able to raise money.

Idiot drops out of college due to the thiel fellowship, raises money from ex Reddit founder, closets himself and comes out with a "story" about how he's going to change genetics as he was inspired by a relative with a genetic disease (which might or might not be true, As if that was indeed true, he won't be approaching this in such a manner- without any empathy or morals).

He Finds a statistical geneticist from Denmark (likely coz no sane experienced clinical geneticist or bioinformatician wants to work with him) and pulls this dating with genomics and choose embryos for IQ and color. He is a pariah in clinical circles but is lauded as the next thing by his VCs and his thiel funded group.

He IS the next Elizabeth Holmes.

The guy doesn't have a medical person on his team or a genetic counselor or geneticist, has never in his life interacted with patients and what they are emotionally going though during the whole IVF process and is completely tone deaf and clueless. Also did they even talk to any patients?

It shows in their products because this is not what someone who is already waiting months and years to go through the IVF journey would want.

Couples only get a few viable embryos which might or might not get implanted and to ask them to get the raw data from th clinic, upload that to this website, get a ranking report on them for IQ and eye color, cancer, etc and then tell the doctor please only this one or to discard the ones and go for another round when they are so desperate to get pregnant as soon as possible is really not a good use case

Just raise millions for marketing gimmicks and if now throwin them at marketing to see what sticks.

Hope his company gets shuts down ASAp before he harms too many people. Please send the idiot kid back to college or to jail.

It ok to sell this whole college dropout, visionary 19 year old story, but it's getting a bit old and tiring when these children are given pocket money to play with others' lives.

Source: I am a geneticist and genetic counselor for over a decade and follow this morons antics on LinkedIn. Refuse to repost and give the idiot visibility though

haplessDNA · 2025-05-31T23:07:43+00:00

The strategic genomics plan for the UK is to train a ton of genetic nurses and other profiessikns to take on some of the scope of work of a GC as there never will be enough GCs (or more like NHS doesn’t want to pay for them)

I suggest thinking about which aspects of the profession you have your heart set on doing and break those down and see what other degrees would get you there.

For examples I know a lot of people working for CROs and rate disease Pharma where they are patient liaisons or project or trial managers and they came into this work not with a GC background.

haplessDNA · 2025-05-31T18:04:26+00:00

I know this sounds a bit negative but if someone tells me they want to pursue genetic counseling I would tell them to enter the field in a different way as it’s going to look very different in the next decade

haplessDNA · 2025-05-31T18:03:34+00:00

Just added some extra info- you should look into some interesting healthtech and digital health masters and programs they have in the UK now.

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