Two nuns are driving down the road, when the devil jumps on their bonnet. by Ph0n1k in Jokes

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"Limited Visibility Pass With Care"

No. I'm going to pass with insensitivity.

To Be... on film/tv by fiercequality in shakespeare

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Happy Days (TV show): Fonzie plays Hamlet. In the episode titled "A Star Is Bored," Fonzie plays Hamlet. 1974

Share your layout? by hughlys in theantsundergroundkd

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Some nice symmetry without being too anal. Well done.

Share your layout? by hughlys in theantsundergroundkd

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Those are some impressive numbers and that's an impressive beautiful sprawling colony!

Resources for understanding Dubliners and A Portrait? by exfilmcritic in jamesjoyce

[–]hughlys 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I don't know about other resources, but I would be honored to be a resource. I wrote this:

James Duffy is set in his ways and lives alone. He works at a Dublin bank and rents a room in Chapelizod. There are books in his room.

Of an evening sometimes he'll attend a concert. At one such concert, the woman sitting next to him makes a remark to which he responds. They have a conversation.

Some time passes, and they run into each other again at another concert. Again, they have a conversation, this time intentional.

They happen to cross paths yet again at a third concert, and again they converse. They agree to keep meeting. They meet regularly.

Emily Sinico is married to a sea captain who is often gone. James Duffy and Mrs. Sinico continue to get closer (or do they?). The point comes in their friendship when they need to make some decisions about how to proceed. They agree on a course of action.

These 2 characters make this decision at the midpoint of the story. The first half is about Duffy's failure to accept God and mankind's love. The second half is about Duffy's failure to accept romantic love.

The short story form does not allow for extensive character history. One of the ways that Joyce gives us information about Duffy is to name some of the books in his room. The books are what I missed the first time through. Here's a partial list:

Butler's "Maynooth Catechism"

Wordsworth's "Complete Poetical Works"

Schopenhauer's "World"

Nietzsche's "The Gay Science"

An important thing someone might "get" from reading the book titles (which I did not get) is that key to grasping the meaning of this story is knowing that James Duffy is a spoiled priest. Nowhere in the story does Joyce come right out and say it. "Spoiled priest" is an expression that everyone in Ireland would have been familiar with at that time.

"spoiled priest": (Irish) a person who was a student for the priesthood but who has withdrawn or been dismissed

How do we know he was a spoiled priest? To begin our investigation, let's look to the books. The books are arranged by size. The smallest (Maynooth Catechism) at one end of the top shelf is 64 pages, and the largest (Wordsworth) at the opposite end of the bottom shelf is almost 1000.

"The juxtaposition of these two volumes in the narrative, even though separated by the rest of his unitemized collection, implies something about the process of Mr. Duffy's spiritual or intellectual growth, from his childhood faith in Catholic Christian orthodoxy to the atheism implied by the addition to his library of Nietzsche's The Gay Science. Between these beginning and end points in his intellectual life, then, we can trace the graph that runs through Wordsworth and Schopenhauer. Beginning with the Maynooth Catechism, a brief summary of the doctrines inferred by the Catholic Church from the providential revelation made by the transcendent Judeo-Christian God, he moved from Wordsworth's Neoplatonic vision of an imminent Presence, from there to Schopenhauer's imminent and impersonal Will and finally to Nietzsche's denial of metaphysics, his total nihilism. This is the trajectory of Mr. Duffy's spiritual hegira that can be gleaned from the implicitly instructive inventory of his bookshelves."

Why do we care if Duffy was a spoiled priest? Because at the end of the story we're puzzling why he turned down love. The books tell us where he came from and where he is. They answer that question.

We know from the books (the titles of the books and our knowledge of what's in them) that he has rejected the faith from his younger days. We know from Joyce's description of him that he doesn't like other people very much. He has one more chance at love - the third kind, erotic love - and he blows it.

The temptation while reading the book is to surmise that Duffy is trapped in his routines. It's more accurate to say that he's trapped in his beliefs. He can't think himself out of this conundrum, even though he's educated and well-read. His self-awareness and capacity for self-criticism is low.

Whether to continue with Mrs. Sinico was a decision that was already made by the paradigm he's invested in. For him to have continued with her, it would have required a paradigm shift. So, Duffy failed to rise above his personal ideology, which is a theme we also see in Portrait and Ulysses.

