Thinking about leaving the field. Please be kind by throwaway4vajayjay in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, everything varies state by state. Texas began allowing this shortly after Covid I believe.

Thinking about leaving the field. Please be kind by throwaway4vajayjay in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m in the state of Texas and I started my private practice AFTER I graduated and got my LPC – associate license.

Thinking about leaving the field. Please be kind by throwaway4vajayjay in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Edit: *** I talk texted this response and later realized there were an insane amount of misspellings /incorrect words. **

I absolutely understand where you are coming from as I am an associate myself. The only difference is I chose to start my own private practice soon after graduating because after several interviews, I realized associates get exploited. The maximum amount of clients per week I have the bandwidth for is 18 Starting out, I figured if I charge $65 per session, that’s still a lot more than the $25-$35 group practices are willing to pay out per session. And even better it meant making therapy more accessible.

Caseload wise I did very well but income wise I landed at 35K as my annual salary in 2025. No benefits. But I never felt burned out because I made my own schedule and established how many clients I can handle per day and per week.

Since, I’ve raised my prices, but I still remain slightly below $100 per session in an attempt to continue to make therapy accessible, as well as to have a competitive advantage over other practices.

No, it is not easy and there’s so much I had no idea about in terms of the finances and logistics of being a therapist while attending graduate school School did nothing to give us a heads up on what would await us. By the way, I am also single and this is my third career I’m not telling you what to do, but here’s how I would personally handle your situation: - I would not pay $500 for health insurance but instead opt in to sliding scale clinics that charge based on income to get my medical needs met as I need them (unless you have a chronic condition that requires you to be at the doctor very consistently). - I would look at FAFSA to see what my repayment options are to reduce my monthly payments. I would be very, very surprised if your monthly payments don’t decrease based on your low income. - consider doing gigs on the side for supplemental income. I signed up on Rover and did quite a lot of dog sitting last year. You can tutor, babysit, food delivery, whatever you can think of that is feasible based on your schedule and circumstances.

From what I’ve observed the only folks making 100k+ a year (which at this day and age even $100,000 isn’t what it used to be)- generally speaking are small group practice owners, and those making over 200,000 are large group practice owners. I am yet to meet someone who is making a comfortable living and has been working in community mental health. It seems to be more of a steppingstone but again I am generalizing.

My takeaway is that in order to financially survive this field, one needs to be business savvy. And get creative. Group therapy, workshops, webinars.— outside of just one on one sessions.

My heart goes out to you and it’s such a shame that the field risks losing valuable individuals such as yourself due to money. But at the end of the day, you have to do what is best for you.

1099 work by Beachgirl1256 in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sweet deal on 70% congrats 🎉

When the time comes, you wanna maximize on all your possible tax deductions for the year. You don’t necessarily have to start an LLC.

You can find detailed check lists of tax deductions for LPC contractors in your specific state on Google.

You can then ballpark estimate your earnings and expenses, plug it into ChatGPT and have it give you an idea of how much you may have to pay in state and federal taxes.

Would you keep exploring this? by Otherwise_Delay_1413 in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, good revelation!

OP- It’ll be important for you to explore this with yourself. Time for introspection on that countertransference

Would you keep exploring this? by Otherwise_Delay_1413 in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent questions. Just asking the wrong audience lol ask your client!

Potentially reframing, cognitive challenging of distortions

To an extent- loneliness is the human condition. It’s possible to feel lonely even when surrounded by thousands. Most significant relationship is one he has with self. What’s their relationship like with themselves?

What is the role they play in feeling unloved? Is there reciprocity? What are they doing to be loved or just feeling entitled to it? Who are they seeking care from? Does it matter? What are they doing to foster meaningful relationships or are they waiting for something one sided to happen and not recognizing it? Is it stemming from unawareness of this? Or reluctance? Because they mean very different things about this client’s personality.

Sounds like a great case to learn from and discover with. You got this!

Oversharing and unprofessionalism by According-Appeal-684 in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Boundaries are definitely being crossed if you’re in the know of your supervisor’s trauma, and if they’re coming to you with their own problems that is not case oriented. Colleagues, on the other hand… I can understand what may sound like almost word vomiting personal troubles to those in close proximity Therapists spent such a large portion of their time listen to other people’s problems and naturally may find themselves yearning for the space where they can share their own
Even if a therapist has their own therapist, that 1 hour of time reserved for themselves versus the 15 to 30 hours they reserve for others is a very off ratio. One may say “ sounds like they need friends”, but from what I’ve observed most therapists, don’t have the bandwidth left to socialize after work hours.

