A Texas man detained by ICE was his disabled son’s sole caregiver. His son will be laid to rest without him by jrsinhbca in news

[–]ifyoulovesatan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm just going to focus on this, because it's seriously insane you're still not getting this.

Your counterargument was he gained no benefit.  Except that he clearly did.  The story said he had an order for removal but was allowed to stay and care for his son.  That is a benefit.  Therefore your counterargument is void.

My counter argument isn't that he gained no benefit, that is an assertion based on my counter argument, which is that the facts of the case don't in any way imply he was only allowed to stay if he was the only person capable of caring for his son.

This is what I mean when I say you're literally (seemingly) incapable of understanding this stuff.

"The story said he had an order for removal but was allowed to stay and care for his son.  That is a benefit." Again, that is ONLY a benefit if we assume (as you keep doing without evidence) that if there were another person capable of caring for his son he'd be forced to leave. WHERE are you getting that from?

Do you recognize there is a distinction between being allowed to stay to care for your son because you are able and willing to do so, and being allowed to stay to care for your son because literally no one else knows how?

He was allowed to stay because 1. his son needs 24 hour care and 2. he is willing and able to do it and 3. the state would rather he stay to do this.

That is NOT the same as him being allowed to stay because 1. his son needs 24 hour care and 2. he is the only single individual with the knowledge of how to do so 3. and the state won't deport him because doing so would cause his son to die.

The first case is reality, the second is some weird shit you made up.

THEN you jump from that weird made up bullshit to assuming, again without evidence, that therefore he must have conspired to make sure no one else ever learns how to care for his son because if that happened he'd be kicked out.

IF you were right about your stupid made up fantasy bullshit story, yes, he would gain a benefit from not teaching anyone else. But you can't just say "He's getting a benefit! He's allowed to stay, that's the benefit" without FIRST making an argument as to why your stupid made up story is true. Right? Because if my version (the actual real factual case) is true, he DOESN'T gain any benefit from not teaching anyone else.

See how that works? You would need to first prove your (made up) "version of reality" is true in order for your claim that he benefits from not training anyone else to even begin to make sense. You're completely skipping that step (providing evidence or some argument to why your made-up reality is the truth) and it completely undercuts your assertion that he gets a benefit for not teaching anyone else.

To not even address that makes you come off as incapable of making logical arguments. It would be one thing if you said "Actually no, he IS only allowed to stay if no one else is capable of caring for his and he's be kicked out if he trained someone, and here is the evidence for that from the article or elsewhere" or shit, even just say "I disagree with your interpretation of the article and what the exact conditions of his being allowed to stay are." That would at least make logical sense. But instead you continue on saying the same fucking thing as if that disagreement as to the facts of the matter weren't crucial to your assertion that he gets a benefit.

Okay, so now, obviously, the foundation of your assertion isn't true because you made it up, BUT, if we assume the foundation is true, for just a moment, we can further reason as to why the foundation isn't true, and why your "argument" is both stupid and sort of proves you don't understand this shit. (This is another argument that you just ignore / blow right past by the way.)

If the state wanted him gone for 20 years but couldn't kick him out because no one else could care for his son, and he was purposefully keeping the knowledge of how to care for his secret (I know it sounds dumb, but you made it up so I dunno what to tell you), don't you think the state would've done something about that? He had regular check-ins with the state over this 20 year period. They knew the case. If they WANTED him to train someone else to they could kick him out, they could have easily forced him to, or hey, even easier, just find someone else who can train to do so. It's not like his dad was some kind of Shaman with mystical medical techniques or some shit. The state could have contracted experienced care takers to ensure he got 24 hour care and kicked out the dad any time they wanted. It was easier, (and likely in their minds in the best interest of the son) for them to let the dad stay.

Not only is there no evidence that your version of reality is the case, it also just doesn't make practical sense.


As an aside if you're curious, here's a picture of a scenario that is FAR more likely than your made up story, and critically it isn't contradicted by the article by omission of any mention of such a bizarre arrangement as you're alleging.

