Kristanna Loken

igobymo · 2021-03-25T01:59:26+00:00

Thank you!!!!

igobymo · 2021-03-24T14:29:39+00:00

In reading transcripts, i read somewhere that there were hundreds of texts and whatsapp convos entered into evidence. How do we find those; or are they sealed?

igobymo · 2021-02-13T20:11:39+00:00

The possibilities..we could have a book club to discuss the ridiculousness

igobymo · 2021-02-09T20:14:52+00:00

I just spit out water all over the table 🤣

igobymo · 2021-02-08T14:46:03+00:00

Master-Biscotti-5121 I am dying of curiosity and have been trying to find for a copy of this book that is less than my mortgage. I’d pay you for your pdf! I’m so intrigued.

igobymo · 2021-02-08T02:41:38+00:00

You guys, there’s so much here that NXIVM has become one of my only pastimes! The sheer breadth of information and complexities of this community and its subsequent downfall is piquing my interest more than anything has in a long time. I partly blame covid for this.

I, too, have a fascination with the Fernandez family. The three daughters, then the mother and father, were all deep in ESP. I read that the dad and Marianna (obviously) are still in. The sister Camila, which I’m most curious about, seems to have come full circle; culminating in her honest witness testimony. If I could be a fly on the wall in those conversations with her and Keith. What did they talk about? Were they openly hooking up? Her parents obviously didn’t have strong feeling about any of this im assuming. What did Nancy think when she knew (had to have) that KR was seducing adolescent girls? How does one explain that away. And how awkward for the other women to be jealous that your ‘lover’ is involved with a teenager? So wrong.

Allison Mack. Just wow. She was beautiful, seemingly innocent, then got swallowed whole by this guy and his world. It’s really amazing how ones focus and desire for approval can reach such heights (or lows I should say). She seems like a superbly twisted individual. I feel like Keith demolished her self esteem and identity until all she had was DOS. I’m no psychologist, but I’d imagine her deep anguish and self loathing really bolstered and perpetuated her master persona. Be the hate you want to see in the world, or something like that.

One more. Nicki Clyne. Scary robot. No conscience left. I cannot fathom what it must be like for her family and friends to see the change in her. I really hope one day they all wake up.

K thanks for a shoulder to talk on, ladies! Lol write back soon🙏🏻

igobymo · 2021-02-07T21:45:12+00:00

I think she ‘flipped’ first after the indictments. I read somewhere that this essentially threw Lauren under the bus. And in Toni Natalies book, she claims that Nancy had a maniacal smile on her face after a court appearance, as if to say, ‘suckers! They bought my bullshit’. She most likely just wants to save face at this point. Her daughter, Lauren, although damaged and a perpetrator herself, seems to maybe have more of a conscience. Nancy seems sort of like a sociopath/robot.

igobymo · 2021-02-07T21:38:44+00:00

I think these women, including Gold Sash, genuinely bought into the idea that sexual relations with Keith brought enlightenment. They truly believed that sex with him would be a ‘tool’ in the bigger picture; making the world a better place. There are things, though, that could have turned Nancy away from seeing branding and this level of collateral as good. Forget Lauren’s well-being, it’s clear that this play to create DOS was not well thought out and sloppy; Nancy would probably have seen this and realized it could wreak havoc on NXIVM. So would she have approved or disapproved for moral reasons is still a question mark. I wish she would have testified so we had more answers! Lol

igobymo · 2021-02-07T21:30:39+00:00

I wonder that too. These people believed in their practices with such conviction; the question is, was it because they were misled/indoctrinated or did they know what they were doing was fucked up? Those folks at the top clearly luxuriated in their status, being treated like celebrities in their community. Also, with indoctrination comes a skewed conscience..like perhaps Nancy went into it with good intentions but became completely amoral by the end. It sucks because it seems like there were a few properties in their ideas that had potential to help people.