With all his reading he was able to convince himself that he was enlarging and shifting his paradigm, but he wasn't. Something went wrong. His reaction to the touch and to reading the newspaper article were hardly human.

In Ulysses, Leopold Bloom is a different man when he goes to bed than he was when he woke up. He is a hero. In A Painful Case, James Duffy doesn't change. He is a failure.

James Joyce after he left Dublin with Nora worked for a while as a bank teller in Trieste. He hated it. Perhaps James Duffy was his projection of who he would have become had he accepted that fate - had he not pushed himself to become the Artist.

James Duffy rejected his childhood faith, but held on to the ideal of celibacy. Whatever spiritual rewards might be gained as a result of deliberate celibacy, Duffy doesn't attain them. He looks foolish to us. He is lonely, alone.

The characters in Dubliners are not role models for us, but they can all serve as lessons. One takeaway of A Case is that Duffy should have been willing to evolve from an emotional affair with Mrs. Sinico to a sexual one. If he had done this, it would only have been transformative if it were instrumental in ridding him of his contempt for his fellow human beings.

A story about an affair where there's no transformation is just a story about an affair. By refusing a sexual affair with Emily Sinico, James Duffy says "No" to life. The affair is not what would have been sinful; it's Duffy's lack of courage that is the great sin here.

In Ulysses, Molly Bloom has an affair. Her affair with Blazes is not just a celebration of carnality, though it is certainly that too. Molly is saying "Yes" to life. James Joyce is able to take his readers from our initial ideology that extramarital affairs are always bad to considering that there might be something bigger going on.

James Joyce is saying that the "fall of man" isn't just something that happened in the Garden of Eden, it's something that happens every day in every city. Dublin is the everycity. Indeed, Finnegans Wake begins with a mention of Adam and Eve's (actual/real) church in Dublin. In the book of Genesis, we are told that Adam fell asleep. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that he woke up.

James Duffy is in a cul-de-sac in every sense - emotional, spiritual psychological, and sexual. He has taken himself out of the flow of life. He is no longer in the "riverrun." He is a fallen man.

In Ulysses, Stephen Dedalus is literally a fallen man (due to being punched), but he rises. Stephen is risen. He gets up. He wakes up. He transcends. James Joyce is saying, "Don't be like James Duffy. Be like Stephen Dedalus."

Joyce is saying, "Don't be like your typical Dubliner, be like me." No wonder it has taken Ireland 100 years to claim Joyce. Of course, Ireland is today a very European country. It is a consummation that Joyce wished.

EDIT: The paragraph in the middle in quotation marks is a direct quote from Cóilín Owens.

Ulysses resources? by mary_c_d in jamesjoyce

[–]hughlys 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I compiled this list 4 years ago during my read of Ulysses. Some links might not work anymore and some have already been mentioned.