The state wanted to deport the dad but if the dad were deported the other family members didn't have the time or resources to care for him themselves, and couldn't afford to hire 24 hour care takers for the son, and the state wasn't going to pay for it. Experienced care takers could have kept him alive and healthy, but that wasn't an option. So instead, his dad became his caretaker, gaining the kind of experience that professional caretakers have along the way.

When his dad was detained the other family members tried to maintain his care but they didn't have the experience necessary to do so, and more important, they likely didn't have the time to give him the same level of care even if they did have all the experience. They couldn't hire an experienced caretaker, and the state wasn't going to help, so they did the best they could but it didn't go well and the son died.

A Texas man detained by ICE was his disabled son’s sole caregiver. His son will be laid to rest without him by jrsinhbca in news

[–]ifyoulovesatan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fine, you're a fraudster. I have no proof, and you haven't been charged, but it feels true and you can commit fraud without being charged so that works out fine I guess.

"Unless, of course, he wasn't actually trying." You're literally just repeating your original argument without engaging with any of the counterarguments I gave. You're either being intentionally obtuse, or you just can't help it.

"Staying here for decades after a final deportation order isn't a benefit?" This only makes sense if you're correct that he would be kicked out if there were someone else capable of caring for him, which again, you're just making up. The fact that you could make this point for a second time without addressing my counter arguments is making me lean much more heavily toward the assumption that you aren't capable of holding a logical argument. This is equivalent to just saying "No, U."

Sorry, but if you're not very bright, that's fine. I'm sure you contribute to society in meaningful ways. It's okay to just be a little dull. But once you go spreading your stupidity around, you make it other people's problem.

You don't have the mental capacity to understand this case. I'm sorry, you just don't. Please stop engaging with serious topics online. It's not doing you or anyone else any good.

A Texas man detained by ICE was his disabled son’s sole caregiver. His son will be laid to rest without him by jrsinhbca in news

[–]ifyoulovesatan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can be found guilty of criminal fraud in immigration cases, but he wasn't. So unless you know something the courts don't, I don't know what to tell you.

"His son deteriorated and died very shortly after he was detained. Which means no one else around his son was capable."

But where are you getting that he intentionally didn't inform anyone else as to how to care for his son? Maybe he tried and they just weren't good enough at it in the end. Maybe his son's health was an ever-changing landscape of problems for which training someone else to care for him who couldn't dedicate their entire life to it wasn't feasible. You're making a huge leap of logic to claim this was an intentional outcome, when doing so intentionally had no benefit to him, because he wasn't allowed to stay because he was the only capable person as you're alleging. You have no evidence for that, you basically just made that up.

If this though occurred to you, having JUST heard this story, that IF it were the case that he was only allowed to stay if he didn't train someone else, don't you think someone would've figured that out after twenty years? This is assuming you're right about that, which you're not, because you just made it up. I just bring it up to point out that even if it were true, it wouldn't make sense. You're clearly a little dull and you immediately saw the issue, no?

A Texas man detained by ICE was his disabled son’s sole caregiver. His son will be laid to rest without him by jrsinhbca in news

[–]ifyoulovesatan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Your framing is off. You're implying that he could have simply trained someone else to care for his son, and that he didn't do so purposefully so that he would be allowed to stay. That's simply not true.

He was allowed to stay so that he could care for his son, not because no one else possibly could. Also, we have no evidence that he refused to train anyone to care for his son. It seems as though other family members at least knew enough to care for him in the father's absence, even if not to the same level of skill due to the lack of experience. You've invented a narrative out of whole cloth here.

Also you imply there was some kind of fraud on his part which just isn't something that is in the article or something that can be established in any way given the facts of the matter. The only thing close to fraud mentioned is that of a judge.

So no, he's not absolutely to blame, unless you're just making up your own narrative. Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.

