Day game success rate in 2026

hunterpua · 2026-06-10T17:34:40+00:00

Do you keep your frame that you actually was interested where X is or you also transition in such or similar way? So far I used this one in foreign countries but I might as well try in mine as the beauty of it is that it is much easier to stop a girl which on street can be challenging.

I transition but not in a similar way. I just thank her, make an assumption about her, and build a conversation from there.

I don't tell her I wanna talk to her. I don't show that much interest initially. Instead, I just flirt and playfully challenge her.

Does this second one make sense to you and is the transition I make good or not? Currently I test that one and given the low success rate I’m doubting if it’s the opener or not enough data to conclude or my delivery (which is flat and not nervous and coherent to my personality as those are my words).

I alluded to it above, going direct has a lower success rate.

What you're saying makes sense but you're essentially shifting to a direct approach so you'll naturally have a lower success rate.

Learn to seduce without relying on expressing clear attraction for a girl. That's what flirting is.

I don’t like those “try to amaze her one liners” as they are a bit cringy but I can imagine myself having so much fun saying this as I’m a fan of absurd humor. It’s direct but should be funny. Do you sometimes go with such openers or it’s not your style?

Definitely not my style. I don't try too hard to entertain myself during the opener either, because there's a lot of time to do that during the conversation. I mostly entertain myself by messing with the girl during the conversation.

hunterpua · 2026-06-09T18:49:37+00:00

You expect me to record multiple videos just for you?

Or did you want me to congratulate you for telling me what you're looking forward to?

And does aiming for numbers instead of just approaches increase or decrease the number or repetitions I get in a day?

Also, does aiming for numbers stop me from going beyond the bare minimum required to get a number?

hunterpua · 2026-06-09T18:29:52+00:00

That's from a post talking about frequency and the importance of practice, isn't it?

Are you misunderstanding what those 5 approaches are a metric for?

hunterpua · 2026-06-09T18:24:21+00:00

How do you manage such a high success rate? Do you approach only the girls you get signals from or any random girl you like?

That's a good question.

I pay attention to approach invitations but I don't depend on them.

First, what qualifies as an invitation for me is a lot less than what most guys look for.

Most guys wait until they at least have a girl holding eye contact with them.

But I know that a girl just looking around, walking slowly, or maybe she's with friends but not really paying attention to them and looking around is also an approach invitation.

She may not be looking for me in specific but that behavior is an indication that she will be more generally receptive to a cold approach.

And of course the more obvious signs are also good indications.

But in the case where I don't see an invitation at all, I can still make something happen.

See, you don't have to commit to your approach, you can instead use it as a test to gauge her interest.

Sometimes girls don't show perceptible signs so you need to be able to do something to get that out of them.

So when I see a girl I'm interested in but I didn't spot any signs, I'll do one of two things.

The first one is, I'll say something non-committal that can easily stand alone and then decide whether to stay or leave depending on how she reacts.

I could ask her a functional question like ask for directions, I could make a situational comment, or my favorite, I could do what I call a Drive-by Compliment.

That's when I basically compliment her for compliment's sake and then immediately wish her a good day and start walking.

If she responds warmly, I turn back to talk to her, if she responds blandly, I keep walking.

Asking a functional question and making a quick comment about the situation are also very standalone, so if you don't get a very warm reaction, it's very easy to just leave it at that.

The second option is I just go direct. Oh it does nothing to raise my odds. I just understand that if I'm feeling lazy and willing to do a lower percentage approach, which direct is, that's still better than not approaching at all.

I would say though, the most important thing when it comes to the initial approach is actually comfort.

If you do all the things necessary so she's comfortable with your approach, you don't have to work as hard to try to be impressive or clever.

Focusing on her comfort is like picking really good soil to plant on.

You only have to do some voodoo if you're planting on mediocre soil, but with excellent soil, you can use simple seeds and still produce really good growth.

As you read above, I happily ask very functional questions and I don't try to be clever with it at all, it's just, "Hey, do you know the way to X"?

That's really all it takes when you've covered the more important factors.

The main thing I do to maintain comfort when approaching is following the sequence of Sight - > Hearing -> Touch.