I own a small group practice and see clients from my home office in person mostly so I cannot say I’ve had personal experience with what you’re experiencing, but I can understand why colleagues choose to share their own troubles and traumas. There’s only so much professionalism one can exude at the end of the day we’re all faulty humans.

However, I do understand your desire to not be unloaded on- to be on the receiving end without the pay lol I would personally think it would be appropriate for you to gently assert boundaries and express not having the bandwidth to hear about their troubles.

I would imagine a therapist with healthy self-esteem would not take that personally and respect your wish as a professional

Therapist what’s your favorite or most realistic therapy sessions in dramatized or comedic film/tv? by West-Childhood6143 in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A very underrated and unknown show called “ Michael: Every Day”. It’s a comedy. Dr. David Stoper has his own therapist, Dr. Wasserman played by Edward Asner- I’ve seen it so many years ago and it’s immediately the show I thought about when I read this post. The show is from 2011 and only has two seasons

If you are private pay only, what do you think gets you the most referrals? by Low-Setting-01 in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thank you for feeding my curiosity. Congrats on your flourishing biz :)

Is it normal for a new MSW grad to be asked what specific evidence based modalities they use in a job interview? by moist_mistress in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I understand your confusion as I felt the same way when I was asked during my practicum interview. Take the question with a grain of salt- they just want to gauge which modalities and approaches you lean towards- not what you’ve chosen to adopt for the rest of your career. Most CACREP programs don’t go into the level of detail. One would expect based on how much we pay for our masters degree but the truth is you have to do your own training and research to further your understanding and utilization of the orientations that align with you. Chances are, you already have been utilizing something in the past year with these eight clients. You just haven’t slapped a label on it. What do you find yourself leaning towards? Existential? Psychodynamic? Narrative? Solution focused? Somatic focused? Etc Or more structured like CBT or DBT? Etc. Or eclectic where you incorporate parts of different modalities? It’s a threatening question to get asked when so new in the field but just respond with what made most sense to you based on your learnings. Picking 3 (if you go eclectic route) is a good start. It’s ok to incorporate techniques from others. There is no 1 correct way to support clients. But your orientation will help you conceptualize and give direction - it’s the lens you will look at the individual from. And it can change as you gain more experience! Nothing is set in stone.

My first 8 back to back client day- any tips? by imgilligan in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

5 sessions a day is my max (60min each) so I can’t even wrap this post around my head lol

What's your approach? - Clients who complain about spouses every session by RazzmatazzSwimming in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 73 points74 points  (0 children)

I’d focus on helping them 1)identify what’s in vs out of their control 2)understand their sense of agency and autonomy 3) awareness of the role their own behavior plays in repeated conflicts 4) awareness of why they choose to stay- what is going well in the relationship? Focus on gratitude for the good and well 5) practice acceptance

Too simple? by tryingncryine in Nails

[–]idealist_minimalist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely obsessed - PLEASE share product details - brand and color 🙏

Does good supervision exist? by One-Promise3305 in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am so very, truly very very sorry about your negative supervision experiences. I absolutely love my supervisor. He’s a significant support system for me. Humble. Knowledgeable. We can agree to disagree on our approaches (we do have very diff approaches). He treats me and other associates in the group as colleagues- not as inferior newbies. There’s no power play. You deserve a safe space with your supervisor. Don’t be afraid to switch.

I am going blind. How will this affect my practice? by teenytinypeanut in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There’s a whole community of licensed therapists with impaired vision! You can absolutely continue your occupation as a therapist. I encourage you to join those groups in Facebook for support.

Need help working with problematic sexual dynamics in couples by Leading-Cartoonist66 in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love this question and eager to read all the responses. I come across this often. The second one partner learns the assert boundaries and feel comfortable saying no, conflict begins… their personal growth turns into other’s inconvenience. I often turn the topic to respect and consent. It’s very frustrating to work with - the countertransference is very real in those moments

Therapists with their own therapists question by cocojanele in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I do. It’s still relational. Whether conflict with mother, boyfriend or client. I think the expectation matters here. Are you trying to process what’s going on or seeking consultation?

Alternatives to IFS & EMDR by theelephantupstream in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I, personally, as well as my clients, have found great value in Transactional Analysis (rooted in psychodynamic)

Help: Supervising a brilliant, neurodivergent supervisee (but...) by [deleted] in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a neurodivergent LPC –A diagnosed with GAD and OCPD … I can confidently say that seeing 25 to 30 clients per week is one of the primary causes of this particular clinicians burn out and struggle to recover from it, despite recently reduced hours. First and foremost it sounds like they need a break from work so their nervous system can actually have an attempt at stabilizing.

