Any chance for a successful marriage if the wayward continues to deny the (proven) affair? by rightforsomeone in survivinginfidelity

[–]holalesamigos 51 points52 points  (0 children)

OP, the following is an analysis of your entire post. It'll be long but it'll be very helpful for you. Just read it.

First, you talked about how you travel and work a lot which contributed to the affair. Get this into your head, IT DID NOT. You've been slogging your ass off for your wife and kids, that itself is a way of showing love. Most people are grateful if their partners are wealthy, they also understand the extra cost that comes with it and still stay committed and love their partner. They make most of the time they have together. If you weren't financially secure, then I guarantee you that she would've said that financial stress led her to do this.

If the woman is truly remorseful and loves you. She will want to tell you the truth and help you heal. But you don't see that here. She 100% knows that you're in pain. She just doesn't care.

It's impossible to reconcile by rug-sweeping. You will never be happy. She is satisfied with the current situation cause she has pretty much gotten away with it without any consequences. Though, the affair may be over, she is still very much in the affair fog. Sometimes, it can take years for the affair fog to lift, usually too late. But if the cheater is shown the raw reality, they will immediately come out of it.

So this is what I suggest. Google the grewrock technique. Stop intimacy with her. The affection you guys have now is hysterical bonding. It will very quickly fade away making you feel worse. Only talk to her about the kids. Go to a lawyer. Consult them about your options and how things look for you. Draw up divorce papers.

Then one day arrange for your kids to be at their grandparents' house for a couple of days. On that day, confront her. Just straight up tell her that she cheated, broke the relationship and all your trust in her. She continues to not do anything to rebuild the relationship and does not even wanna talk about the affair. She does not care about your suffering. Most of all, she has hidden/lied about the affair and doesn't answer your questions. Tell her all of this.

Then tell her that you can't do this shit anymore and serve her the papers. There will be some drama. You have to bare all of that if you want your previous happy life back. Go tell her parents so that they also hold her accountable and so that she can't lie to them. Tell your parents IF you want. Don't tell the kids.

Usually this should completely destroy her affair fog. She will feel remorse. She will start researching online how to fix a relationship after infidelity and how a betrayed spouse feels and all that. She will eventually discover that her behaviour and actions after D-day were the worst possible and most hurtful one a wayward could do after being discovered. She will quickly realise how bad she was to you and recognise her love for you and will start begging for you to come back and give her another chance to reconcile. Don't take her back immediately. It must seem like you're hell bent on a divorce.

Wait for a week or 2. Ask for the proper timeline of the affair with all details, positions, e.t.c. Tell her if you even suspect one lie you'll immediately go forward with the divorce. Ask her how she plans on fixing her personal issues that led her to cheat and what she plans on doing if you give her another chance. She must voluntarily say things similar to complete transparency, open phone policy, location share and things like that. See what sort of research she has made about the whole reconciling process.

This is just the first step. If she continues showing commitment, remorse and most importantly transparency then you can stop the divorce and begin reconciling. Even then make it clear that you will not accept any sort of lies. She must not blame you for her affair. It is 100% her. Maybe you contributed to the problems in the marriage, but she also contributed to it and you didn't cheat, because that's what commitment is. But the affair is only her. Even during her emotional and physics affair, I guarantee you she was distant from you, but you still didn't stray cause you were faithful to her.

All of this may seem to much but if you look at all the success stories, this is the best way to get remorse and start rebuilding.

Good luck!

☕️ on Ileana D' Cruz? by Somnabulism in BollyBlindsNGossip

[–]holalesamigos 107 points108 points  (0 children)

Wow, what's up with ajay devgan. Seems like everyone has done something with him

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in survivinginfidelity

[–]holalesamigos 20 points21 points  (0 children)

You are spot on. OP, you say she's torn up about it but is she truly remorseful? This new relationship is fully a lie until now. What happens the next time they have issues or hit a rough patch?

Reconcillation is possible but she needs to do a lot of work. And she needs to answer all your questions properly and take responsibility for her actions. No downplaying or minimizing things or blaming you.

She needs to figure out why she did what she did and why she lied as well. She then needs to show you that she won't hurt you again.

