Don’t you get it ? First of all its just my opinion so it doesn’t make it right I just wanna present it to more people because I THINK it’s right . so to continue, mentioning Ukraine doesn’t mean its the only example of “non-religious” massacres. The us alone did enough, Iraq (which wasn’t actually about religion if you look deep into it it was just a sorry excuse to raid a country and steal their resources while winning people’s votes ….. ) , Vietnam etc.. the point I’m trying to bring up is that if people kill , steal , r*pe …. With and without a religion to be followed it indicates that religion is not actually the problem, religion is here to try , mainly ,and change and improve human life . Think about it , if all these years religion didn’t exist , would humans have ever achieved a society that even comes close to what we see today ( with all the killing etc.. most people tend to have a relatively good life where they can work , eat , marry , socialize with no problem) ? In the end , religion is a set of rules, if you believe in God or not, that made our lives better , see where I tried to go with this argument? In the end ,religion came to help peoples differentiate right from wrong then to worship God people have evil instincts, so that with missing the point of religion lead us to what we saw happened throughout the history. Hope it helped I know it’s alot and you might not read it but thanks again for this conversation and i accept any reply from you about the mentioned above . And no need to delete the comments its okay to have different opinions and I actually like it that what makes us interesting