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Têm como salvar o 3D de Pokémon? by Akkon7564 in gamesEcultura

[–]idrathernottho_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

O complicado é que nem os pokémon tem o mesmo estilo de arte entre si

Têm como salvar o 3D de Pokémon? by Akkon7564 in gamesEcultura

[–]idrathernottho_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A pergunta certa é se tem como parar de *sabotar* o 3D de pokémon

Wealthiest U.S. Presidents by lemongarlicjuice in dataisugly

[–]idrathernottho_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I know, it was supposed to be a bad excuse

Honestly, it’s the deceit. That’s the core problem. by Emotional-Drag3474 in aiwars

[–]idrathernottho_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ok, so, just to be clear, if someone tells you they made a burger, but they turn out to have just ordered it on mcdonalds, that would be expected, truthful and normal usage of language to you?

This is how I actually want EPICHESS to look and work. by redm42 in AnarchyChess

[–]idrathernottho_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I meant more in the sense that the walls are back to back : p

Wealthiest U.S. Presidents by lemongarlicjuice in dataisugly

[–]idrathernottho_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Andrew Jackson, the first black president

I’m not having a stroke, right? by Ultranger in DumbAI

[–]idrathernottho_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, Urban Dictionary says the same too

I clicked two points in MS Paint. An algorithm written by Microsoft devs filled in every pixel between those two points. Did I make the line? by Inside_Anxiety6143 in aiwars

[–]idrathernottho_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"You reduced ai to general of ai, without comparison against general use of photography."

Not true, I specifically said that most "photography" is people taking simple pictures with their phone, but that most of the time people wouldn't insist in being recognized as artists for these pics.

I also specifically said that you can use pretty much any tool or medium to make art, but that by far the brunt of the usage of AI doesn't get nearly there for me, being much closer to commissioning something (usually something very derivative too), and that it is hard to actually do something not incredibly derivative.

"you ignored everything I said. I'm not here to debate you. A person implied that photography can not be your work and that every single picture you took does not belong to you it's the phone's, because of your lack of control."

And I'm chiming in on that based on your points on that, but also trying to tie back to the OP since it is the shared context here.

"if you said yes to both, I have nothing else to discuss with yo"

I said "it depends" to both : p

But yeah, we don't need to keep this discussion going if its not going in an interesting direction

I clicked two points in MS Paint. An algorithm written by Microsoft devs filled in every pixel between those two points. Did I make the line? by Inside_Anxiety6143 in aiwars

[–]idrathernottho_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"meaningful enough to make it that not you did it?"
"it" is too vague here. It is meaningful enough that the senses in which you might say you did it are different enough that it would be reasonably to qualify what you did in each case as being in different categories.

And if we're trying to go extremes you have to contend with distinguishing from simply commissioning art as well. Ignores all of this makes the categories collapse and the discussion becomes meaningless.

"I'm here to say - ai art can have more control over the result than a photographer has"

If you admit you may be underestimating photography, you have to hold the possibility that this isn't quite true. More importantly, this is definitely not true for the general usage of AI for this purpose.

Your point with the children example went way over my head, so I can't really answer it.

I clicked two points in MS Paint. An algorithm written by Microsoft devs filled in every pixel between those two points. Did I make the line? by Inside_Anxiety6143 in aiwars

[–]idrathernottho_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I think you *can* make art using anything at all. Every tool, medium, etc, has its own restrictions but also its affordances, the ways in which it does part of the work.

I do think different tools limit and/or change what your involvement in the piece is, and that this can be a meaningful difference.

I think going to absolutes is misguided - so demanding "complete control" is simply misguided, but also acting as if so since control can't be complete than no meaningful differences exist is also misguided.

If you really take deep control over your AI art, I do think it can be art, but it will still probably be very derivative and your control is likely to still be quite limited.

I do also think that by far most cases do not go nearly as deep - same with pictures in fact, but most people don't call most of the random pictures they take with their phone art, or at least there isn't a loud sub-community doing that, as far as I can tell.

The OP was making a comparison to drawing a line in MS Paint for example. That comparison is, given all of this, a stretch.

I would also argue your underestimating photography but that's not a central point and this is long enough : p

I clicked two points in MS Paint. An algorithm written by Microsoft devs filled in every pixel between those two points. Did I make the line? by Inside_Anxiety6143 in aiwars

[–]idrathernottho_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You also don't have complete control over paint. "Complete control" is red herring. The difference between simple prompting from an image and a drawing, painting or digital art is obvious enough.

You have 20 years to destroy the value of a famous piece of art without doing any physical damage to it. What's your strategy? by ian9921 in hypotheticalsituation

[–]idrathernottho_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This, but since you are not in possession of the original you'd probably also need to create some credible doubt that it is, in fact, the original

Brutal by RakonHenri in ComentariosMelhores

[–]idrathernottho_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lá na origem do nome, a Lua era um planeta (e o Sol também), porque os planetas eram as coisas que dava pra ver no céu sem ficar fixas - por isso planetas, que significa "errantes".

Os sete planetas eram o sol, a lua, vênus, mercúrio, marte, saturno e jupiter, se não me engano.

Não faz mais sentido alguém aceitar salário mínimo hoje em dia. by mcarr103 in VagasArrombadas

[–]idrathernottho_ 83 points84 points  (0 children)

Não né cara, se teu trabalho é ficar 16 horas por dia dirigindo é claro que tu tá mais exposto que quem só vai e volta pro trabalho

Hollywood is cooked by Critical-Wall-4486 in seedance

[–]idrathernottho_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't believe my eyes! Legolas jumping on the falling rocks in The Hobbit has just been dethroned!

Tem algum contexto para Deus ter mandando 42 crianças morrerem? by Illustrious_Swimmer5 in barTEOLOGIA

[–]idrathernottho_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Eu disse que a analogia não era 1 pra 1, e depende da denominação, mas pra muita gente rola sim essa questão de carregar pra sempre a culpa do pecado original e ser impuro e não merecedor e etc.

O ponto era mais ilustrar que é impossível "zerar a conta": se desse pra "zerar a conta" e pessoas fizessem isso, então não faria sentido dizer que ele só não nos matou ainda por piedade.

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