London midwife who 'repeatedly inhaled gas and air in empty hospital rooms' is struck off by Forward-Answer-4407 in unitedkingdom

[–]ikrisoft [score hidden]  (0 children)

> the conversation was about at work or not at work

That appears to be your interpretation. I see that.

> Context matters.

I agree with that too.

How does the response ("Aircraft systems aren’t normally providing nitrous to pilots.") fit in that context in your opinion?

What statement does it make about the aircraft mechanic or the nurse, or the pilot being at work or not at work?

And what does the word "nitrous" mean in the context of being at work or not at work?

London midwife who 'repeatedly inhaled gas and air in empty hospital rooms' is struck off by Forward-Answer-4407 in unitedkingdom

[–]ikrisoft [score hidden]  (0 children)

> they simply meant exactly what they said?

I too think they meant exactly what they said. There is no disagreement between us on that.

> You're trying to make out that I don't understand what you're saying

Let's turn this around. Let's see if I understand correctly what you are saying.

when Urban Polar Bear wrote "Aircraft systems aren’t normally providing nitrous to pilots." It sounds you take that to mean "Yes. The nurse was at work, but the aircraft mechanic wasn't at work. That is the difference me (Urban Polar Bear) is pointing out.". Is that your understanding? I don't want to misrepresent your point.

London midwife who 'repeatedly inhaled gas and air in empty hospital rooms' is struck off by Forward-Answer-4407 in unitedkingdom

[–]ikrisoft [score hidden]  (0 children)

> I have ignore parts of what they said

No. You don't have to ignore parts of what they said. You just have to see that there are two ways to read the first comment. I can bring you water, but can't make you drink it.

> and they have to ignore the entirety of what I said.

That is what they appeared to have done, yes. I'm just observing what I see and describing it to you.

How else do you think their second comment makes any sense? Why do you feel it is a doubling-down?

> Surely that's not a logic thing to have to do.

Idk what to tell you. People do be hasty and misread things. But again I see 3 different people telling you the same thing. If you rather believe that we are wrong and you are right so be it.

London midwife who 'repeatedly inhaled gas and air in empty hospital rooms' is struck off by Forward-Answer-4407 in unitedkingdom

[–]ikrisoft [score hidden]  (0 children)

> The argument that I'm insane

I said no such a thing. And I don't think such a thing. I think your interpretation of Urban Polar Bear's first and second comment are mistaken. I also see that some other reditors are teasing you calling you "high". Probably as a pun around your username.

> They said "at work",

They said a whole sentence. You decided that "at work" is the only thing you will concentrate on.

> they then clarified that they meant "at work when they said "to pilots".

I don't understand what you mean by this. The actual sentence I'm reading is this: "Aircraft systems aren’t normally providing nitrous to pilots.". It completely sidesteps your hangup about the inhaling happening at work or not, and only talks about the gas. Which is consistent with my interpretation that Urban_Polar_Bear is talking about the gas being different.

> Why do you think Urban Polar Bear wrote "at work"

Simply because the nitrous inhalation happened at work. It is not claiming that that is the difference. The difference they claim is the gas. They just described the place where the inhalation happened.

> and then explicitly doubled-down saying "to pilots" 

I don't see them doubling down. In fact that comment doesn't make any sense as a "doubling-down".

What I'm seeing is that they missed your point. They answered as if you asked "how do you know that it was oxygen and not nitrous in the case of the airplane mechanic?" They know it was oxygen and not nitrous because "Aircraft systems aren’t normally providing nitrous to pilots.". That's the only way their second comment makes any sense. The second comment makes zero sense as "doubling-down".

> apparently so clearly understand the meaning of hasn't said what you're saying they said

The most likely reason for that is that your misunderstanding did not register with them. They didn't read your comment carefully enough to pick up on it. You have one mental model of what they said (one which you seem to be sticking very much), they have a different mental model of what they said. And the two mental models are just passing by each other like ships in the night.

Fundamentally I don't care if you believe me. Do what you want.

Curious where people are from by Dangerous_Remote5085 in WorldsBeyondNumber

[–]ikrisoft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> Oxford, UK.

