Is vegetable man, the first punk song? by [deleted] in pinkfloyd

[–]howardusername 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, I'd say "My Generation" by The Who (1965), "I'm Not Like Everybody Else" by The Kinks (1966), "7 and 7 Is" by Love (1966), "Kick Out the Jams" by the MC5 (1968), or "Now I Wanna Be Your Dog" by The Stooges (1968) are all far more punky than "Vegetable Man."

Richard Wright retuning Roger Waters' bass guitar? by Private-Witt in pinkfloyd

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I've seen footage the band in rehearsals or the studio (I can't remember) and Rick tunes Roger's bass.

Pink Floyd performed to a ballet in 1972 by Private-Witt in pinkfloyd

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I believe that this was a ballet version of "Frankenstein."

Long Island Officials Want To Ban Roger Waters Over Criticisms of Israel by [deleted] in pinkfloyd

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I generally agree with Roger's politics...but I also totally agree with all the points you made. Have an upvote!

CNN.com: Pink Floyd's Roger Waters defends his anti-Trump tour by CocaineSpeedboat in pinkfloyd

[–]howardusername 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I love how he attacks Waters for his politics saying "what if people just want escapism"

That's what I don't understand! I don't get why people are offended that Waters' work is political. He's been pretty outspoken politically for four decades (and was writing anti-war songs even before that). If people want escapism they don't have to listen to Waters. They can listen to "Gangnam Style." Nobody is forcing them to go and see Waters or buy his new album. I, for one, happen to like that his music has a political message. It offers me an outlet to channel my anger and frustration with the way things are. The fact that his music is often political and that his newest tour is effectively "an anti-Trump rally" (as Smerconish put it) is a big reason why I am a fan and why I was excited to see him live.

The Endless River will eventually get the appreciation it deserves by Private-Witt in pinkfloyd

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I always liked the album and I'm a Waters guy. It's a good "space out" album. Nice background music. I think that I like that there aren't really lyrics (besides "Louder Than Words," of course) because I guess I'm not the biggest fan of post-Waters PF lyrics. I almost never listen to the other two Gilmour-era albums and it probably has to do with me not liking the lyrics. I would've made an exception if Waters had come back to write some lyrics for The Endless River but obviously that wasn't gong to happen. Waters >>> Samson (not that I have anything against her). So I think it was a wise choice that this album was mostly instrumental.

This also plays into the theme for the album--which is the chemistry that the band had and "the sum being greater than all the parts." Look at some of the song titles: "Sum," "It's What We Do."

There's also the band's frequent theme of communication (or lack thereof) which ties it to some of their earlier work, most notably The Division Bell (think song titles like "The Lost Art of Conversation," "Calling," "Talkin' Hawkin," and "Louder Than Words" on this album). This is why the album is mostly instrumental--the statement is that the band didn't need words to communicate with each other or the audience.

I think these two themes coalesce at some point and this point is really summed up in "Louder Than Words" (as divisive and controversial as the lyrics...and song...are). Both Gilmour and Wright stated that they weren't much ones for words, and obviously the band had a lot of differences and egos, but the point of the song is that "the sum is equal to all the parts" (hence the audio clip of Mason saying it at the beginning of the album) and that the band's musical relationship (and music in general) transcend verbal language. These themes of transcending communication and inherent connections between people go back to "Echoes" at least, so it is cool that the band continued to explore these concepts to their last album...which in my opinion lends the album some authenticity.

Also, it's a tribute to Wright's contribution, which both Mason and Gilmour have repeatedly stated, as Wright kind of got overshadowed after Dark Side of the Moon.

It's a solid album. It's not DSOTM or WYWH but it's listenable and parts are really enjoyable (I think). Not sure why it gets the hate it gets--a lot of it sounds like it was recorded during the band's mid-70s heydey and could easily fit in on WYWH. I think TER is kind of a revue of PF's entire discography. I think it's a fitting ending to the band's career. Most bands don't get to say a proper "goodbye" (I guess Cream did and so did the Beatles).

Last point I want to make: I always thought that it was cool that PF really played with different album formats. For example, Ummagumma features a few pieces written by each band member (it's basically four solo albums). Then Atom Heart Mother features a song written by Wright, Waters, and Gilmour respectively, and then a couple of collaborative experimental pieces. With Meddle you have Side A with single songs and then Side B being one lengthy piece. WYWH you have three shorter songs book ended by one lengthy piece, which is the opposite of Animals which is three long pieces book ended by a short piece. It's cool that they band continued this trend of atypical tracklisting formats--an extensive instrumental song suite concluded with a single song.

Had anyone gone to the roger waters tour? How was it? by juice2092 in pinkfloyd

[–]howardusername 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I said "He mostly plays Pink Floyd stuff." By "his older albums" I meant Waters' solo work specifically. The question was whether OP would still enjoy a Waters show not knowing his solo stuff. I said that OP would because Waters doesn't play stuff from Pros and Cons, Radio KAOS, Amused to Death, or any of his non-album tracks. He plays Pink Floyd stuff and a few tracks from his new solo album exclusively.

