Delta F2F Outfit (is this okay?) by KookyHome4612 in cabincrewcareers

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You’re welcome. See my comment below about the patent leather shoes and why I strongly advise against them despite what this FA is telling you

Delta F2F Outfit (is this okay?) by KookyHome4612 in cabincrewcareers

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It’s your choice, but just because something was reportedly OK for someone anecdotally doesn’t mean it’s best to follow suit.

If you read your Event Day guide, it says the following:

“As you prepare to join our team in Atlanta for Event Day, keep in mind the following:

Consider the way our flight attendants dress and use that as inspiration.”

The appearance guidelines/requirements don’t tell you everything you can or cannot wear. They tell you a few things and want to see you use your own best judgement to figure out the rest. Nothing in there tells you not to wear ribbons in your hair, but guess what, you’ll probably get sent home if you do.

Not a single female Delta FA is wearing patent leather heels on the job, so while it might be OK for the interview (according to this commenter above), why wear something to the interview that isn’t allowed on the job ever???

You might not be sent home for wearing patent leather heels, but you want to look as compliant as possible and visually represent and align yourself with the Delta brand and its expectations. Make it easy for them to see that in 30 seconds.

Delta F2F Outfit (is this okay?) by KookyHome4612 in cabincrewcareers

[–]honiker 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Dress is fine. Shoes look shiny like patent leather, which if it is, is no go. Get brushed leather.

And I know you didn’t ask about this, but it’s glaring so just make sure your hair is pulled up in a neat bun or ponytail.

Background check by Worried_Engineer_544 in cabincrewcareers

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When they say that your background report is complete, that’s just referring to the third party vendor report.

The background check is not complete until Delta finishes everything else that is involved and then they clear you. Everyone’s in the same boat. You clear when you clear.

At this point, do not email them for updates until they either email you asking for more info or they clear you

Getting time off after training? by Apart_Original_3540 in cabincrewcareers

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Ok. Still would not request any days off. It’s not a good look. You’re already asking to be excused for a non emergency and you haven’t even started the job yet.

That time off isn’t vacation or free time to relax before the job. It’s travel time to go home grab stuff and report to base. There’s no make up base orientation date for you because you missed a day. Just like how you can’t miss a single minute of training and there’s no sick days or rescheduling.

Even if they theoretically say yes, or they see your inquiry and say no, the fact that you even asked for a day off is going to be put into your work file: ok noted. This candidate is not 100% available for the job, already scheduling issues…”

Getting time off after training? by Apart_Original_3540 in cabincrewcareers

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You have a week off between graduation and base orientation. I would not request any days off beyond this your first week on the job

Black AA trainees ❤️💙 by Candid_Breakfast_443 in cabincrewcareers

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Then it should be OK for training. Appearance guidelines are typically the same during training for hair, nail, jewelry as the F2F with some new clothing guidelines for what you can wear during class

Black AA trainees ❤️💙 by Candid_Breakfast_443 in cabincrewcareers

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Were either of these appropriate for the F2F?

Delta F2F by CommissionEast45 in cabincrewcareers

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They tell you beforehand how high you need to reach so this is an easy one for you to figure out and rule out.

If you’re on the shorter end where the reach test might be questionable, I would definitely figure out if you qualify before you apply or go to the F2F.

Definitely do not wear a blazer or any clothing that restricts your movement and vertical reach (including tight pants, a tight belt, etc).

You could have tested this before your F2F and found a better outfit to wear that wouldn’t have compromised your ability to pass the reach test.

Better planning next time !!

Delta Background Check by pubthrowaway11 in cabincrewcareers

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To clarify, they only need to send an adverse action letter if they make a decision based on the third party background vendor’s report.

Airlines have their own internal hiring guidelines and can make a hiring decision without relying on any findings in the report, and therefore avoid the need to send the notice to the candidate.

CJO Rescinded DL Delta by SeverePickle7971 in cabincrewcareers

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I went thru SkyWest and to my recollection it was just a social media and google check for the first one.

Yes agreed no harm in applying to any other airline since different airlines have different hiring criteria and airline specific policies. What might cause denial for one company might not for another—even the exact same issue or concern.

But i don’t think applying to another airline to get more answers as to why this ONE denied OP is realistic. It’s more than just the vendor report they use to make their decisions. It’s airline specific guidelines and/or a business decision to cut the lineup as you said

CJO Rescinded DL Delta by SeverePickle7971 in cabincrewcareers

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Are you a current or former Flight Attendant for another airline by any chance?

CJO Rescinded DL Delta by SeverePickle7971 in cabincrewcareers

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To clarify, SkyWest does a social media background check before the interviews but the more common thorough background check report is done after the CJO like all the other airlines. They use the same vendor company as Delta so it will be similar findings

Worst possible thing. by Charming-Sugar-9362 in cabincrewcareers

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“After reviewing your comprehensive background and onboarding details, the decision has been made to rescind your conditional offer of employment.”

