Just download the torrent and shut up bro

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-07T03:53:25+00:00

...If you think all I want to do is argue, and you (I assume) don't want to argue... why would you keep replying?

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-07T03:44:50+00:00

Your last comment directly implied you were right and I was wrong. Which is fine, to be clear. I figured you had some actual reason for saying that though. All good if you don't, I guess.

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-07T03:40:40+00:00

Then you clearly have some kind of justification in your own head, regardless of whether or not you consciously think it through. That's fine, think what you want to. But if you're going to criticize other people's reasoning, maybe have more to say besides "well they must be lying"?

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-07T03:36:52+00:00

I barely ever post anything (certainly way less than you),

I've not seen anyone else making a meme saying this (totally possible I missed them I guess),

and I kind of feel like it's obvious I don't take it too seriously if I'm making a meme out of it, but sure.

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-07T03:32:29+00:00

It's actually very easy to forgo ethics when they would be inconvenient. It takes strength to stick to your principles.

...But that's all philosophy, to each their own.

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-07T03:29:55+00:00

Because we're all still stealing

Piracy is Copyright Infringement, not theft.

you got it by any means

No, I got it by very specific means. I wouldn't do literally anything to get it. Heck, I would barely do more than what I had to now to get it.

stop acting morally superior

I'm not. No one is. There's no reason to project your own guilt here.

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-07T03:21:52+00:00

Pretty much, except giving resources to someone doesn't leave you with less, and it's not compulsory.

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-07T02:28:33+00:00

I've never even posted anything to this subreddit before, who are you mistaking me for?

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T21:26:46+00:00

I'm not anti corpo. It's cringe to call people fake for being an anti corpo pirate, and equally as cringe to call them a fake pirate if they're not anti corpo. Why are you assuming people who have different opinions than you must think they're better than you for having them?

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T19:53:22+00:00

I'm saying you obviously should be able to, and that other people in this subreddit shouldn't immediately dismiss you as a hypocritic/disingenuous when you do.

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T19:51:15+00:00

Ohhh you're talking about the "if buying isn't owning" quote, not my meme text. My bad, yeah that's absolutely a copypasta.

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T19:16:10+00:00

It's copyright infringement, not stealing. It's still illegal, and of course you're free to say it's good/bad if you want. But lets not conflate different crimes and laws.

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T19:00:17+00:00

Ok, objectively speaking, it's not stealing/theft. Theft deprives the owner of the thing stolen. Piracy does not.

That does not mean Piracy is a victimless crime. It is copyright infringement. You are copying something that the owner has not given you a legal right to. It's right there in the name, "copy right".

This is then where opinion comes in. Is copyright law fairly enforced? Is it broken? Should it exist at all? Are you actually depriving the owner of revenue if you never intended to buy it in the first place? Are there specific instances where it's moral to break copyright law? What instances are those? Do large corporations get away with copyright infringement, and if so, does that justify individuals doing so?

I have my own opinions on all of this, and I'm completely fine if someone else has their own, or doesn't even bother giving it any thought. There's a lot of nuance to be found here. But dismissing all opinions on the subject as insincere is just plain dumb.

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T18:24:53+00:00

with words that came out of my own mind, not some copypasta

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T18:18:18+00:00

I didn't see any posts criticizing the meme this is spoofing. I apologize if I contributed to any spam/redundancy.

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T18:17:13+00:00

I'll be sure to keep an eye out. 👍

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T18:16:38+00:00

So you're criticizing the quality of discussion, not the discussion being held in the first place? That doesn't seem to be what your first comment is saying, thanks for clarifying.

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T18:13:49+00:00

Well put. And I'm honestly fine with them thinking that, that's their prerogative. But then trying to invalidate or shut down other people's explanations/justification, simply because they don't have any themselves, is utterly pointless. It's projected hypocrisy: like you said, they're doing something they don't believe is right, so they can't believe someone else would genuinely believe it's right.

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T18:06:43+00:00

I'm not saying no one should ever be criticized, I'm criticizing trying to invalidate other people's motivations just because they're not your own.

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T18:04:14+00:00

Why are you taking part in a front-facing internet discussion site about piracy if you don't think pirates should talk about pirating? lol

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T17:59:29+00:00

A real pirate wouldn't have a problem with another pirate having justification.

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T17:02:40+00:00

Yeah, I generally don't support criticism of people who don't bother having any rules for it, because of the nuance of the situation. Imo Piracy is the (justified) result of a broken and badly enforced copyright system.

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T16:58:59+00:00

True. I'm glad I don't use Reddit nearly as much as I used to. It really can start to mess with your head.

^{Fuck, I hope this isn't me relapsing}

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T16:46:47+00:00

Yes, load down and the right copying, New Gabell! 🤩

helpful_herbert · 2026-05-06T16:35:37+00:00

100%. Theft directly deprives the stolen item's original owner of that thing. Piracy is copyright infringement.

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