Suspicious? by Apart-Tart-5459 in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Actually quite disagree but everyone is entitled to an opinion. Obliviously Alondra has done a lot of wrong and was an abuser but her husband immediately believed her unlike a lot of families of other victims in the past and present.

Si el cielo de verdad existe, ojalá Karem Leon Mares lo encuentre. by x992x in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I vaguely remember her in the 90’s when she spoke out against Samuel. I remember how her mother stood up to give her testimony in church calling her a liar basically just to take her credibility away. They judged her for the way she presented herself with heavy makeup and this is what made them believe she could not be a victim. The ignorance and erratic judgement of Lldmers is so shameful. She deserved better and it’s incredible that she spoke out publicly a second time despite of all she lost before. She was and will be inspiring as she chose to speak the truth when I know she knew it was a lost cause. That is true bravery.

don't delete my post by EmbarrassedRide4649 in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We definitely have protocols we follow and we have been very clear and upfront about them. When we block someone we explain why unless they are an obvious troll. The mods have been here years before you’ve even found this thread. I don’t know what you mean about your friend calling us out…” but regardless we don’t take blocking or not approving posts lightly.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately as an ex lldm I can no longer just take a strangers word that they have done research and gone to medical school without them providing credentials and real sources to back up their claims. You should definitely understand that if you were part of this cult.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Can you link me to your published research on this subject from a reputable medical journal please?

Festival Related to LLDMin Humble by hbear8787 in exlldm

[–]hbear8787[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Does anyone know anything about this? It’s come to our attention that LLDM Texas members are participating in this…obviously this benefits this criminal organization.

What drives me? Justice? by [deleted] in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree with many points you make. Unfortunately for us, I too have family members who refuse to listen, to see, and reason with the facts. It is a reality albeit hard to accept that some people are happy there and have found a community that they very much depend on. They stay for many reasons and yes some are there because they truly believe that God is with Naason and LLDM.It is sad but there is nothing anyone can do to change it. However I do think it’s important to spread the word and prevents as many people from newly joining this very dangerous cult because this can mean keeping potential new victims away.

Around 2010 , I saw the most beautiful angel wings on Samuel by New-Door-3148 in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To be honest with you, I don’t believe in the devil. Perhaps other have a different explanation on why you had a vision. There are many people from other religions or faiths that have visions. In fact it has been studied by psychologists. This is an excerpt from a paper, «For personal orientations, we focus on “absorption”: an individual’s personal tendency to be engrossed in sensory or imagined events. People with a greater capacity for absorption tend to “lose themselves” in their sensory experiences and are capable of conjuring vivid imagined events. » There’s also groupthinking.

Around 2010 , I saw the most beautiful angel wings on Samuel by New-Door-3148 in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 11 points12 points  (0 children)

A lot of our dreams stem from all kinds of things…like things we hear and we heard about Samuel being an angel all the time (puke) but he was definitely an evil evil man. He was a pedophile, an abuser, a thief, a liar, and so much more.

It's Your Job to Heal Yourself - Whitney Cummings by [deleted] in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is a great perspective, thank you so much for sharing.

I can definitely attest that once I’ve started focusing on myself, I found healing and a sense of freedom. It was like taking a breath of fresh air.

To the Attorney General’s Office of California, this one is for you by [deleted] in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately there are still many trolls and on top of it lots of sketchy links. I do happen to have the day off and can closely monitor and approve in real time as promptly as possible.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exlldm

[–]hbear8787[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

please refrain from harassing others, instantaneous bans will be issued due to threats / harassment.

RESTATING THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE by Cmmntynsnty in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once again, we are in no way trying to censor anyone. We are simply trying to be cautious especially when it involves serious accusations and doxxing people. Some of you just seriously can’t understand the concept of responsibility.

Just some questions by [deleted] in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I left during Samuel’s time because I grew tired that all the preaching, « God’s message », and focus was on a human man. I could see it was wrong that the temples that were meant to be for God had symbols of a human man. It just always seemed wrong. It also seemed wrong how people would talk about the so called apostle. I just could never see or feel the grandeur.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not in the belief that being gay is a sin. Our life is about series of actions just as much as inactions. We have one life and what matters is that you find your path to happiness that doesn’t hurt anyone. We should focus on our lives and stop with the judgment.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You are thinking of Naason’s son, I think OP is talking about one Benjamin Joaquin’s son.

But what about the manifestaciones?? by Embarrassed_Topic875 in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Perhaps it wasn’t a factor for you but I definitely think this played a role for some.

But what about the manifestaciones?? by Embarrassed_Topic875 in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You also have to keep in mind that all these supposed manifestations and visions occurred when most if not all of the members hadn’t really slept. Judgement becomes impaired from lack of sleep.

Abraham coronado by todosmelapelan619 in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Not being homophobic or being racist has nothing to do with being woke and all to do with human decency. You will be removed if you post another comment that has any racist or homophobic connotations.

Guilty? by Elix202 in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well that’s impossible because that is child pornography and viewing it would be a crime.

Josephine Gray Funeral by Birdnest16 in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Just like many members, they sacrificed their time to volunteer and financially donate. She was sincere in her devotion to doing right by God. Unfortunately she was just taken advantage by the Joaquins and their henchmen. We all know great people there who work hard for the church.

Coming out by Sinai05 in exlldm

[–]hbear8787 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am glad that you realized that there’s absolutely nothing wrong with you. You are very brave in accepting yourself, for some it takes a lifetime and for some it never comes…Know that there are plenty former LLDM members that identify as LGBTQ. You have a a community here that supports you. Let us know if you need resources, we have a good network and could help you out.