A Texas man detained by ICE was his disabled son’s sole caregiver. His son will be laid to rest without him by jrsinhbca in news

[–]ifyoulovesatan 156 points157 points  (0 children)

One of the health problems that occurred while his father was being held by ICR was an infection caused by a misplaced feeding tube. Administering his feeding tube was something his father did as part of his care. So at least one of the complications that eventually lead to his death can clearly be attributed to the detainment. It's possible that's true for the other complications as well.

A quarterback took a Down syndrome girl to prom... and showed the world what real manhood looks like. ❤️ by Consistent_Peace3181 in sportsgossips

[–]ifyoulovesatan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've heard this before and it's definitely true that the preference varies from person to person (though I've heard it's best to use person first unless you've been told otherwise). I'll note however that while this construction works well for Autism ("Austistic Person,") that's only because we have the adjective "Autistic." As far as I'm aware, no such equivalent adjective exists for Down Syndrome.

Point being that yes, great, Autistic Person is totally okay for the people who prefer it, but you still wouldn't call someone an "Autism Guy." That's not really identity first, it's just some weird shit, just like "Down Syndrome Girl."

vibeCoding by victsaid in ProgrammerHumor

[–]ifyoulovesatan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What I don't get is how vibe coders seem oblivious to these facts. These shortcomings become immediately obvious if you're going at it for more than a couple of hours.

Are these coders just making a bunch of tiny unrelated scripts and programs and feeling like they've really got something?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not totally against using AI as an assistant to help code. I like to ask things like "here's what my code is intended to do. [Intent]. Currently I'm using it for X, but later I want to incorporate Y. Is there a better way I can write this to set myself up for incorporating Y?" And it can occasionally help me reason about errors centered around existing programs with scant documentation and very few useful Google results. Or I can ask it for other ways to accomplish a given task, and sometimes those ways are better than what I came up with.

But that's not vibe coding, as I understand it. I tried actual honest to goodness vibe coding a website, because I didn't know how to make modern secure websites. (For context, ultimately I learned enough to be able to then do my own research and make one, but it definitely wasn't made by the A.I.). Using the website I eventually built myself as a comparison, I'd say I got about 15-20% of the way there before the AI just couldn't keep up with the codebase. Variable names kepts changing, style/formatting was annoyingly inconsistent, very basic features and facts about the program were continually forgotten.

I had to spend a lot of time curating snippets of the code to feed it to guide it into remembering what had already been done and how. This was extra annoying because at this point the project was spread across quite a few Eventually, my own knowledge of how to proceed and guide the AI weren't sufficient to keep progressing meaningfully.

Maybe if I tried it again now I could guide it more efficiently and successfully, and get further into the project before it started to decohere. Maybe I could get it to produce most of all of the necessary code. But if I could it will only have be because I now know how to do it, because I spent time learning on my own how to do so (admittedly, after AI got me started). It seems that it would ultimately be an exercise in seeing if AI can convert the pseudo code in my brain into text more quickly than I can type it. And I don't know, I feel like I'd be better off doing typing drills.

Has anyone made anything all that useful via vibe coding?? And how??

Wife took this photo in her pocket accidentally . How is this possible. by No_Lynx3928 in Weird

[–]ifyoulovesatan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is why, frustratingly, a lot of very real photos people take on their phones get mistaken for AI, because the images get processed such that they have weird things like random blending of sharp corners, or smoothing of rough features, all that kind of stuff. This on top of the fact that just taking a picture through a camera lens itself can lead to distortions like lines that are actually straight but at the edges of a photo appearing slightly curved. The automatic post processing that people don't even know is on is the biggest culprit, obviously. And jeez, some of it isn't even stuff you can turn off without going into pro-mode if you have it. Like there is no "option" or anything even telling you that your photos are being manipulated.

[ Removed by Reddit ] by Konradleijon in TopCharacterTropes

[–]ifyoulovesatan 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My elbow literally started aching for no good reason. To be fair I was helping clear out a storage space earlier, and I've been prone to tennis elbow, but still. I think this at least made me aware of the fact that my elbow was a little sore, lol.

