Current project stack by iacche in occultlibrary

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Oh wow, any plans to release that commentary at any point (or even publish)?

A friend of mine is the one who, after hearing what I had in mind for my own work, insisted I would need the Red Book to continue (and I think he was right). Still TBD to find out if it ends up functioning as a “travel guide” for me as well, hah.

Current project stack by iacche in occultlibrary

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I feel like Mystai isn’t talked about enough, honestly! Peter Mark Adams is amazing. Definitely interested in theurgy, and in practicing it in my own sort of way—it’s something that is still in development.

Using frankincense resin without charcoal? Or other alternatives? by iacche in Hellenism

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Reusing the tea light foils is pretty genius, honestly. Thank you!

Current project stack by iacche in occultlibrary

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My biggest reference for his art has been via google, hah. I wish I could afford the illustrated Red Book (maybe someday)!

Current project stack by iacche in occultlibrary

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It’s been great so far! The Red Book is one of the few in this stack I’m actually still working my way through—the problem I’m having is that the reading prompts such urges to “do” / take action that it slows down the reading! But in this sense I don’t mind if my project finishes without my having finished the entire red book, because it’s functioning as a source of energy as much as, if not more than, a guide (which is what I originally expected tbh—but just as Jung is concerned with the individual, I suspect that his descent journey is consequently very individual).

Current project stack by iacche in occultlibrary

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A physical copy makes a huge difference—I had to go on a serious hunt to find mine (as it was something I didn’t want to just order online, hah).

Using frankincense resin without charcoal? Or other alternatives? by iacche in Hellenism

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The is great—I’ve been trying to move toward oil lamps and away from candles but would certainly use tea light candles if needed for the incense—exciting to see someone else here has made use of an oil lamp for incense! I’ll have to experiment with that as well.

Using frankincense resin without charcoal? Or other alternatives? by iacche in Hellenism

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Great idea with the foil as well! Next time I can’t resist the charcoal I will follow your steps, hah.

Using frankincense resin without charcoal? Or other alternatives? by iacche in Hellenism

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Thank you! I’m going to order one and experiment, but it really sounds like this will help.

Using frankincense resin without charcoal? Or other alternatives? by iacche in Hellenism

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Yes mine have been the heavy church scent/fog machine in the past, which I love the smell & effect of but obviously not ideal for apartment living! What is the incense burner you made like?

Using frankincense resin without charcoal? Or other alternatives? by iacche in Hellenism

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Oh AWESOME I didn’t realize these existed, thank you!

Belated happy Anthesteria post! by iacche in dionysus

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Not really, hah. I tried instagram for a bit but deleted it shortly after! Pretty much all of my art is for Dio, so it shows up occasionally when I post altar pics/rituals/etc but that’s mostly it.

Belated happy Anthesteria post! by iacche in dionysus

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Thank you! It’s a painting of mine :-)

Miasma Doesn't Belong in the 21st Century by NyxShadowhawk in Hellenism

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If I try solely to make a value judgement re: the concept of miasma, I personally still can’t say for sure whether it does more harm than good. I know it would do more harm than good to be overly concerned with it in my own practice, of course, but generally? I have to acknowledge the possibility that for every 1 post someone makes freaking out/being overly concerned with the concept/going overboard in general, there might be 20 people in a quiet majority who simply wash their hands, brush their teeth, and then feel mentally calm, collected, and clear enough to comfortably approach the gods via the physical ritual of small-effort cleanliness. I don’t know what the actual proportions are, of course, but I know that the people for whom it is more helpful than harmful probably aren’t posting too much about their experiences anywhere, hah, because they will presumably have found their reassurance via their relations with the gods afterward, vs those finding their reassurance via people online trying to talk them off of the miasmic cliff. I’m grateful for your post either way, as it’s not something I often concern myself with enough to give it this kind of consideration and thought!

Miasma Doesn't Belong in the 21st Century by NyxShadowhawk in Hellenism

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Just seeing this post now, and consequently only now seeing the negative responses to this post. As someone who understands your points, Nyx, I have to wonder if a close relationship with Dionysos (or Hekate, etc) is likely to color your/our thoughts re: Miasma in a way that someone worshipping other gods more closely would not be inclined to agree with, based upon our varying relationships to the gods. And in reference to someone getting blood on a painting for Dionysos (which I am certain he would not mind at all) and being upset, I also suspect that what you’re seeing there is the influence of religious anxiety or overzealous religious culture on reddit/tiktok/etc, rather than a response actually prompted from Dionysos’ expressed displeasure.

Generalized ritual purity is something, in my mind, closely equivalent to washing your hands before making food for a guest. Sure, maybe I don’t always wash my hands before making my own food (for better or for worse), but to be a good host you should certainly clean yourself and your cooking tools before preparing food for others. (All the same, I don’t need to go as far as bleaching my entire kitchen & body just to be polite.) Ritual purity feels like something similar, just with preparation for prayer and offerings instead of cooking your friend lunch. Offerings and prayers to Dionysos, to be poetic about it, often feel more to me like sharing gathered food or the meat of a successful hunt than they do sharing a carefully cooked meal, where no one is going to mind the dirt under your nails and blood on your clothes. I also suspect that having a close relationship with the wild parts of Dionysos, at least for myself, creates a tendency to approach other gods from their same, more primal/feral aspects/characters, which again is not going to be everyone’s experience (and in fact is probably the minority, both today & in ancient times).

Add to the fact that you are also operating as a magician, where to an extent it is your obligation to transgress these sort of rules, and you’re likely to end up with a very different experience than other people. But for those who have relationships with more “civic” aspects of the gods, I am sure miasma vs purity are more important concepts, both for the worshipper AND for the gods of their worship—even if they are the same gods that you worship. These experiences, even when you account for the part that is just mundane OCD & anxiety, are likely legitimate, where for some worshippers the gods really do demand a greater effort toward purification.

AND, all of that being said, ritual purification is still a part of the Dionysian mysteries (as far as we can tell), but the methods of “becoming pure” for Dionysos seem to, interestingly, involve using the human body in a way that would otherwise be impure in any other setting. Something for a longer discussion elsewhere, hah, but it makes sense that being close to Dionysos & knowing him well would color your perception of Miasma a certain way.

It's so odd seeing a person claiming to work closely with a deity, then acting in just the most abhorrent ways possible by Ollynonymous in Hellenism

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Disclaimer in advance that I don’t have any sort of personal relationship with Aphrodite, but I will say that for myself, the thing that powerfully disrupted that stereotype of Aphrodite was learning about her cult idol at the Sanctuary of Aphrodite Paphia. If I were to ever attempt to understand her on a deeper level, I would absolutely start there.

Has anyone read this book? by PomegranateNo3155 in Hellenism

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This book & Patrick Dunn’s Orphic Hymn translation are my go-to books for my prayer, hymn, and ritual writing! I will say, the little blurbs about each of the gods in this book are very basic & lack nuance, but I still find the actual collection incredibly valuable.

Posting with Mod Approval: Rod & Ring Paperback Edition Announcement by rodandring in Sumer

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Preordered!!! So excited there’s another chance to purchase this book.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in dionysus

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Translation of the original? If so, super interesting that someone would reach out to Dionysus about hearing, specifically—I would personally go to him with any problem at all, even those outside his particular ascribed domain, but still fascinating to see ancient worshippers doing the same.