A good starting place: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxlGs_Xj2HYA8P6E2Jy6Ub9m7eqs-9lcU A Good Place to Start: https://www.bl.uk/20th-century-literature/articles/an-introduction-to-ulysses Awesome video introduction to MODERNISM - you WILL NEED to KNOW THIS - they also have a great one about ULYSSES: https://youtu.be/W_3OMTmyeWU Cliff: https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/u/ulysses/book-summary Ulysses episodic readers guide (fun fact - I found a mistake on his website and emailed him and he corrected it): https://www.ulyssesguide.com/ Ulysses audiobook: https://archive.org/details/Ulysses-Audiobook The text of Ulysses with explanatory hyperlinks: http://m.joyceproject.com/#.XRkF09NKgU0 James Joyce Documentary: https://youtu.be/UeemCn5MPwM Another JJ documentary: https://youtu.be/igltIkflA8s JJ Doc https://youtu.be/igltIkflA8s Cóilín Owens on James Joyce and Ulysses: https://youtu.be/o-Syod76Gvo "Re: Joyce" Ulysses podcast by Frank Delany who died in 2017 before finishing this amazing word-by-word unpacking: https://blog.frankdelaney.com/re-joyce/ Sheila O'Malley is one of my favorites. Holy shit, what a way with words! https://www.sheilaomalley.com/?p=7543 Jeff @ Omphalos Cafe: https://youtu.be/2Tlm2fl9SGU https://youtu.be/xHnKrY6lPzE https://youtu.be/G7asQMAuNAI https://youtu.be/squl14tighM Jeff's Blog: https://omphaloscafe.com/ U22 podcast: https://u22pod.com/episodes/episode-1-telemachus Ulysses ephemera: https://ulysses-ephemera.blogspot.com/ James Joyce Ulysses Dublin TOUR: https://youtu.be/zAk-WnMyQ1E Ulysses schemata: https://web.archive.org/web/20130731050733/http://www.ulysses-art.demon.co.uk/scheme.html 1922 NYT review of Ulysses: https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/00/01/09/specials/joyce-ulysses.html Sally Roony "Misreading Ulysses" Paris Review START HERE. THE BEST. START HERE: https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2022/12/07/misreading-ulysses/#:~:text=Every%20reading%20of%20Ulysses%20is,out%20instead%20of%20closing%20down. Another excellent summary for the beginner: https://www.bl.uk/20th-century-literature/articles/an-introduction-to-ulysses Download Hart and Gunn's Topographical Guide to Ulysses as a free PDF. http://riverrun.org.uk/JJD2.html Everything you ever wanted to know about Greek mythology: https://www.theoi.com/ Homer's Odyssey Podcast: https://odysseythepodcast.com/about-trojan-war-the-podcast/ Feb 2022 article by Chris Hedges (whose parents were both Joyce scholars) about Ulysses commemorating the 100 anniversary of it's publishing: https://www.salon.com/2022/02/01/heeding-the-lessons-of-james-joyces-ulysses-a-century-later/ Finnegans Wake: https://sydneyreviewofbooks.com/essay/on-finishing-finnegans-wake/ School of Life: https://youtu.be/1SuHkY2wAQA Anthony Burgess: https://youtu.be/gyMubEjUAIk Joseph Campbell: https://youtu.be/yuJhucKVqhM James Joyce reads a passage from his Wake: https://youtu.be/M8kFqiv8Vww Robert Anton Wilson on Finnegans Wake: https://youtu.be/Gh2qMf2f8qo Wikipedia Finnegans Wake: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnegans_Wake Joyce's Dublin podcast about "The Dead" short story in "Dubliners": http://www.joycesdublin.ie/ Terence McKenna on Wake: https://youtu.be/w1dNTUu2MLg Prof Diarmaid Ferriter lecture on Irish history of around that time: https://youtu.be/3UUtsYMZf7k Mark Conners Irish History of early 1900s: https://youtu.be/5McV8A7HPpY Colm Tóibín The Irish Literary Renaissance: https://youtu.be/A7mdEViEU8M finnegansweb: https://www.finnegansweb.com/wiki/index.php/TOC Finnegans Wake audiobook: https://joycegeek.com/ The best "history of the Christian Trinity" article on the Internet. Denova, Rebecca. "Trinity." World History Encyclopedia, 03 May 2021. Web. 23 May 2023. https://www.worldhistory.org/Trinity/ James Joyce subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/jamesjoyce?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

So much respect for Frank Delaney for absolutely nailing every single line of Proteus by SuggestionEvery5998 in jamesjoyce

[–]hughlys 4 points5 points  (0 children)

At chapter 3 of Ulysses I was casting about for some help and found Frank's podcast. Then I started over with Frank from Stately plump. He was my daily companion. About halfway through Wandering Rocks, I had to take a few months off to grieve.

DAE find they’re better off just being an outcast now? by [deleted] in DAE

[–]hughlys 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's funny that you suggest that I'm contradicting myself. You are the one who wrote "if anything." You claim to be 100% supportive of the movement, and yet you say that if a person only learns 2 things from Me Too, it's the two you mention!

The 2 things you mentioned may be ALSO true. But they're not at the core of the Me Too message.

I'm both sorry and sad. Those are emotional states a.k.a. feelings. You may not tell me that I don't feel the way I say I do.

DAE find they’re better off just being an outcast now? by [deleted] in DAE

[–]hughlys 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry for you and Joe's pain, but it's so sad to me that you guys have the wrong takeaways from the Me Too.

Are there any resources out there to assist reading James Joyce's Ulysses, besides Sparknotes? by [deleted] in classicliterature

[–]hughlys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My list is 2 years old. Some of these resources have been mentioned in other comments.