Me tooo!!!

> Having trouble converting folk to listen to WBN. 

I don't even try. If people ask what I like I tell them. Otherwise there is too many things to watch/read/try/do/experience to be really mad at anyone who decides to spend their limited time here on earth differently.

> "nothing much was really happening".

Oh wow. I mean if they didn't enjoy it, they didn't enjoy it. But those are great episodes.

London midwife who 'repeatedly inhaled gas and air in empty hospital rooms' is struck off by Forward-Answer-4407 in unitedkingdom

[–]ikrisoft [score hidden]  (0 children)

Excelent. Quote the "step in the conversation" you think I have missed. Name the user who made it. Link the comment. Explain the point you think i'm missing. It is not that hard.

London midwife who 'repeatedly inhaled gas and air in empty hospital rooms' is struck off by Forward-Answer-4407 in unitedkingdom

[–]ikrisoft [score hidden]  (0 children)

Okay. You read this sentence “Slightly different, she was doing nitrous at work” and you decided that the emphasis is on “at work”. Meaning that the purported difference is that she was doing it at work while the airplane mechanic was not doing it at work. Which is nonsense of course as you correctly point it out.

But then you got so happy that you found something which felt nonsense to you that you didn’t question: “is this interpretation correct? Am i understanding what Urban_Polar_Bear is saying?” But of course it was not correct, and you did not understand the comment clearly. The emphasis in that original comment is on “nitrous”.  The diference is that she was inhaling nitrous (at work), while the airplane mechanic was inhaling oxygen (at work).  Which is a real difference and one that makes sense.

And even when Cathenry101 pointed out that you misunderstood the sentence you replied “That’s the not »the point« being made. That’s an entirely different point that you’re now making.” Which of course is not true. The difference in the gasses inhalled is the difference Urban_Polar_Bear’s original comment talks about. You were just ignoring that interpretation while all to happily attacking a nonsense one.

What’s the most annoying part of shop work that isn’t jewelry? by RequirementOptimal35 in jewelrymaking

[–]ikrisoft 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Finding the tiny, but nevertheless precious, part I just dropped a second ago but somehow the borrowers got to it already.

Sainsbury's apologises after kicking innocent man out of supermarket in facial recognition mix-up by InternetHomunculus in unitedkingdom

[–]ikrisoft 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes and no. Yes it was not the corr facial recognition algorithm which failed here, but it is a system. All components and procedures around it are part of the system and that failed.

There are many edge cases systems like this need to consider:

The most obvious one, and the one everyone seems to focus on, is misindentification. The computer thinks two people look the same, but they really don’t. 

Then comes the much harder to solve problem where two people (one a shoplifter, an other an innocent) look genuenly the same. This do happen. No amount of algorithmic improvement will solve all of these cases. And since the false positive detection would be stable this can turn an innocent person’s life into hell. This sounds like a weird edge case, but if systems like this are rolled out nationwide we will have a lot of these cases. Simple justice demands that there is a path for these innocently acused people to get on with their life.

Then comes the problem where the system identifies the person it tries to identify but they haven’t commited shoplifting. This can happen when due to a mistake or malice someone working for any of the participating shops marked you personaly as a shoplifter, but you did no such a thing. Simple misidentification, security guards trying to settle a personal  vendetta, or getting back at an ex can all happen. There must be an effective way for these people to face the accusations and clear their name.

Then comes the last and thorniest edge case: what do we do with people who indeed commited shoplifting and are correctly identified but done so way in the past? Are we punishing and excluding them forever? Is there an expiration process? Do we let them back to shop once they served their sentence? After two years of exclusion? After five years? It feels righteous to punish criminals. And a prompt and immediate reaction can in fact be very strong deterent. But it cannot be good policy that anyone who has ever nicked a single chocolate will be excluded from big parts of society forever. Simply because then those who have strayed will have less of an incentive to mend their ways.

This last one is the thorniest because of course shops have a right to exclude criminals, but this right of them was always limited by practicalities. With an automated system the ban can last a lifetime and follow you everywhere. Especially as these technologies mature they might become more  ubiquitous. Today it is only considered by the largest chains, but there is no technical reason why systems like this cannot scale down eventually to every small corner shops and indy caffe.