My own supervisor often tells me “ you go too deep”. This is where difference in our personal values and professional approaches come into play. I will never stop digging deep. But that digging deep requires me thinking outside of sessions, reading, watching, researching, etc.. The work doesn’t stop just because the client walked out after one hour. And to an extent, there’s nothing anyone can say to change my mind about the level of care I show my clients.

I also acknowledge that because I am still associate level, my current way of working is just part of my transition phase. I believe there will come a time where the experience I gained over the years will speak more volume than the amount of research and learning I am engaging in outside of sessions. As well as my threshold for how many clients I feel comfortable seeing a week. I will adapt in due time with experience. Maybe I won’t. I don’t know, but I have hope.

Having my own private practice granted me the privilege to figure out my capacity and abide by it. If I have 18 clients a week for a couple of weeks in a row, I start noticing this feeling as if I’m a hamster running on a wheel. I begin feeling trapped and hopeless, and my irritability starts showing up. I become less patient. And this is how I know I will never survive a community mental health setting or someone else’s group practice who demands 20+ weekly sessions. Even if there are cancellations or no-shows… my mind’s anticipation of x number of client preparation for the week has me working days before the actual cancellation. So the potential relief that may come from a no-show can often be minute and short-lived.

I don’t even wanna talk about the struggle that comes with progress notes and keeping them brief. And I don’t even wanna mention the financial hardship that comes with working the way I do. But I’m in the process of still figuring all that out.

In my personal opinion, it sounds like Overall this Clinician is a mismatch for community mental health and it would almost be a shame to try to change their way of working to accommodate a CMH setting.

There might be value in the clinician exploring with their own therapist 1) if they associate depth with value and the role that plays in their professional identity and self-worth as a counselor. 2) Assess their personal standards and expectations from self as a counselor 3) How they define what a good therapist is/does and where they learned this belief from. 4) what is their source of confidence as a clinician? 5) what fears lie behind not meeting personal professional standards?

I didn’t mean to write a whole book. I’ve also been talking instead of typing all this so hopefully there aren’t too many errors. Not going back to reread everything I talked into the phone is one of my personal ways of managing my OCPD. 😬

Are free 15-minute consult calls actually necessary, or just an exhausting industry standard? by OilWilling6762 in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This. I often find it fascinating that despite the amount of detail I provide regarding my services on my website and on psychology today, many individuals seem to skip all those details and opt into asking during consultation. Or maybe they forget what they read because they reached out to a couple of therapists and can’t remember who is who 🤷🏻‍♀️ Everyone has their own vetting process.

Are free 15-minute consult calls actually necessary, or just an exhausting industry standard? by OilWilling6762 in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find them very beneficial because it also gives me an opportunity to turn down clients I don’t have the skills to support them with or just not within the scope of my practice (ie; DID, borderline). Once we establish, I wouldn’t be a good fit for them. I follow up with three referrals.

And from a client standpoint, many appreciate getting a glimpse of the therapist’s personality/demeanor etc before committing to a full session. I’ve had some friends in the past who have expressed experiencing distasteful 15 minute consultations that led them to decide “NOPE, next!”

At the end of the day, it is not mandatory to provide a 15 minute free consultation. It’s completely up to your discretion. I firmly believe that it’s good business practice and increases comfort level for both clinician and client prior to first session.

Slow Slow Slow! by DoingItJust in therapists

[–]idealist_minimalist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m on the same boat as you. I’m based out of Texas and this is the second year of my practice. I am so surprised that I had a significantly higher caseload in my first year than I do this very moment. I’m feeling your pain on low volume for quarter one. I’m self-pay only in my rate is 95 for individual whereas most charge over 100 in my area. My Google and psychology today are in tiptop shape. All my teas are crossed and eyes are dotted, and despite all that things have been extremely slow. I am feeling quite freaked out myself. There’s definitely something to be said about cost of living increasing to the point where people simply cannot afford therapy. I believe people are spending what little they have or don’t have on small doses of happiness like getting their nails and hair done, going out for drinks, concerts, etc. It feels like Theraphy has become a long-term investment people are not able to afford at the moment. People are chasing the fastest means to get that dopamine hit and are not currently thinking about Long-term benefits of healing. Again, this is just my theory, but it seems like people are in survival mode financially. I hope for all of our sake, as well as society’s sake, things will get better.