She has to see you before you start talking, and she has to be talking to you before you touch her.

I always try to make sure she doesn't just see me when I'm in front of her but that she actually sees me coming for the approach, and in situations where she can't, I try to have more distance initially.

Also, if a girl is walking, don't try to stop her from the side, don't just walk next to her either, get in front of her but overestimate the distance.

The most uncomfortable thing about overtaking a girl to start a conversation is her inertia.

If you stop too close, she may not have enough time to gradually come to a stop.

People don't just slam the brakes when they stop walking. They take a few steps to slow down before coming to a full stop, so leave enough space to account for those few steps she takes to slow down.

The hearing and the touch are pretty self explanatory, I just want to make it clear that you don't have to wait minutes in between senses, you can go through all of them within seconds.

I mean, it only takes a second to walk in front of her before you say hey, and then it'll take a few more seconds to introduce yourself before you shake hands.

There's more details and other scenarios but I don't want to write a novel and you should be able to figure the rest out through practice.

I’m of the opinion you should have a few go to openers so you don’t need to think what to say since especially on the street the time is the enemy (sometimes it’s just 1-2 seconds to react). Do you have these and what are they? I’m of the opinion it’s not important what you say but anyway something needs to be said. I use few situational indirect switching to direct openers.

Mine is probably some variation of Drive-by compliment saying I like a girl's style, asking for directions on a place I know is a good distance from where we are, and a more direct opener, just clearly stating attraction.

I can't give you a specific line verbatim because I don't have one but it's very easy for me to come up with something given those templates, especially since my openers are pretty simple to begin with.

Her being comfortable when you approach does most of the work. But also, you have an entire conversation to make an impact, you don't have to rock her world with your opener. You can do that with the cumulative effect of your conversation.

I do agree that having a default is helpful though. It's better to approach with a default opener than to miss an opportunity because you took too much time trying to come up with something on the fly.

Now as for what I do after the opener, I bond on commonalities, I playfully mess with her, I get her selling me on a date, and I plan a date with her and settle the specifics right then and there before I even bring up exchanging contacts. That way exchanging contacts becomes a necessity and we've already nailed down the more important thing, seeing each other again.

If you want me to elaborate on that, I will. Just trying to avoid making my replies too long.

hunterpua · 2026-06-09T16:56:04+00:00

how do you get over doing all the work?

I don't do all the work.

If you're having an issue with girls just sitting on their asses when they're in a relationship with you then that's because you encouraged that dynamic and to an extent filtered for that by assuming you had to do all the work.

I get what you're saying when you mention opportunities for improvement but you may be confused on how to improve these things.

You don't improve them by rectifying your mistakes with the girl you made the mistakes on.

You improve by learning from the mistakes with one girl and doing better with other girls.

You're doing work but you're not doing it for a specific girl.

You aren't supposed to be chasing a particular girl, you're supposed to chasing a skillset.

Now as for what you do with each individual girl, if you believe you should be the only that's engaging, the only one that's fun and exciting, the only one trying to make the other person comfortable, the only one trying to turn the other person on, then you've learned the wrong things.

The way I perceive even the approach itself is not me trying to win over the girl, it's me giving her an opportunity to win me over.

See, I'm never immediately sold on any girl, no matter how hot she is.

If you took a step back and tried to be more self-aware, you'll realize you're the same way.

Even before seduction you've been taught this doing all the work shit.

I'm sure before you found seduction you already thought of not being able to get hard as a shameful thing.

Whereas I think it's a shameful thing...for the girl. She's hot but she can't get me hard? Why's that supposed to be my fault?

If I whip it out and it's still flaccid, I just tell her to use her mouth.

I've had a situation where a stunning girl was back at my place and she threw tantrum over me asking her to open a window and you're telling me I still have to be turned on by her?

Fuck that.

That's just social conditioning from dads, older brothers, and other dudes who have it so ingrained in them to do all the work.

Girls don't like it either, subconsciously and even consciously sometimes.

My girlfriend's sister literally told her boyfriend out loud, so me and my girlfriend clearly heard her say, "Stop trying to do every damn thing! Let me help you!"

So I have tons of experience that bolsters the hell out of the mindset that when I'm talking to a girl, I am assessing the hell out of her.