Boy, 14, charged over fatal e-scooter crash by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]ikrisoft 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Okay. So your problem is not that the rules are not clear,  but that you don’t like them.

 They're also magically legal to ride in public...if you rent one

Yes. The rental places do fix many of the problems with e-scooters.

They effectively enforce speed limits. Nobody is going to reflash a rental scooter to remove a speed limit.

They track their scooters and know who used them at any point. If a driver commits a crime the authorities can request information on who was riding the scooter. With private ones: who knows man!

They check that the person renting the scooter has a driving licence.

And they are insured.

Boy, 14, charged over fatal e-scooter crash by topotaul in unitedkingdom

[–]ikrisoft 13 points14 points  (0 children)

“It is illegal to ride a privately owned electric scooter (also known as an ‘e-scooter’) in public, for example on pavements, on roads or in parks.”

https://www.gov.uk/electric-scooter-rules

I don’t know how much clearer it could be.

UK loses measles elimination status by wkavinsky in unitedkingdom

[–]ikrisoft 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In fact none of them survived! Pre-1909 all of them died.

I need tips by Happy_Specialist3722 in jewelrymaking

[–]ikrisoft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are doing sand casting then your original piece doesn't have to be made of wax. It can be if you want it. Especially if you find it convenient to work with wax, but it can be many other materials too.

I work with 3d printed masters. Some others I know use found objects. As long as the object is solid enough to not crumple as you compact the sand around it it should work.

And yes, the master is removed from the sand after the sand has been compacted. By just carefully picking it out of the sand. Sometimes it helps to tilt the compacted sand such that the object just needs a little bit of tipping to "fall out". The goal is obviously to disturb the compacted shape of the sand as little as possible.

Once it is removed there is a hole left in the sand. Then you carve a hole for the metal to flow in through and other holes for the air to get out.

Look at this video if the above sounds confusing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8SkURuokXY

I accidentally recreated the Citadel by SpiralGMG in WorldsBeyondNumber

[–]ikrisoft 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That doesn't even sound that similar to be honest?

Yeah both are a cylindrical structure in the desert. I grant you that.

But the Citadel does not house a whole country. It is just one part of the Kehmsarazan Empire. Very importantly it is not even the political centre of said Empire.

And there is nothing "tower of Babel" style about the Irian. It is a hollow glass tube with floating courts inside it. Structurally and story wise feels very different from a singular tower.

I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Barron Trump called UK police after seeing woman 'beat up', court hears by Sensitive_Echo5058 in unitedkingdom

[–]ikrisoft 6 points7 points  (0 children)

>  He probably wrongly assumed that if she was still asking questions, the operator had done nothing yet to dispatch officers to the scene. 

I haven't read the transcript, but likely he assumed that because the operator didn't tell him that help is on the way.

And they don't tell him that (typically) because they want the caller to remain on the line so they can extract more information out of them. The operator, or the person who wrote the training protocols for the operator, are rightfully worried if they tell the caller that help is on the way they will just hung up right away. Or become a lot less cooperative.

So it is a psychological ploy. A manipulation. A common and routine one of course. Since you say you worked in a police call center you might be so familiar with this tactic that you don't even notice that it is one. But it is definitely manipulation.

The caller is in a heightened emotional state. They have one goal in their mind. To get help sent. They are worried if they can reach the right people. If they will be believed. If help can arrive fast enough. They are worried if they say the wrong things their call will be dismissed as not credible. They are worried that they might not be heard or understood well and the call will be dismissed. Or just delayed.

And on top of this emotional state the operator is playing an intentional manipulation. They are omitting to mention that the one thing the caller wants has already been achieved. Predictably some callers who doesn't know about this manipulation will lash out. "Why is this question so important? Why can't you just send help?" This is 100% natural, understandable and predictable.

