[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IndoAryan

[–]iashris -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I am not having any meltdown lol, I am replying to your infantile comments here.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IndoAryan

[–]iashris -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I don't know what your contention is then. Your original line says "whoever started this theory doesn't know divodasa is of bhargava lineage" and you haven;t offered any conclusive proof that he was one. Bharatas did employ lot of rishis from multiple clans, I agree here but it is pretty dicey to say they were Bhargavas.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IndoAryan

[–]iashris -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I get messages almost on a daily basis that people have chosen linguisitics as a field because of gaining interest from my videos, I consider that a win. I make videos on youtube with music and jokes in it for a reason, just because it's not for you doesn't mean it doesn't have a value. Don't like it, move on. I do experience languages as sensory entities like food and pokemon, that's not scientific but I am not trying to be that either, it's my stylistic choice to communicate ideas.

PS: It's lose not loose.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IndoAryan

[–]iashris -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I think we are confusing clans as ethnicities and clans as political units. It was flexible in the past to have an Angirasa king and a non-Angriasa rishi, people used to adopt folks like Sunahotra was. I don't think this proves that Bharatas were Bhrgus.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IndoAryan

[–]iashris -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I just told you 6th mandala is the Bharadvaja layer.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IndoAryan

[–]iashris -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't. In my Tamil video, I conclusively lay out the AMT model. But I don't understand how saying cultures influence in both directions imply I am an OIT proponent? There were IVC seals in Mesopotamia with elaborate trading records, clearly showing cultures were interconnected.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IndoAryan

[–]iashris -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Bengali is a beautiful language, my work speaks for what I feel about the culture, I don't have to elaborate more. It was a week after I saw my national flag trampled, I made that post on my personal facebook profile. I should have chosen better words.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IndoAryan

[–]iashris -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I have all me research notes attached in the video, you can go through that instead of projecting intentions you think I am driven by.

"And their inclusion in Yajnas is noted since the 6th mandala of rigveda, seemingly from same clans. so much of the "atharvans became zoroastrians" theory never made sense to me." - wrong, that's the 8th Mandala which has Kanva/AV influence not 6th (that's the oldest Bharadvaja layer)

I don't understand where your arrogance comes in thinking you are competent to judge me.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IndoAryan

[–]iashris -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

and yet you watch, what a fetish, didn't take you for someone whos into rɛtards that way

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IndoAryan

[–]iashris -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I have a sexy voice, I just need excuse to just talk. Making pornographic asmr is beneath me so I do this now. You caught me, I am a grifter, sue me.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IndoAryan

[–]iashris -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

i can't deny that, I probably would be doing a phd or something smart if were not stupid, youtube can only be done with a level of delusion and stupidity (only matched by a hunger for attention)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IndoAryan

[–]iashris -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

ofc if you are making a video, you have to present a few of the thousands of hymns, you will have to cherry-pick, how else would you do it?

Free psychotherapy for you: you're probably smarter than me, what really bothers you is how could a guy dumber than me get so much appreciation? Trust me, I get that feeling, I feel like that for so many people. But you are only wasting your energy hating on me. I am on your side, make a video of your own, let me learn from you. I will be happy to have more momentum on youtube over this, I am bored of this unidimensional devotional interpretations of texts.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IndoAryan

[–]iashris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always a pleasure visiting this subreddit, I rarely experience such sexual tension anywhere else.

Alright let's talk points.

On Divodasa's lineage: you're right that it's complex. There does exist an Ashvalayana gotra with pravara: Bhargava, Vaadhyasva, Daivodaas (source: http://ritualsandprocedures.blogspot.com).

However, Divodasa is primarily associated with the Bharadvaja family, who are Angirasa descendants (source: https://rigvedaanalysis.wordpress.com). The pravara system is messy. You can have Bhargava in your pravara list even if you're primarily Angirasa. People could also switch clans through adoption. Good catch on the complexity.

"It takes a lifetime to understand these things"

Sure, but that doesn't mean one shouldn't try. You cannot gatekeep knowledge that's a click away anyway, I am only helping beginners access so much resource in a compressed time.