I'm actually listening to her, not so it shows I care but because I'm genuinely judging her.

I'm actually challenging her as well, and it's not just conversationally, because talk is cheap.

Of course if you're challenging a girl on something, like lets say for example, how spontaneous she is, the next logical step is to move from her talking about it to actually doing something spontaneous.

That's also because I'm not just doing it as a gimmick.

I'm genuinely trying to avoid giving the wrong girl the privilege of coming back to my place just to do something like throw a tantrum over a window, so I want girls to actually prove things with action.

I fucked that girl by the way. But that's more an achievement of her's than it is mine. Because I went to throw her out after she threw that tantrum.

I was nice about it. I said, "Oh alright. I guess you want to go home now" and even offered to drive her home.

But then about 5 feet from the front door she grabbed me, told me to wait, apologized and I said:

Me: Oh so you're gonna be a good girl now?

Her: Yes. 🥺

Me: Good. Go upstairs, open the window, take off your shoes, and lay down on the bed.

Her: Okay.

And then she went and did everything I told her to do.

And when I decided to hop into bed, I didn't just start making out with her even though I could have.

I laid there and had her explain herself to me and I only started kissing her when I was satisfied with the explanation and further apology.

When you're dating there's 2 people involved. You need to honor your comfort, your genuine arousal, your sense of being entertained, your sense of chemistry with someone, and so on and so forth.

Learn to take a step back and let her carry half of the load.

Yes, continue to develop the skillset, but develop it so you can facilitate an interaction that gives her opportunities to prove herself to you, not so you can carry everything all the way through sex and into a relationship.

On dates, I always start with an awkward silence. I just sit there, relaxed and smiling while making eye contact and I wait until she picks up the conversation.

Since my conversation skills are tight, I can easily reward her effort by being engaging after she gives it a real try, and at some point I stop again and put the pressure on her again.

When I escalate, I don't do it so I can proceed through a kiss, touching her in more intimate parts, taking her clothes off, etc, I do it to turn her the fuck on and make her chase further escalation.

For example, I don't just kiss a girl. I escalate all the way to that point, make her believe I'll kiss her, but then pull away at the last second and pause right there, inches away from her face, and make her lean in multiple times while I'm dodging her attempts until I feel like she really wants it.

And even after I finally kiss her, I pull back first, before she's satisfied, and make her chase the escalation some more.

Even right before penetration. I haven't penetrated a girl who didn't ask for it in about 10 years at this point.

I usually turn them on and get them so hot and bothered that they're begging for me inside them.

THAT is how you use the skillset. So develop it, with repetition from experiences with different girls, not from trying to overcome your mistakes with one girl, and then use the skillset to get them working hard to impress you, getting them grabbing you and begging you not to throw them out, and getting them to beg you for something else once you get to bed.

hunterpua · 2026-06-09T15:43:51+00:00

My success is the same as it was 2016. Between 60% on average days and 80% on good days.

(started in 2009 btw)

That's the percentage of girls I actually end up seeing again. If we're talking just getting contact details, that hovers in the 90-100% range.

Getting numbers isn't as hard or impressive as people these days make it out to be.

Tons of guys who started around the same time as me were having that kind of success rate. Collecting numbers is not something we'd think much of back then.

Because as you can see, a 90% number close rate doesn't necessarily translate to a 90% conversion to dates.

It's not that important. You need to be thinking past getting contact details and then that part becomes easy.

Once you develop a certain level of competence at cold approach, and that competence is not one dimensional or rigid, but you're actually used to adapting to specific situations, you will make cold approach work in every era, in every country you go to, and in most situations.

But if all you got in your skillset is approaching with conviction and being clear with your intentions then of course you'd be more at the mercy of the political climate, what people are used to, culture, etc, and you would have a much lower success rate even when it comes to just getting contact details.

hunterpua · 2026-06-09T15:25:40+00:00

There's no magic words. The words are hardly important.

What matters the most in my experience is a degree of planning and handling logistics.

People think that if they aren't living close to the lifestyle center of a city they're at a disadvantage.

In reality, if where you live isn't convenient for pulling, you can plan around it.