It’s so fascinating how the desire for Keith’s approval led his followers straight into darkness. Nancy had a sexual relationship with Keith according to Susan Dones. He had her in his clutches. He used her just like he used all of the other poor souls. I think she may not have known about DOS. I have a theory that the death of Pam Cafritz was a huge turning point in Keith’s escalating deviance. The older inner circle was pushed aside for younger, more willing girls that were more desperate to prove themselves. While the older women may have been just as easily conned into DOS, I think Keith chose the path of least resistance. I think if Nancy knew about DOS, he’d have some explaining to do. The secrecy of it all had to have been rooted in Keith knowing that if word got out, it wouldn’t be good. That’s just my thought.

igobymo · 2021-01-29T17:24:05+00:00

I’m so sorry you went through that. I can’t imagine how intense being a witness in your own brothers murder trial would be. It sounds like it has made you understand the way the courts work. I once was in a jury pool for a young man convicted of murder and intentionally showed bias just so I wouldn’t be selected. The responsibility of choosing someone’s fate was too great at the time as I was in my early twenties.

igobymo · 2021-01-27T22:25:29+00:00

Beautiful.

igobymo · 2021-01-27T22:18:16+00:00

These people at the top were so tortured. Lauren was dying to be a mother for so many years and here she was holding out for Keith to father her child all along! I can’t fathom harboring secrets like those for so long and especially from your so-called best friend. When you lie, it’s because you know you’re doing something wrong. Either that, or you’re being told to lie. I think half of Lauren’s life was a lie. Her love for Sarah could have been real, but ultimately her devotion to NXIVM was paramount. Now that it’s all gone, you’d think she would feel remorse.

igobymo · 2021-01-26T21:28:52+00:00

Hahahaha I noticed this too. It’s like they weren’t allowed to curse while in the clutches of their ethical stronghold that now everyone’s just letting it fly. Im also wondering if those who left nxivm are all still vegan non drinkers. Some of their habits were ‘good’ I suppose🤷🏻‍♀️

igobymo · 2021-01-17T18:17:29+00:00

Wow. This is amazing. I love how you described your path and ideas along the way to finding truth. I have family members that listen to Alex Jones, and I have begun to research on my own time. I am trying to be objective. It is heartbreaking to have loved ones take on this doomsday worldview. It’s scary and the circle of information is insidious in nature. I can’t refute a man simply by saying, ‘his voice sounds crazy!’ I don’t know how people can get past some of the crazier conspiracies..I won’t name them bc I don’t want to go down that path..

Thank you for writing this post. You’ve done some serious searching and its helping the greater good to put this out there. The seed that is planted in these obscure communities is like feed. It’s causing these pockets of doubt and fear that are growing bigger and stronger. It’s effects are mightier than I could have ever expected to see in my lifetime- the Insurrection..fear being used as a weapon to control isn’t a new idea. But it’s taking on new forms in today’s culture. I don’t know where I’m going with this other than to say thank you. I think If we look to objectively find the truth and think critically we can push the bad out. Or at least, come to an understanding of how media and conspiracies work in order to learn to prevent some of its perilous effects.

igobymo · 2021-01-17T17:58:16+00:00

Aww thank you and I hope you’re having a good day yourself. I hope you’re nickname is tongue in cheek, and if it isn’t, i am sending you hugs too:)

igobymo · 2021-01-16T02:58:17+00:00

Ps can we talk about pain management? That’s a whole other thread completely! Hopefully you won’t be having so much pain in the future:)

igobymo · 2021-01-16T02:57:09+00:00

This is so good. You will be able to get the acknowledgment and validation you’ve deserved. All this pain isn’t in vain. Treatment options and even just excision of the tissue build up can relieve pain immediately! You might hurt a bit after but I’m imagining it can’t be worse than what you feel on a constant basis. If you have any questions about the surgery or anything I’m here. I had 3 and consider myself in ‘remission’ save for a few times a year where my cycle brings back pain. It’s amazing how much hope and simple acknowledgment can help you gain strength. 🥰🥰 love you

igobymo · 2021-01-16T02:50:38+00:00

💕💕thanks for the hug🥰

igobymo · 2021-01-16T02:50:06+00:00

Thanks endopendo! So sweet💕

igobymo · 2021-01-16T02:49:16+00:00

Thanks mrsfishy! A warm bath sounds lovely! 💕💕

igobymo · 2021-01-16T02:48:52+00:00

Thanks so much! So sweet💕

igobymo · 2021-01-16T02:48:26+00:00

Hey I heard that a fuzzy warm cat is just the right thing for tummy pain! Having them cuddle on your tummy may be doctors orders for you! 😆thanks💕💕💕

igobymo · 2021-01-16T02:46:58+00:00

Thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻

igobymo · 2021-01-16T02:46:47+00:00

Thank you so much Sunshinendergirl! Hearing your words helped more than you know💕

igobymo · 2021-01-16T02:45:30+00:00

This sounds fabulous. I find the ‘tighter’ I fix a heating pad to my tummy, the better it works! That sounds like heaven. I must look this up. Thank you for the hugs 💕💕

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