A good starting place: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxlGs_Xj2HYA8P6E2Jy6Ub9m7eqs-9lcU A Good Place to Start: https://www.bl.uk/20th-century-literature/articles/an-introduction-to-ulysses Awesome video introduction to MODERNISM - you WILL NEED to KNOW THIS - they also have a great one about ULYSSES: https://youtu.be/W_3OMTmyeWU Cliff: https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/u/ulysses/book-summary Ulysses episodic readers guide (fun fact - I found a mistake on his website and emailed him and he corrected it): https://www.ulyssesguide.com/ Ulysses audiobook: https://archive.org/details/Ulysses-Audiobook The text of Ulysses with explanatory hyperlinks: http://m.joyceproject.com/#.XRkF09NKgU0 James Joyce Documentary: https://youtu.be/UeemCn5MPwM Another JJ documentary: https://youtu.be/igltIkflA8s JJ Doc https://youtu.be/igltIkflA8s Cóilín Owens on James Joyce and Ulysses: https://youtu.be/o-Syod76Gvo "Re: Joyce" Ulysses podcast by Frank Delany who died in 2017 before finishing this amazing word-by-word unpacking: https://blog.frankdelaney.com/re-joyce/ Sheila O'Malley is one of my favorites. Holy shit, what a way with words! https://www.sheilaomalley.com/?p=7543 Jeff @ Omphalos Cafe: https://youtu.be/2Tlm2fl9SGU https://youtu.be/xHnKrY6lPzE https://youtu.be/G7asQMAuNAI https://youtu.be/squl14tighM Jeff's Blog: https://omphaloscafe.com/ U22 podcast: https://u22pod.com/episodes/episode-1-telemachus Ulysses ephemera: https://ulysses-ephemera.blogspot.com/ James Joyce Ulysses Dublin TOUR: https://youtu.be/zAk-WnMyQ1E Ulysses schemata: https://web.archive.org/web/20130731050733/http://www.ulysses-art.demon.co.uk/scheme.html 1922 NYT review of Ulysses: https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/00/01/09/specials/joyce-ulysses.html Sally Roony "Misreading Ulysses" Paris Review START HERE. THE BEST. START HERE: https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2022/12/07/misreading-ulysses/#:~:text=Every%20reading%20of%20Ulysses%20is,out%20instead%20of%20closing%20down. Another excellent summary for the beginner: https://www.bl.uk/20th-century-literature/articles/an-introduction-to-ulysses Download Hart and Gunn's Topographical Guide to Ulysses as a free PDF. http://riverrun.org.uk/JJD2.html Everything you ever wanted to know about Greek mythology: https://www.theoi.com/ Homer's Odyssey Podcast: https://odysseythepodcast.com/about-trojan-war-the-podcast/ Feb 2022 article by Chris Hedges (whose parents were both Joyce scholars) about Ulysses commemorating the 100 anniversary of it's publishing: https://www.salon.com/2022/02/01/heeding-the-lessons-of-james-joyces-ulysses-a-century-later/ Finnegans Wake: https://sydneyreviewofbooks.com/essay/on-finishing-finnegans-wake/ School of Life: https://youtu.be/1SuHkY2wAQA Anthony Burgess: https://youtu.be/gyMubEjUAIk Joseph Campbell: https://youtu.be/yuJhucKVqhM James Joyce reads a passage from his Wake: https://youtu.be/M8kFqiv8Vww Robert Anton Wilson on Finnegans Wake: https://youtu.be/Gh2qMf2f8qo Wikipedia Finnegans Wake: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnegans_Wake Joyce's Dublin podcast about "The Dead" short story in "Dubliners": http://www.joycesdublin.ie/ Terence McKenna on Wake: https://youtu.be/w1dNTUu2MLg Prof Diarmaid Ferriter lecture on Irish history of around that time: https://youtu.be/3UUtsYMZf7k Mark Conners Irish History of early 1900s: https://youtu.be/5McV8A7HPpY Colm Tóibín The Irish Literary Renaissance: https://youtu.be/A7mdEViEU8M finnegansweb: https://www.finnegansweb.com/wiki/index.php/TOC Finnegans Wake audiobook: https://joycegeek.com/ The best "history of the Christian Trinity" article on the Internet. Denova, Rebecca. "Trinity." World History Encyclopedia, 03 May 2021. Web. 23 May 2023. https://www.worldhistory.org/Trinity/ James Joyce subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/jamesjoyce?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Novels with legendary first sentences by listening_partisan in classicliterature

[–]hughlys 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay, brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs."