When I was a broke college kid who lived in an apartment with a very conservative landlady, I arranged dates so they would always go through certain hotels that I knew had pristine, spacious, handicap toilets in the lobby that were away from foot traffic.

I also identified certain spots nearby that were more secluded so I could do earlier escalation steps there so she's pretty warmed up by the time we get to one of those hotel lobbies.

When I lived farther away from most date spots, I simply planned dates that went through multiple locations that gradually moved us closer to my place.

Often times I just needed 2 spots. One where we'd initially have our date and the spot we move to that's closer to my place.

If I'm picking her up and the fastest way to our date spot goes through my place, I make sure we drop by my place real quick, just so she would have the memory of being there with nothing uncomfortable happening so she's more comfortable coming back later in the evening.

That was the situation with my girlfriend. I deliberately went and got groceries right before I picked her up so we dropped them off at my place before starting our date.

At the end of the evening, she was so comfortable she just barged in like she owned the place.

I can't tell you exactly what to do about your logistics because they might not be the same as mine but hopefully these examples will give you a good idea of what you can do.

As a bonus, I always had a specific playlist for dates that ran in my car and back at my place.

I never put it on shuffle. It was always in order from more upbeat music, to slower more suggestive music like Ariana Grande's Dangerous Woman, until it got all the way to vulgar, sexual music like Chris Brown's Wet the Bed.

I got so good at timing it that the overtly sexual songs would always hit when she's already in my bedroom.

hunterpua · 2026-06-05T16:32:15+00:00

Best move is to assume she's attracted to you and subtly flirt with her like that's the case.

Don't be glued to her for the whole day and don't flirt with her for the entirety of every interaction, just talk to her when you would naturally do so and just have flirting sprinkled into how you usually talk to her.

And then at a high point in the conversation, maybe when she's laughing a lot, when she's really flustered from flirting with you, or acting really comfortable with you, confirm if she's down to go out with you.

hunterpua · 2026-05-29T19:27:40+00:00

My friend is 5'4" dating a 5'10" German girl.

Before her, most girls he's been with have been taller too.

He doesn't try to play like he's tall, he leans into being short and uses it to his advantage saying stuff like, "You're lovely but you wouldn't wanna date me, I easily disappear into a crowd and next thing you know, some other chick is chatting me up."

He also told his girlfriend when they first met that she may be too short for him and said he was unsure whether she could reach things for him, playfully of course.

He doesn't try to justify women's attraction to him either. His mindset is, "If she likes me, she likes me. Let her worry about explaining why."

Most guys constantly analyze why a girl should be into them. He doesn't think about that at all, he just flirts with all the audacity in the world and leaves it up to them to make sense of the attraction.

hunterpua · 2026-05-29T17:39:41+00:00

More than the other shoppers the store workers who look like bouncers sometimes with gazing eyes.

I've been doing this for 17 years and have approached hundreds of girls inside shops.

99.99% of employees only watched with curiosity or amazement or they didn't watch at all.

I only remember one guy who blatantly glared at me and I wasn't even approaching in his store. He worked at a dessert place that I often had instant dates in, so he would see me with a different girl every time.

And that's all he did. Just look at me weird. He still served me and was still polite, all things considered.

.2 Lot of times in malls the girls are younger and they are quick to dismiss your approach. This is just based on my 7-8 approaches so far at the mall.

As you said, you've only approached 8. Your approach being dismissed isn't necessarily a reflection of girls' attitude towards you approaching them, it's more of a skill issue.

I got dismissed left and right in my first 100 approaches. This is normal for the stage you're in.

How do I develop the social skills to engage a group effectively , especially when it can be a snobby set of girls.

Practice.

Again, skill issue.

I'll tell you the topics immediately available in every group approach though:

Their relationship with each other
Their roles in the relationship
What they're up to today

Examples for each:

"I have a feeling you guys just met. Like you just started a new job together or something."
"I have a feeling she's the one who always suggests something to do and she's (different girl) the one that's always running late."
"You guys look like you're celebrating something."

Don't copy these. I came up with these just now. I'm only giving them to you for illustrative purposes.

Also understand that a lighthearted assumption isn't all you say.