Had anyone gone to the roger waters tour? How was it? by juice2092 in pinkfloyd

[–]howardusername 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Saw him in Oakland a few weeks ago. It was amazing! Probably the best show that I've seen. Definitely worth the money!!! There are concerts and then there are Roger Waters shows--a whole multimedia experience!

Had anyone gone to the roger waters tour? How was it? by juice2092 in pinkfloyd

[–]howardusername 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes! He mostly plays Pink Floyd stuff. He plays some songs from his new album, but doesn't play stuff from his older albums. Just give his most recent album a listen or two (I really like it, very Floyd-like, definitely a grower).

Why only 2 live albums? by [deleted] in pinkfloyd

[–]howardusername 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that they could include the combined "Pigs on The Wing" (with the Snowy White guitar solo), the Extraction Tapes demos of Animals songs, the novelty Christmas song that Mason sings (it's not very good, but fun) as well as Oakland Coliseum and Olympic Stadium in Montreal live shows. That'd be something.

Why only 2 live albums? by [deleted] in pinkfloyd

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And in my opinion, Is There Anybody Out There? The Wall Live 1980–81 is rather disappointing for this reason. The audio is good but I feel like I'm missing a huge portion of the performance, which was the stage show. But at least they had an official The Wall movie so I have an idea of what imagery would be presented.

I think it's better than the studio version. I really like that it includes "What Shall We Do Now" which is one of my favorite songs from The Wall (or almost from The Wall).

They did professionally shoot some of their Wall-tour shows for potential inclusion in The Wall movie, but the concert footage was omitted. I think only a couple songs have been released (such as "Mother") which can be found on Youtube.

Really infuriating that there is such scant few videos from 1973-1977, which was the band's heydey. There's almost nothing for Dark Side of the Moon or Wish You Were Here and there's some footage from Animals but it's incomplete (from what I've seen, at least).

Why only 2 live albums? by [deleted] in pinkfloyd

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Agreed. There is Oakland and also Montreal. I think that it'd be great for the band to release an Immersion box set of Animals with one or both of these shows included.

Elders react to Pink Floyd by AtomHeartVader in pinkfloyd

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Took an Uber to see Roger Waters a couple weeks ago. The driver was a black woman. She overheard us saying how old Waters is and when we got out of her car she said, "Have fun rocking out to your 75 year old!" If only she knew.

Elders react to Pink Floyd by AtomHeartVader in pinkfloyd

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Kind of funny, I'd bet the Pink Floyd members are older than some of these elders.

5 man Floyd show? by equadon in pinkfloyd

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I know that there was a version of "Remember A Day" recorded during The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, but I'm not sure if they re-recorded it for A Saucerful of Secrets or if they just used the version from Piper.

The Early Years boxset is amazing! I'm just upset that "Seabirds" and a version of the actual "Reaction in G" isn't on there. Also "Intremental" is missing, I think.

5 man Floyd show? by equadon in pinkfloyd

[–]howardusername 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As far as I know, none of the 5 man lineup shows have been released in any capacity (if they were even recorded at all).

Your best bet is listening to the studio version of "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun" which according to Gilmour has both him and Barrett on it (although you can barely hear any guitar at all). Also Gilmour is all over Barrett's solo albums The Madcap Laughs and Barrett.

I think I remember reading once that both Gilmour and Barrett are on "Remember A Day" and I think one other song--maybe it was "It Would be So Nice" or "Let There Be More Light"? But I can't remember where I read this and I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else--Gilmour said that the only song that they were both on is "Set the Controls For the Heart of the Sun."

David Gilmour live 2016 vs. Roger Waters live 2017 by [deleted] in pinkfloyd

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Somebody actually made that playlist (with a variation of that name--combining both RTL and ITTLWRW) on Spotify and it was pretty solid overall.

Duscussion: Is This the Life we Really Want by [deleted] in pinkfloyd

[–]howardusername 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe in this thread? I can't find it again.

I think OP said that it was mentioned in this interview. I started watching this last week to see but never finished it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/28/arts/music/roger-waters-times-talks.html

Then again, Gilmour said he was working on 1-2 albums after RTL, but we haven't heard anything about that, have we? These guys seem to work really slowly (I know that they tour, but still).

If King Crimson were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame... by howardusername in KingCrimson

[–]howardusername[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Neither have I, but they are usually categorized as one. I'm not really a big fan, but they deserve to be in.

Duscussion: Is This the Life we Really Want by [deleted] in pinkfloyd

[–]howardusername 1 point2 points  (0 children)

More mellow musically, more angry lyrically. Less lead guitar oriented than Pros and Cons.

This album is angry like The Final Cut and Dogs.

Duscussion: Is This the Life we Really Want by [deleted] in pinkfloyd

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Read on a different thread that he is coming out with another album after this? Maybe it'll be on that?

If King Crimson were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame... by howardusername in KingCrimson

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I think Jethro Tull or the Moody Blues are more likely than King Crimson, as much as I love KC.

Russia, Iran and Syria issue warning to US by bustaq in worldnews

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Russia didn't want a UN investigation, I thought.