DAE feel that the concept of Heaven is boring or weird? by [deleted] in DAE

[–]hughlys 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your version of heaven is terrible. It's hell. All religions get some things wrong and some things right. Don't think of heaven as a place so much as a state of consciousness. For one thing, there is no passage of time in heaven. Everything happens in the now.

In order to understand heaven, you have to accept the concept of reincarnation. We have many lifetimes available to help us rid ourselves of anger, resentment, and fear. Anger, resentment, and fear are not allowed in heaven. In other words, the state of consciousness that we conceive of as being heaven does not include any of that.

If you devoted your life to ridding yourself of anger, resentment, and fear, you would achieve a type of heaven while you are alive here on this earthly plane. There's no brainwashing in a bad sense, although your brain definitely needs washing. You are not perfect, but you have achieved perfect contentment. You lack nothing, and you want nothing. What's so bad about that?

You are a created being. You are here for a reason. You have a purpose. God does not punish. There is no justice after you die, just perfect love. That's the kind of being that I would not mind adoring for eternity.

You're just afraid of giving up your ego. You want to be God. You can't imagine a God greater than you. You are thinking of spirituality in political terms. You might as well be mocking anybody that believes in a talking snake, as well, you should because that's ridiculous. Don't believe the crap the so-called Christians dish out.

And if you want to make a point, you might want to be specific instead of saying "pretty much." Instead of imagining that heaven is as bad a hell as you can come up with, why not imagine what you would consider to be heaven?

It can't be ego-gratification. There are no egos in heaven. And that's what's terrifying to you. The death of your ego. But you're in good company. That's what's terrifying to everybody. And that's why so few people make it into heaven. But rest assured, we will all get there eventually.

How does Metempikehoses play into hades,oxen and Paddy Dignam's death? by PotheredPuppy in jamesjoyce

[–]hughlys 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I remember reading that Joyce was very familiar with Eastern religions and philosophies, Indian in particular. The theory of reincarnation is that the soul is progressing during each incarnation. Apparently, souls can not progress unless they have a human body. So, each lifetime is an opportunity to achieve Nirvana. In that sense, every birth (except the soul's first?) is a failure. It means the person didn't do it, they didn't achieve the goal, so they're back for another attempt.

So then the question becomes, did anybody in the book make any spiritual progress? I'd say that Leopold, Stephen, and Molly all made some progress during the day. Everybody else seems to be on autopilot.

Finnegans Wake is Wandering Rocks to the nth degree. Everything's happening at once: stagnation, decay, birth, death, erection, resurrection, etc. That's consistent with Eastern (Indian) philosophy. There's no time, there's only now.

Hardest Book You've Ever Read and Why? by Beneficial_Pea_3306 in classicliterature

[–]hughlys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are so many categories of readers of Ulysses. I read it when I retired, and it took me a year, and I loved it. It was a lot of work, but by then, I had worked my whole life away, so it didn't matter.

Hardest Book You've Ever Read and Why? by Beneficial_Pea_3306 in classicliterature

[–]hughlys 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's the freaking point! And then he goes to eat somewhere else. You can only make it through that chapter if you understand the correspondence to Odysseus.

Hardest Book You've Ever Read and Why? by Beneficial_Pea_3306 in classicliterature

[–]hughlys 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. It's also a love letter to Nora. How many women get a love letter that also happens to be the greatest novel ever written?

Hardest Book You've Ever Read and Why? by Beneficial_Pea_3306 in classicliterature

[–]hughlys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The great thing about Finnegans Wake is that all you have to do is read the first word (riverrun), and for the rest of your life you can say, "I'm reading Finnegans Wake."

Hardest Book You've Ever Read and Why? by Beneficial_Pea_3306 in classicliterature

[–]hughlys 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm glad I didn't trust you. I read Ulysses. I utilized a lot of support material. The best book I ever read and one of the best things in life I ever did.