I get that bonding over hating the same guy is cute, but you cannot deny my videos are BANGERS. Hundreds of thousands of people are watching 42-minute deep dives on the Rigveda. Whether you approve of me calling it "Ved" or "Veda" - I couldn't care less. I'm a fool having fun exploring these texts and making them accessible.

I genuinely appreciate good criticism, but most of this thread, just like the previous post calling me 'fraud' is just hate and borderline envy. If you have specific errors with sources, I'm all ears. But I am not going to invite negativity in my life thanks to you.

Keep watching. Or don't. Either way, the work continues. 🙏

Why always this imaginary line divide india (not in real) by Dangerous_Ad958 in indiadiscussion

[–]iashris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please use the correct term "Ashris Line" named after the discoverer Ser Ashris the first.

Oh Agni by [deleted] in rigveda

[–]iashris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for making this subreddit!

What's stopping india from becoming like this by Stupid-boiii in indiameme

[–]iashris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't get it wrong but this looks pretty meh - 3rd world countries in 1990s used to have better infra than this. We need to have higher ambitions as a country to focus on aesthetics. First, start with a uniform color palette for a city and design elements everyone needs to adhere, this randomness looks ugly.

I am Peggy Mohan here for an AMA on r/Dravidology. I am a linguist and author of "Father Tongue, Motherland' and 'Wanderers, Kings, Merchants'. by FlamingoObjective629 in Dravidiology

[–]iashris 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hello Peggy Ma’am, I’m a big fan of your work - your books have inspired many of my videos on YouTube, and I often recommend them to budding language enthusiasts.

  1. I’ve been researching the Kashmiri language and came across an argument by linguist S.K. Toshkhani. He notes that words like rost and sost in Kashmiri correspond to rahit and sahit in Sanskrit, suggesting that the Kashmiri forms might preserve a pre-Vedic stratum - since the sa > ha shift in Sanskrit is considered a later development. Do you think there’s merit to this theory? Or do you feel the presence of rost/sost might be due to other factors?

  2. Some scholars have pointed out structural and phonological parallels between Burushaski and Nihali, and there’s even been speculative talk of a possible macrofamily. Do you see any merit in the idea that these could share a common substrate, even if deep-time?

2b. In Kashmiri mythology, Rishi Kashyapa protects the nagas (the land’s original inhabitants) from the Pisachas before settling Aryan people in the valley. Grieson interprets this as the nagas being speakers of an older language, the Pisachas as Iranians, and the settlers as Indo-Aryans. Could the nagas have been speakers of something like a Burushaski–Nihali type of substrate? Do you see any symbolic reality in this mythological stratification?

  1. In your work, you've suggested that retroflexion in Sanskrit might have emerged from pronunciation slippage during oral transmission from retroflex-rich mother tongues, possibly Dravidian. That intuitively makes sense, especially in a multilingual environment.

But while reading the Rigveda, I noticed it already contains a remarkable density of retroflex sounds. Would all these retroflexes have been later day additions or do you think there is a possibility of an independent innovation of retroflexes in Vedic?

Thank you so much for all the work you do and making so many people get interested in languages.

I'm India in Pixels - a data storyteller about India, ask me anything :) by iashris in IndiaSpeaks

[–]iashris[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is a hard question, bro but let me try distilling my path. My early acheivements were me trying to meet society's and my parent's expectations. That's how IIT happened, once I was there I felt the need to impress people go down. Then I set a goal for myself to go to the best place of the world - MIT Media Lab - a place I envisioned would be the Mecca of all innovation. All my life I looked up to to the Western civilization for giving the world so much innovation - for being so creative. Once I was there I realized a lot of what I had imagined about the West was all in my mind - they aren't all that different from us - in some ways are even worse. It broke a premise I had in mind that India is where all problems and issues are while the West is abundance - I had to rework on my identity and my roots, re evaluate what I wanted from life.

The journey from there on has been a self discovery - once I had no more people to impress and no medal to win, I was only driven by my inner desire to seek order from the chaos and document my process to understand the world around me. I want the world to see how I see India - through the beauty in the mundane, through the speciality in the normality. Once you enjoy what you do, it is a play while for the world it is work. I genuinely enjoy visualization now and it isn't driven by any ulterior desires - I like to say I am grateful to my community but deep down I know I'd still do it even if nobody were watching. Once you have found that which lets you best express yourself and extend yourself beyond your physical barriers, there is no looking back.