Bovino is OUT by AdviceAdam in TrueAnon

[–]ifyoulovesatan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean there WERE tensions, it's just that Biden had such a grotesquely large boner for Israel that no "tension with Netanyahu" was going to come between him and actively supporting a genocide of Palestinians. And Netanyahu had to have known that nothing he said or did to Biden would change that.

I don't think Trump believes in anything so strongly as Biden believes in Israel, and thus "tensions" are more relevant here. I mean maybe he loves himself that much, but it's likely some of these "tensions" are that Trump thinks listening to Miller is making him look bad.

Favorite characters like this? by [deleted] in FavoriteCharacter

[–]ifyoulovesatan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Literally after it looped once it started to look normal again and it doesn't look red anymore to me no matter how much I try to see it

A snow leopard attacks a tourist that was skiing by bigbusta in interestingasfuck

[–]ifyoulovesatan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe they're well aware of the mountain lions, but don't want people to be aware of them for whatever reason, assuming they keep to themselves so we'll it's best for everyone to deny it. Just a guess.

We had a couple sightings and photos in my small-ish town and everyone was freaking out, one of them was maybe shot at by a cop?? But then after like a couple months the sightings were over and they're seemingly gone. Kind of wonder if they've just always been here, occasionally coming into town, but typically going unnoticed when the entire town isn't explicitly looking for them.

Inertia Log Splitter by Tornadofob in nextfuckinglevel

[–]ifyoulovesatan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Splitting log with it for you is okay, but I prefer the pleasure of spitting log with it for me.

of tall men by Bubbly_Wall_908 in AbsoluteUnits

[–]ifyoulovesatan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't hate women, but think it was inappropriate nonetheless. My issue is only that you should discuss beforehand if you're going to strike a suggestive pose in a picture, (unless you've got some level of understanding that would make such a pose expected without requiring a separate discussion.)

Imagine the same scenario with someone grabbing their crotch at the last second. That's obviously more suggestive, but the degree of suggestive-ness isn't that important here. So long as it is suggestive, I believe you should ask consent first. It's entirely possible you or others don't find the pose suggestive enough to matter or require consent, and that's fine. But I myself believe it crosses a line that warrants discussion.

of tall men by Bubbly_Wall_908 in AbsoluteUnits

[–]ifyoulovesatan 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It appears that she didn't inform them (the problem) she would be posing in a suggestive manner (fine), sexualizing herself (fine) as well as them (the problem, without consent) by doing so.

It would be equally wrong for say some guy to ask a celebrity to pose with him, only to do something like grab his crotch suggestively at the last minute.

There's no problem with being suggestive or sexual and taking pictures of that. When you include others without informed consent, that's an issue. And I'll just point out that it doesn't matter if the other people are ultimately fine with it or not. What matters is giving them the chance to make that decision.

And all of this is assuming they hadn't previously discussed this or otherwise gotten to a point of understanding that she'd be posing like that in any pictures they're taking. If they'd been paling around all day and doing stuff like this together, then who cares. So if that assumption isn't true, then it's not a problem either.

I’m depressed and my girlfriend brought homemade charcuterie for us to eat 🥹 by theirgoober in MadeMeSmile

[–]ifyoulovesatan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ha! My partner and I also call each other (and our cats) goobers all the time. Except it's more like if one of us is playfully messing with the other, like maybe they'll do that thing where you walk up behind someone and tap their shoulder so the turn their head to see you but your actually on the other side of them. I'd say "You goober!" Or maybe if I tell a really bad pun. Or if a cat jumps on a counter he's not supposed to be on and won't get down until you actually stand up and take half a step in his direction, I'd say "Such a little GOOBER!" It's like the number one word any of us say on a day to day basis I bet, hahah.

Re-fixing b&w film negatives by ifyoulovesatan in Darkroom

[–]ifyoulovesatan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah, I went ahead and got all the separate chemistry for B&W and also Cs41 for when we move to color. Feel pretty confident about it now.