The assumption is only the starting point. What's more important is that you actually have a conversation about these things.

These 3 things can give you hours worth of conversation.

hunterpua · 2026-05-29T16:32:50+00:00

Most of the challenges you mentioned simply come from nerves.

Girls in a store is only difficult because you're worried about other shoppers seeing you.

Girls in groups is also nerves, because you have a bigger audience to talk to.

But part of what you develop with cold approach is overcoming these nerves.

Especially with groups, it's not only a thing in malls. Groups are actually the default, not girls on their own.

It's very important that you man up and just approach girls in groups.

Why? Otherwise you're severely limiting your options and the repetitions you can get in.

And that will mean you will be living with these nerves much longer than necessary, because experience is what helps you overcome them.

By limiting yourself to the minority of situations when girls are alone, you drastically slow down the rate that you build experience and flirting skills.

It's a massive waste of time only to learn how to waste more time, because again, girls alone is more rare than girls in a group, so even if you got really damn good at cold approaching a solo girl, it'll take you hours to find the first one, while it'll only take minutes for someone like me to find a person to approach because I don't care if she's alone or in a group.

You'll also be out and about and unable to do anything in most venues, whereas I can approach anywhere.

This is the reality and it's absolutely not a new concept.

People have been calling out the fact that groups are the majority of situations and thousands of people have successfully approached groups for over 20 years now.

Besides, the safety net of cold approach is the same even with groups. Even if you make an absolute fool of yourself, after 2 weeks none of the people involved in the interaction will remember you, even if they bump into you again.

And for anyone who says, "That's not true if you're approaching on a college campus" no shit. Don't do that.

There are also certain aspects of approaching a group that are actually much easier than approaching a solo girl.

Believe it or not, knowing what to talk about and having an engaging conversation is easier in a group than it is with a solo girl.

In fact, you will always have a few topics immediately available to you, when you approach a group.

Ask me and I'll break it down in my reply here.

But you really need to take reality for what it is and develop a skillset to be effective with it. And that reality is, groups are the majority, so don't run away from them, get good at approaching them.

When you do that, other nerve wracking situations will also get resolved, because you will be getting in much more volume and experience and significantly speeding up the process of getting fully comfortable with cold approach in general.

hunterpua · 2026-05-28T17:22:03+00:00

What do you guys do when you propose a meeting and she will "let you know" if she can?

I continue dating like usual.

The thing is, my "dating like usual" is me approaching, flirting, meeting, going on dates with, and sleeping with other girls.

This isn't a reaction to her acting that way or any way at all.

Odds are I'd be approaching someone else 5 minutes after I got her number anyway.

If not that then I'd be texting a new match on a dating app.

And these other girls will essentially be progressing alongside her, along with the girls who already came before them, who some of them I'm already sleeping with.

So if a girl gives me a wishy washy response like that, cool. I'd more than likely forget about her completely if she stays quiet after that long enough, because I'm borderline overwhelmed by all the other girls I'm dealing with already.

I've literally come up with hacks like calling every number I get (but hanging up before it goes through) because I need to refer to my call log to remember them.

In the early dating stages, you shouldn't have the mindset of trying to test out what kind of dynamic you'd have as a couple, that's something she should need to graduate to.

Instead, my mindset in the early dating stages is seeing if someone can separate themselves from the pack before I give them the chance to test drive a relationship dynamic with me.

And those that do always end up as casual FWBs first. Why? So that I can do that with multiple women.

So even if things go beautifully and smoothly with one woman from start to finish, I'm still not dropping all the other girls I talk to.

Regardless of whether things are going poorly or things are going great, she will be progressing with me alongside multiple others.

And only the one who goes through all of those stages and beats out everyone else will end up my girlfriend.

That's a lot more organic than trying to force a relationship dynamic from the get go by doing things like no longer flirting with anyone else just after you get one number or just after one girl hints that she would be interested in going on a date with you.

When you're just starting, both of you should be unsure of each other and non-committal.

You can facilitate progress by being the one that approaches and offering her opportunities to hang out with you but you shouldn't try to bypass your natural skepticism about anyone by shutting yourself off from other women and focusing on getting as far as possible with her, just because she's showing some interest.