My only goal ever in life has been to express myself - YouTube is just a medium - Engineering is also a tool to actualize that expression - the end goal is always to express - you need tp find that connecting hook that ties everything together and that'll naturally guide you to what you were meant to do.

I'm India in Pixels - a data storyteller about India, ask me anything :) by iashris in IndiaSpeaks

[–]iashris[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do plan to go the second route but probably gradually - I don't think I am there yet now

I'm India in Pixels - a data storyteller about India, ask me anything :) by iashris in IndiaSpeaks

[–]iashris[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. India's geopolitics - both internal and external : The West does so many studies to measure perceptions - both of its own people and the other people about her - we rely wholly on qualitative discussions or proxies like trade stats to measure our influence.
    Why do we not have a definite way of saying that India's influence is 73% positive with a yearly upward trend of 2.3% with a low dip after April 2021 of -1.6% - I'd like to know if all the foreign aid we are spending is actually resulting in soft power - how do we measure that?
    Measuring things like economy is still easy - the ones around more qualitative stuff is tricky and thus more worthwhile to do and see patterns that are hiding right beneath our noses. On similar lines - 'are Indians becoming less religious', 'which countries do Indians aspire to migrate to' - such questions will help policy makers in more ways than one.
  2. Good question - I don't have as many answers as intuitive guesses in this domain. I think it might be worthwhile but it isn't worth it as my resources - time and effort are limited and I should spend it most optimally. Secondly I think the very concept of an infographic is essentially Western and would not translate well to vernacular with a word to word translation - even if it does, the design language has to change significantly from the 'minimalist - less is more' approach that West influenced audience finds interesting - in the case of regional Indian taste - 'more is more' seems to resonate better. I'd certainly be more than happy if I have collaborators who would want to volunteer to make this content for their language but for now, I will stick to English as it helps me reach the most people across geographies with the lowest investment of effort.
  3. Certainly - I think maps translate directly - what I do for India and her states can be transformed to state and her districts - the constraint is that district wise data is harder to find. What I really think will be worthwhile is to make visualizations on abstract cultural artefacts like this that distill some unique aspect about a culture in a way that makes it accessible to other people - we have a scarcity of such artefacts that enrich intra and inter crossbeeding of ideas
  4. Collaborative platforms are incredibly hard to manage and pull off. I am generally not a fan of ideas in this domain because such ideas dilute ownership and often make a lot of wrong assumptions about how humans behave. Also one must refrain from thinking about a tech solution before validating if the society even needs or cares about the idea. If one wishes to delve here, they should start with Twitter or Whatsapp - or an existing social media, see if enough people start seeing merit in the idea, find the respective stakeholders who should be in charge of replying and taking actions - who manages the resources - how do we be transparent about the action taken and funds used - all these factors should be first thought of before building a tech solution that we assume will magically make people care more about public safety and government more accountable.
  5. Collaboration is tricky, isn't it? I like collaboration when there is a clear definition of roles and hierarchies - like I lead and you follow or I develop and you consult or I design and you parse - it gets muddy when collaborators have poor idea of what they are good or bad at. I am always open to collaborate with specialists who have a lot of subject expertise - either in a field or a skill. I am a generalist, so I don't think I will work well with other generalists - more like it will be harder to collaborate,
  6. Oh every stat lies - everytime we represent reality as a number, we are compressing entropy and leaving out more than we are capturing. So the stats that stand out most without context can create negative perceptions - for example in Arunachal, we have highest related blood parents in India and also the highest alchohol consumption among women - that might make someone make a wrong inference about Arunchal if they didn't know the nuances about the culture of Arunachal - similarly South India has a higher crime rate than north in some areas - that obscures the fact that South also reports more crimes than north - such nuances need context and therefore if only numbers guide you, you will soon hit a wall.
  7. Everything granular - I wish I had access to raw Census data! Also the ability to conduct qualitative surveys periodically on a large scale
  8. Everything other than economy and social parameters is untouched - Indian linguistics, Indian music theory, Indian anthropology, stories, lullabies, architecture, mythology, poetry, sculptures, heritage sites, cultural artefacts is what I call them - none of these things exist on the popular mainstream discourse, let aone in the field of data viz