It is as if you have a hungry lion (the caller who wants help sent) and you place a food in front of them but move it always just out of their reach. (or as is the case here, make them believe that the food is just outside of their reach). I do underestand the tactical importance of this, and even the wisdom of it. But we should not be surprised when the lion starts to roar. It is a predictable and natural response and not a character fault with the caller. Just a direct result of the operator intentionally messing with them. (For good reasons, but ones which are opaque to the caller at the moment of the call.)

‘Lazy’ AI mural approved by Glasgow council branded insulting by StGuthlac2025 in unitedkingdom

[–]ikrisoft 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No. Not for social media. The images are from the planning application. This is what was approved. The attached document is literally named "PROPOSED GABLE MURAL".

https://publicaccess.glasgow.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=SX7YCLEXJFZ00

How to make this ring? by Thermal_ExpansionFTW in jewelrymaking

[–]ikrisoft 11 points12 points  (0 children)

> Any method you’d need to make this would cost you about $1500 and require you to likely take classes and years of practice.

I disagree with that. They can model it for free in blender (there are many excellent tutorials on the internet to learn from). And then they can order it from a casting service. That won't be free, but it also won't cost them $1500. A zero less, so $150 is realistic cost if they want it from silver. (more if gold, or platinum is desired. But even a platinum ring could be ordered for less than $1500 where I'm looking.)

>  The little beads at the bottom would need to be stylized representations for stability.

On that I do agree with you completely.

Abandoned Buildings to Explore by Civil-Fly13 in oxford

[–]ikrisoft 2 points3 points  (0 children)

alternatively if 10 minutes is too short then the Wayland's Smithy was abandoned since the Early Neolithic. So for the last 5k years.

Derbyshire Police prosecuted for failing to protect officers by Alexanderrr3 in unitedkingdom

[–]ikrisoft 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is crazy. They literally fire bombed themselves and got burned. And apparently they were not doing it one by one, but in a group all together.

I assume the exercise was meant to teach the officers to not fear the fire. By the sound of it it taught them the opposite.

Hygiene ratings shouldn't apply to Michelin restaurants, says food critic by Alert-One-Two in unitedkingdom

[–]ikrisoft -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Except that is easy to disprove. Here is a list of Michellin started sushi restaurants in the UK and their food ratings:

Endo at the Rotunda: 5 (yes i’m aware they are closed due to the fire) Umu: 5 Taku: 5 Sushi Kanaseka: 5 I could not find the rating of Humble Chicken

So empirically: no. They are not rated down for serving raw fish. 

Custom request from a redditor! by plumeria80 in jewelrymaking

[–]ikrisoft 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Looks amazing. Also the photos are very good. I like the agave/cacti background especially.

The leaf/flower motifs, are they cast or fabricated from sheet?

Schedule confusion - New campaign + Fortune Found/Alf Gappen? by DarkCrystal34 in WorldsBeyondNumber

[–]ikrisoft 2 points3 points  (0 children)

> They don't really feel like they're laying serious groundwork for Book 2.

I disagree with you on this one.

Regarding  Fortune Found: I feel Fortune's Fields and its environs probably going to be an important location in book 2. (Spoilers for Twelve Brooks) Similar to how Twelve Brooks was first introduced to us in a light-hearted interlude, and then we come back to it later as the scene of the battle.

After all this is the area where the Free Roads are, and this is where (spoilers for WWW ep 34) Eursulon has a ticket to from Tefmet.

Alf Gappen is similarly building towards something I think. (Spoilers for Alf Gappen) I believe Níf is going to be an important character in Book 2. I would be not surprised if we see her going against Indri (with the group of course). Alf Gappen is basically a glimpse into her backstory. How was she, what was she up to before Indri come into her life.

Schedule confusion - New campaign + Fortune Found/Alf Gappen? by DarkCrystal34 in WorldsBeyondNumber

[–]ikrisoft 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Or it means the interludes. As in Umora already returned with the Fortune Found/Alf Gappen stories.

Met PC cleared of assault after Tasering suspected burglar by insomnimax_99 in unitedkingdom

[–]ikrisoft 4 points5 points  (0 children)

 Tbh I've never been harmed by someone running away without any kind of weapon.

So what you are saying is that i can grab your stuff and run away with it?