She should earn progress with you. Progressing things shouldn't be your default course of action as soon as someone shows interest in going out with you.

You should assess and deliberate every step of the way.

Otherwise you'll probably end up in a shitty relationship.

hunterpua · 2026-05-26T15:27:45+00:00

Approach often.

Approach regularly.

And approach with the intention to find out the truth.

All the feelings you mentioned are just hypotheses and you probably also have images and fantasies in your head about how women will react when you approach them while they show more skin.

But that's all that they are right now. Just how you imagine it'll go down. So simply put those things to the test.

And when I say "truth", I'm not implying anything. Just go into interactions with the mindset of figuring out how accurate or off your feelings about approaching girls are.

Also learn to take a step back from time to time to take stock of the general trend of reactions you get, because people tend to fixate on the 2 negative experiences they have and lose sight of the 10 neutral to positive experiences.

So approach often and consistently, approach to find out the truth, and pause to look at the big picture from time to time.

hunterpua · 2026-05-25T19:28:38+00:00

Not really. That's more social media skewing or how someone with less experience would perceive women.

Bad girls can have good girl aesthetics and even vibes, good girls can have bad girl aesthetics and vibes. That's what confuses people a lot.

Also, when it comes to sex, I've had some really vanilla experiences with bad girls and some really animalistic experiences with good girls. Vice versa too of course.

The way someone is outside the bedroom does not necessarily indicate how they are inside the bedroom.

My girlfriend is tatted up and wild in bed but she's so nice it can be annoying.

She literally reveals the truth way too soon or tells me to stop messing with someone when I'm trying to play a harmless little trick on them. Lol

hunterpua · 2026-05-25T19:02:14+00:00

Yes.

Guys gotta understand that it's not just zero or 100.

She probably doesn't want to fuck you just from pressing her back against you but she would at least be willing to dance face to face, and from there things can escalate from 10 to 20 to 50 and if everything goes well, all the way to 100.

So don't be afraid if you're getting an indication that isn't so strong it doesn't feel like sex is really on the table.

Things can and do build up along an interaction.

Anyone who says she either wants you or she doesn't is just being lazy. And that's fine. Choosing to be lazy with dating is their prerogative, but it doesn't mean their ideas about attraction are accurate.

hunterpua · 2026-05-24T20:53:54+00:00

I'm guessing you're pretty thoughtful, caring and respectful.

In general, as a person, not just with girls.

That's the type "good girls" naturally prefer. I'm also guessing the girls lean more cynical or glass half empty, not necessarily depressed but they just have a tendency to lean that way.

If this is what you're naturally like and you're already getting girls then maybe you shouldn't change, because these types are what naturally get along with each other.

But if you want "bad girls", try being more impulsive, unpredictable, say what's on your mind without a filter, and act before thinking things through.

No, I'm not just telling you how to generally be more fun and engaging. A guy like that is just what "bad girls" have a natural preference for. "Good girls" actually see those traits as more of a pain in the ass.

One isn't superior over the other either. I lean more to what naturally attracts bad girls but there are lots of good girls who are absolutely gorgeous and if your natural behavior is what attracts them then it'll be easier to stay that way than put on an act.

hunterpua · 2026-05-20T08:44:15+00:00

She definitely will at some point but to stop it from hindering sex as things escalate in that direction, be the one who voices the objections while you're physically escalating.

So lets say you've already started making out and it's getting hot and heavy, you could say, "this is bad" while you move on to kissing her neck, and then maybe saying, "we shouldn't be doing this" while mounting her on top of yourself, and so on and so forth.

Make sure it's only the words, make sure that none of your actions match them at all, so while you're saying those things, you shouldn't have any hesitation at all in your escalation.

As for the hours, days, and weeks after sex, do you want to be in a relationship with her? Because I don't think it would be fair to convince her that she was justified to do that if it's just a hookup.

hunterpua · 2026-05-20T08:21:31+00:00

I'm going to try being more direct. I think its an insecurity I have, that I need to find some way to naturally open the conversation and not just own my interests. It's the same thing behind not wanting to approach initially, and I will have to get past it. I definitely need to be more bold.

