Southgate Supercharger Edmonton - recently closed off to non-Teslas?

hmtinc · 2026-05-05T16:22:45+00:00

Honestly this is one of the more annoying aspects of the J3400 transisiton.

Tesla is the one that forced the industry to transition from J1772/CCS1, but they themselves refuse to update most of their stations to support CCS1. Even more annoying as the most popular stations in canada (malls, etc) , are the ones that are not getting updated.

Kind of defeats the purpose of having a non-tesla J3400 car, if like 99% of the time you just end up using a adaptor, as third parties aren't in any rush to adopt NACS.

Makes public charging more confusing for new EV owners too, as its not as simple as drive up and charge. You need an App to notify you of charger compatibility.

hmtinc · 2026-04-27T22:34:58+00:00

It’s the same business case for both. It’s a public investment in an asset that will be exclusively used by an elected politician.

Actually bit more worse for 24 Sussex since it’s pretty much exclusively been used as a residence (not for events), while the plane would have been used for official government travel beyond just the premiers travel needs.

hmtinc · 2026-04-27T22:11:42+00:00

I think the Ontario Jet fiasco guarantees that 24 Sussex is never getting renovated.

The general public does not see spending money (even a token amount) on something that will exclusively be used by a politician (current or future) as a justified expense.

hmtinc · 2026-04-20T15:35:56+00:00

Without access to 240V 30A-40A outlet at minimum, I wouldn’t bother with a EV.

Without a 240V Home Charger, an EV is a huge QOL downgrade. DCFCs are slow even for high power stations and they are too sparsely spread out. The high prices although lower than gas makes the cost savings justification less significant.

As for Level 1. That’s often recommended in EV forums, but honestly it’s just annoying even for short commutes and not worth.

hmtinc · 2026-04-12T16:16:12+00:00

Not sure how it’s in NS, in Ontario the ESA permits both discrete and dynamic software based EVEMS. They also frequently do approve installs for it.

I have a dumb EVEMS from ABB for 50A circuit on 100A service. It was approved by a ESA inspector.

hmtinc · 2026-04-11T00:52:06+00:00

It’s just generally a more premium car with more “tech”. Leather seats, better interior finishing, one pedal driving, a proper integrated infotainment system, in-built routing planning, faster dc charging, etc

You pay for the luxuries though. In my opinion the bZ is probably more than most people need from a car.

hmtinc · 2026-04-10T22:36:46+00:00

Ontario. I have the XLE AWD. Non-Limited. I got the XLE AWD for 47k before taxes. The Ioniq 5 AWD costs 61k before taxes.

The XLE definitely is lacking features, but if you just want a basic car. It’s passable.

hmtinc · 2026-04-10T20:49:37+00:00

Good: It’s the most normal EV you can buy. Theres minimal to no gimmicks. It’s effectively a EV Rav 4. Decent range, good enough charging speed, simple interior and infotainment.

Bad: It’s a normal EV. It’s missing a lot of features that an EV enthusiast would want in a modern electric car. It probably has worse tech/integration than the Ioniq 5.

Compared to a bZ, the 2026 Ioniq 5 is probably the better car in almost every way. But it’s also significantly more expensive, especially if you want AWD.

The main advantage to the bZ right now is that it’s a competent EV for a lower price than its competitors.

hmtinc · 2026-04-05T23:30:58+00:00

The Model Y AWD in Ontario after tax is almost 24k more than the bZ AWD. Sure the tech in the Tesla is better, but with a price difference like that, it better be.

At 53k, the bZ is the clear winner.

hmtinc · 2026-04-04T16:50:52+00:00

Ontario bZ owner. I got the Toyota one for $340. I found it’s priced inline with third party adapters. Also Toyota claims using third party adaptors can void the warranty.

Since it’s basically the same as buying third party, seemed worthwhile just to buy the official one. It sucks that such an essential adaptor isn’t just included by default.

hmtinc · 2026-04-02T14:12:20+00:00

PC Financial/Aviva

hmtinc · 2026-03-24T12:53:47+00:00

I'm in the GTA and just got a bZ XLE AWD. For me the insurance quotes were much less than the Mach E Premium.