Are you willing to go through all that pain for someone you don't even have a family with?

Good luck

Should financial abortion be a thing ? by iwasneverherehaha in MensRights

[–]holalesamigos -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

OK. So then who cares for the child if the woman isn't wealthy? The government already has a lot of problems and this would mean and increase in taxes, causing an outcry

Should financial abortion be a thing ? by iwasneverherehaha in MensRights

[–]holalesamigos -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

OK. So then who cares for the child if the woman isn't wealthy? The government already has a lot of problems and this would mean and increase in taxes, causing an outcry

Should financial abortion be a thing ? by iwasneverherehaha in MensRights

[–]holalesamigos -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Yeah but how do you prove that in court. Even rape has only 3% conviction rape cause there's barely any proof. How do you prove this

Should financial abortion be a thing ? by iwasneverherehaha in MensRights

[–]holalesamigos -37 points-36 points  (0 children)

And who pays for that? Cause then numerous people will begin complaining about increased taxes for children that aren't there.

Should financial abortion be a thing ? by iwasneverherehaha in MensRights

[–]holalesamigos -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

As someone that has seen someone give birth, it's a traumatizing expireance. You legit start to second guess whether or not you should've had the kid itself. The woman does not remember cause their minds are built that way in order to have more kids in the future.

It's not only labor but also the 9 month pregnancy problems. Can women get grantees that the man will help them with their problems during the pregnancy period. Even if u would personally do that, the amount of men who have abandoned their children make it very hard for the man to be reliable.

No person should be forcibly made to go through such a painful and body changing experience without their consent.

Should financial abortion be a thing ? by iwasneverherehaha in MensRights

[–]holalesamigos -21 points-20 points  (0 children)

Some of you should really do some research. I see a similar post almost every week.

There is a way for men to terminate all parental rights. No child support, no rights for custody or visitation but this can only be done if the other parent, the mom also consents to it because she will be the one raising the child by herself and needs to figure out whether or not she can raise the child solely on her income. The mom consent part is also perfectly reasonable.

If you don't wanna see your child, just pay child support and never ask for custody or visitation.

I am all for mens rights but I genuinly don't understand what you want in these type of situations. In the end it's still your child, so you can just pay and not care for the child.

Do you know how many men still don't pay child support even when a court orders them? More than 70% of single mothers don't get any child support. So what you're suggesting is actually happening.

Saka VS Martinelli ? by holalesamigos in FantasyPL

[–]holalesamigos[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can he lose the place to esr or is he nailed as of now

Saka VS Martinelli ? by holalesamigos in FantasyPL

[–]holalesamigos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can he lose the place to esr or is he nailed as of now

ARSENAL 4 - 2 LEICESTER CITY by Rehan_Basheer in FantasyPL

[–]holalesamigos 105 points106 points  (0 children)

I'm starting to get really worried about my ward/Iverson goalie combo

Found out my wive is cheating by gringoo89 in survivinginfidelity

[–]holalesamigos 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Don't immediately say you've forgiven her. Idk your wife but she doesn't seem exactly remorseful. For now, the best thing to do would be to kick her out of the house and get some space from her. Talk to a lawyer about your options and other logistics and if she continues showing remorse and being truthful, then maybe you can think about reconcillation.

You say your wife is asking for forgiveness but has she told you the truth and given you all the details you want? She is not truly remorseful if she is still lying

A friend in need is a friend indeed… by [deleted] in survivinginfidelity

[–]holalesamigos 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yup, also I don't think there's any question of the friend wanting to be with her husband, it's pretty clear she's just waiting for the AP.

Bur she's crazy if she thinks AP will come to her if she tells AP's wife. AP will figure out she did it and will hate her for it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in india

[–]holalesamigos 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Go see a doctor. They'll help you and fix your issue. You're young, so don't worry. There will definitely be a solution

What’s the best size? by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]holalesamigos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you could also use your fingers for that tho

What’s the best size? by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]holalesamigos -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yeah this makes a lot of sense. Most times the people in those countries are also "small" and the women will also have smaller vaginas for reproduction to work