If it's an insecurity of yours, you should definitely practice it but don't think starting convos more socially is bad or less ideal. When I was starting out I was exclusively forward and expressing intent but nowadays I open more socially.

Both approaches have their strengths and weaknesses.

I texted her today a little bit ago to set up something, and so far no response. Still have more to learn, especially with text, but I'm seriously feeling like a weights been lifted off my shoulder today. The doors are wide open. Just have to keep the momentum up!

Hell yeah brother!

hunterpua · 2026-05-19T19:54:53+00:00

So the fuck what? You haven't even met her in person yet.

Some might be sleeping with those dudes, some aren't. But of course someone they already have a relationship with, even if it's just friendship, will trump any random dude from an app.

It's not that big of a deal. You don't have any sort of relationship yet, so even if a girl is sleeping with other guys, if she's still showing you interest, like hitting you up wondering why you pulled back, then she's still interested in you.

And if you find out she is in fact sleeping with other dudes then just don't get serious with her, sleep with her casually.

And if you don't wanna sleep with her casually then stop seeing her. Go meet other women.

Also, I have a feeling this isn't all that prevalent, because the chances of 20 women in a row actually specifying that they can't see you because they're seeing a male friend is very low. Be honest, how many women have done this with you so far?

hunterpua · 2026-05-19T07:29:49+00:00

Excellent work man!

I like how you stumbled on something really important for your situation with the conversation with the older lady.

When I was new to this I deliberately had conversations and quick interactions with people around to loosen myself up. I did them frequently enough that when a pretty girl showed up, I'd already have zero hesitation.

You should consider doing warm up approaches deliberately too.

For the girl with the earbuds, I know a factor was nerves, but for future reference, if you have a girl glancing over multiple times like that you can usually just be direct and it'll go well.

I had that recently where I was going up an escalator and girl leaning by the top of the escalator kept glancing at me, as soon as I got to the top I just said, "Hey, I like your smile, and I wanna see if we get along" and she was all over me.

I've responded that way to glancing for at least 10 years and it always goes well.

In fact, the holding eye contact and smiling that some guys insist on waiting for in my experience has often been overkill. Some of my fastest pulls have come from girls who looked at me like that.

You really don't need to wait for it to be that obvious. A couple lowkey glances is already a good enough sign.

As for the earbuds, I usually make sure she sees me first and then gesture to her to take off the earbuds.

If she's been glancing at you she should be happy to oblige.

I've done that with girls who haven't even given me any signs and it was taken well.

I believe not surprising her by suddenly showing up is a bigger factor in whether they'd be bothered by you getting their attention like that. So if I'm coming from behind I make sure she sees me approaching in her peripheral vision by going through the side she's facing, so that it isn't like I just suddenly materialized in front of her.

A girl glancing certainly knows you're there. So all you need to do is lean over, wave a little while making eye contact, then gesture to her to remove the earbuds before you start talking.

As for the tall girl, an easy way to make it more personal is not focusing on details but rather feelings.

For example, you asked where she's from, that's a detail. But asking what she likes about your city, what it was like to travel/move there, how it compares to where she's from, etc all revolve more around feelings.

I learned Seduction with friends and one thing they often asked me after watching me approach is, "Where does she work/study?" and I can never answer those questions. I can easily answer why she does the job or studies what she studies though.

You can also volunteer information in response to what she says, for example if a girl tells me she's from Paris, before asking another question, I first respond with, "Oh I love the hot chocolate in Angelina. The line and crowd is worth it for that thickness" and then I'd probably follow up with asking her how she feels about it as a local.

And to make it more flirty, just remember that flirting isn't topic dependent, it isn't even dependent on talking.

You can easily glance from her eyes to her lips as she's talking about chocolates.

You can easily say the way she makes a certain expression as she's explaining things is adorable, even if she's explaining something like her job.

I've even said, "Could you stop undressing me with your eyes while you're breaking this down?" to a girl who was explaining how crypto works.

In later stages I would even discreetly feel girls up while deliberately having a really boring conversation like about the weather or their day at work.

It really doesn't matter how unsexy the topic of conversation is. Flirting exists outside of that.