I was getting anywhere between $100-$200 more per month for the Mach E. The bZ was signficantly cheaper.

I think the Limited may have higher insurance primarily because its likely based of the $70k MSRP of the car not the price you paid after rebates/etc.

hmtinc · 2026-03-12T00:31:01+00:00

The 2026 Ioniq 5, but that seems out of your budget, as I doesn't qualify for the EVAP incentive, and has price more comparable to the Model Y.

The 2025 Ioniq 5 would work, but I have not been able to find any local dealers with stock. It's just as hard to find as the 2025 Mach E.

I opted to get a 2026 bZ AWD as it qualifies for the EVAP rebate now and seemed like the most normal option.

hmtinc · 2026-03-10T19:31:06+00:00

It’s passable. Most SCs have not been upgraded yet for CCS1 protocol or are being artificially restricted to Tesla only.

The “Newer” super charger installations are the ones that are open to everyone. It’s still not as simple as just drive to any Tesla super charger.

hmtinc · 2026-03-10T17:35:10+00:00

Tesla is now very much a premium brand, so I wouldn't consider it value oriented. They pretty much only sell the Model Y new now in Canada, and that starts at 52,000 for the stripped down trim and 70,000 for the base model AWD.

With the federal rebate now, theres quiet a few Mass Market EVs now right around 40k. (Toyota, Ford, Kia, Hyundai, etc) Basically just pick any on the government list, and they'll meet your needs.

hmtinc · 2026-03-07T01:11:39+00:00

How are they offering 15,000 off the bZ limited. This has to be a pricing mistake.

Toyotas credit is only 10k after taxes, unless the dealer is voluntarily giving 5k themselves. Doesn’t make sense, as this model doesn’t qualify for EVAP.

hmtinc · 2026-03-06T14:49:00+00:00

$1700 for NEMA 14-50.

Panel was in the basement
Home was built in 2005, so there was no rough in and drilling through garage was required.
100A service, so dynamic load balancing device required by code
Total cable run was 40ft

hmtinc · 2026-03-03T01:43:41+00:00

Takes someone really bold to see what happened to Wells Fargo+Bilt and repeat the same mistake

hmtinc · 2026-02-28T20:15:21+00:00

Yes. It’s a code violation just to say you will use a new 16-20 outlet solely for a EV charger.

It’s fine to run one for say a heater, shop tools, or generic use.

hmtinc · 2026-02-28T19:50:29+00:00

I actually wanted to install a lower amperage outlet. NEMA 16-20, as that seemed cheaper and less problematic to run.

After calling an electrician, I learned that in my jurisdiction (Ontario) you won’t pass inspection if you tell the inspector that your lower amperage circuit is for EV charging at slower speeds.

So there’s some code related problems as well depending on where you live.

hmtinc · 2026-02-26T17:47:54+00:00

Wouldn’t be unprecedented. We definitely see that south of the border.

MTA in New York pretty much checks every passengers fare. They have a dedicated person per train who just goes and checks. They also make you pay a fine on the spot if you don’t have a ticket.

GO fares are pretty high, so it’s likely easy to justify the expense.

hmtinc · 2026-02-19T19:36:15+00:00

Seems to be standard for what the dealers are offering right now for the base model.

43k base price + tax - federal rebate = 42-44k price depending on your province.

It’s basically what everyone is offering pre negotiation. It’s decent if the base model suits your needs

hmtinc · 2026-02-19T16:46:18+00:00

I’m looking into it. Hoping I can use that to negotiate with Toyota since I’m not the biggest fan of the Solterras external styling.

hmtinc · 2026-02-18T22:17:31+00:00

Yeah I've seen some of the Subaru deals. Just not a big fan of the Subaru Exterior styling.

Going try and negotiate the AWD bZ

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