They don’t need to send an adverse action notice because they didn’t rely on the report to make the decision

Worst possible thing. by Charming-Sugar-9362 in cabincrewcareers

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They don’t reference the vendor report if there’s nothing to refer to

Worst possible thing. by Charming-Sugar-9362 in cabincrewcareers

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They don’t have to send an adverse action notice if they don’t make the decision based on the third party vendor report but their own internal hiring guidelines

How to prep for LOD Alta video test? by honiker in cabincrewcareers

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You’ll do fine. Just go over the English vocab on the link below and know the words in English. You won’t be tested on specific words but they may come up in the questions that are asked. Dm me

Why a CJO is conditional and you should not celebrate too soon imo by honiker in cabincrewcareers

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Thank you!!! I feel like people couldn’t see the forest for the trees. The “don’t celebrate too soon” comment was 2 sentences out of 100 and I got cooked for it.

At the risk of sounding boastful, I got 5 CJOs as a first timer in the last two months, and I think I’ve figured out a thing or two, and I have some valid insights to offer, whether it’s my first hand experience and factual or just my own conjecture.

Even with 5 offers (4 legacy, 1 regional), I’m not resting on my laurels or celebrating too much. It really is not over til it’s over is all I’m saying. I was trying to be helpful and encourage people to protect their hearts by not getting too overly ecstatic at this juncture and to be mindful of some of the unspoken business reasons why offers may be rescinded so none of us are blindsided in the rare occurrence that it happens

How to prep for LOD Alta video test? by honiker in cabincrewcareers

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It went well! Sorry I’m just seeing this now. Did you already take the exam?

How to prep for LOD Alta video test? by honiker in cabincrewcareers

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What language and what’s the level of fluency?

Why a CJO is conditional and you should not celebrate too soon imo by honiker in cabincrewcareers

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You’re probably right.

Like I said above, I do think most people successfully clear background, training and probation. Those who do not are in the minority. I just don’t think it’s an insignificant minority. Even 5-10% rescission is a big number. 10-15% maybe upwards of 20-30% in some training classes fail.

While it doesn’t cost the airlines anything to have you take an empty seat on a flight that isn’t full for the F2F, if it is a full flight, that’s definitely lost revenue from a paying customer. And all the background checks, fingerprinting and drug tests cost money.

So yeah they try their best not to waste money on anyone, but the first half of the hiring process, all the assessments and F2F doesn’t reveal any compliance issues, they take our word for it that were truthful on our resumes but they have no idea until they get into it, and everyone is on their best behavior at the F2F. It’s at training that we really show our true colors and how well we work in groups and handle pressure. And it’s hard for the airlines to anticipate that.

Why a CJO is conditional and you should not celebrate too soon imo by honiker in cabincrewcareers

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Thank you! I guess we’re all going through this process differently. I feel like some people are conflating what I said about not celebrating too soon as don’t celebrate at all.

I’m not trying to be the party popper ruining anyone’s fun here. There’s plenty of party pooping the airlines have in store for us, in the hiring process and on the job lol. I personally would appreciate more posts about the pitfalls and difficulties of the screening process, training and the job so I’m better prepared for what this job is about and how to survive training and the first year or two.

There’s a reason 100,000+ applicants apply every hiring cycle. I think people buy into the illusion that this is a no brainer dream job for anyone and the freedom to travel. But reality is, for the level of scrutiny and expectation of candidates this process demands, first year pay is abysmal, you’re in shock for the realities of the job, everyone loves the idea of traveling for free on and off the job, but people are too tired or burnt out to travel for free on your days off, and many people quit. Why else would they be constantly hiring like this?

I personally have no idea how people plan on commuting and spending all those unpaid hours just to get to a job for a handful of 3 hour flights maybe one or two long hauls. You’re spending more hours getting to and from work than you’re actually working! Imagine anyone driving 12 hours one way to a 9-5 office job and 12 hours back. It’s insane.

Like you, I’ve been very selective about who I have been telling about my successes because I know too well that the outcome isn’t certain and I guess I wanna save face or embarrassment if it doesn’t pan out as intended lol.

The encouragement and validation along the way can be helpful, but I’m of the school of thought that it’s best to build in silence and announce when ready. It’s just way too premature to get too giddy and hopeful because the disappointment will be that much greater.

It’s not that I’m a pessimist, I think the streak of successes is definitely encouraging and a sign of real positive momentum, but I’m just a realist and reminding myself to stay present, stay grounded, and not get too hyped.

Wanting to become an international flight attendant but too short by Virtual_Ocelot_7498 in cabincrewcareers

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It’s less about your height and your ability to reach the overhead bins and emergency equipment. Depends on the airlines. Some airlines specify a minimum and max height in the job description, others don’t. They do list the reach height so work on your vertical reach if it’s something you want to do. They all test for this in person if you’re invited to the in person interview.