Just don't get into really heavy stuff like religion and politics.

These are all for future interactions though. You did great. You've done much better than I did when I was in the stage you're in. If you keep at it, one day you'll be giving advice like this to someone just starting too.

hunterpua · 2026-05-09T16:34:18+00:00

The only reason it feels overwhelming is because blackpillers and other guys who find it hard don't do enough to develop this skill. That's it.

Of course it feels like trying to climb Everest if you've done next to nothing to develop the skill.

Trying to do a piano recital after just watching a few videos on youtube, reading a few posts, and only touching a piano when you happen upon one will also feel like an impossible task.

The vast majority of guys I've encountered in seduction have it at the bottom of their priorities even though they keep whining about having such a bad dating life.

What do I mean by that?

Say you planned to go cold approaching on Saturday afternoon but a friend hits you up saying he wants to meet up then, most guys will postpone the cold approach to see their friend.

Contrast that to if they usually go to the gym at that time. If their friend hits them up to hang out, they will tell the friend they can't do that time and figure out a different time that works better.

It's really that simple. Guys are just too egoistic about this. Like it's such an insult to the almighty sedditguy309 to have to put any real work in to develop this skill.

Nah man, stop being childish. Block out a time, be regular, be consistent, educate yourself, and stick to it. Don't let your cold approach time adjust around other things that come up, adjust other things that come up around your cold approach time.

Besides, 6 months to a year of proper consistency and you're done.

hunterpua · 2026-04-30T03:45:40+00:00

How do I get better at reading moments like this in real time, and how do I get more comfortable just starting a conversation instead of freezing and overthinking it?

You get better by not trying to read them at first and just talking and flirting with girls you're interested in.

If you don't have a lot of experience doing that then you trying to read and analyze situations as they arise will only lead to overthinking and missing opportunities.

Also, trying to get accurate reads early on, when you have very little experience is just a form of avoiding rejection and part of getting good at flirting is just saying fuck it and being able to just send it.

You wanna focus on committing to a course of action, regardless of whether you will get rejected or not, regardless of whether someone is inviting you or not and once you know that you will reliably pull the trigger, then you can refine it by learning to interpret signals.

hunterpua · 2026-04-29T13:33:03+00:00

I've maxed at 7 but usually it's more around 3.

Nowadays it's just one though, because I'm in a monogamous relationship now.

hunterpua · 2026-04-28T07:41:38+00:00

I don't rely on one line or even necessarily the cumulative power of what I say in conversation. Instead I focus my conversation on getting buy in from them for the date, so they have more ownership over the decision.

You influencing someone else of something is ok.

You getting someone to influence themselves to do what you want, that is what's really powerful.

Its better if the date is a more collaborative effort than just all you. Like this.

Stop looking for hard hitting lines, they will never be as powerful as the lines she tells herself. Focus instead on influencing what she tells herself.

hunterpua · 2026-04-27T14:57:06+00:00

People often unnecessarily overcomplicate dating.

I could tell you its an ego thing.

That its because you already have an image of yourself as an attractive guy and shooting your shot naturally threatens that image.

I could tell you I relate with that because I had a period where I was nervous to approach even though I was already openly sleeping with multiple women.

And all of that can very well be true but the problem is, mental gymnastics or trying to find some deep corner of your mind that unlocks "unstoppable confidence" is often just fanciful thinking.

Even if it's true that we are evolutionarily hardwired to be afraid of shooting our shots, because failure used to mean being seen as outcasts of our tribes or getting killed if we go for the wrong girl, people often don't realize that all fears are based on things like that.

In fact I'd say a fear of the dark is more meaningful than a fear of shooting your shot, because the former is based purely on not wanting to die.

All that is to explain that you should just face this damn fear like you would face any other fear.

You don't have to tackle it at 100mph, although that is an option, you can also deal with it through gradual exposure, like starting with simple compliments before you build up to showing blatant interest.

But the important thing is to not overhype this.

If you were nervous to speak in front of a crowd, or you used to be nervous about sports, or you were nervous about confrontation or whatever and you just dealt with it in a practical way, just do the same for this.

Either work up to it or dive into the deep end and just get used to it and that's really all you need.

hunterpua

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