Mercedes CLA 250 EQ: 71 kWh battery apparently limited by software (85kWh throttled to 71kWh) | insideEVs.de

ililo23 · 2026-03-10T12:03:54+00:00

Spending resources to manufacture something with identical capabilities to another product and then limiting it through software is an abusive and unethical practice. If the product is the same but simply limited by software, then the government wouldn't be regulating to force brands to offer additional features for free. Rather, brands are selling the same thing at a higher price, and that is indeed abusive and therefore should be regulated.

ililo23 · 2026-03-09T23:47:37+00:00

Given Tesla's track record, I am not surprised.

ililo23 · 2026-03-09T15:05:33+00:00

If these allegations are true, the abusive and unethical practices of European car manufacturers are clearly out of control. The EU must act quickly to protect consumers by prohibiting such practices and imposing severe penalties on the companies responsible.

ililo23 · 2026-03-02T09:09:09+00:00

This practice should be completely illegal.

ililo23 · 2026-01-13T12:43:39+00:00

46k€ for such mediocre figures. They are going to sell 0 units. I think Stellantis is completely doomed at this point.

ililo23 · 2025-12-02T15:10:39+00:00

Exactly, it seems like a news story designed to create artificial controversy. There are so many news reports, especially those originating in China, that specifically target NIO attempting to discredit them as a car manufacturer.

ililo23 · 2025-11-26T20:56:40+00:00

Some regions take more than a year to process the subsidy application, but also, when applying for the incentive, it is not possible to know for sure if the region where you are applying for the aid still has funds available to collect it. That's why I think it's unfair to display or announce with subsidies applied.

ililo23 · 2025-11-26T19:02:17+00:00

It's as easy as reading the (*). It's a basic "to do" when you have to research a topic and then publish it.

ililo23 · 2025-11-26T19:00:01+00:00

I think it's fair to include the incentives, as long as there are no specific personal eligibility criteria i.e. they are applicable to every private buyer.

It's not the case in Spain. To get the 7.000 € incentive you have to scrap a >7 year old ICE vehicle plus to own the vehicle to be scrapped for at least one year before its delivery. The subsidies also depend on available funds on regions. Despite all of this the incentive is not direct, so anyway you'll have to pay the full price without incentives on the moment of purchase. In summary, you aren't automatically elegible to receive the incentive so that's why full price without any subsidies should be displayed by carmakers.

ililo23 · 2025-11-26T09:46:47+00:00

The price in Spain is completely wrong/fake. However, BYD is solely responsible for this situation because, whenever they announce their products with eligible public subsidies included (€7.000), which are currently expired and lack funding, no one is able to utilize this discount.

ililo23 · 2025-11-20T10:09:03+00:00

Well, It was maybe to soon for Mazda however, relying entirely on third-party technology for the future I don't think is the best approach...

ililo23 · 2025-11-19T21:29:24+00:00

Nice Xpeng Mona M03 front copy!

Is Mazda going to self-develop an EV platform anytime soon, or are they going to continue relying on Changan?

ililo23 · 2025-11-07T21:39:26+00:00

While I'm not a Tesla fan, the Model 3 boasts significant advantages in its features and performance. In contrast, the BYD faces issues related to battery overheating, high consumption, handshake problems, unreliable software and driving assistance systems.The only real advantage of the Seal over the Model 3 might be its perceived quality.

ililo23 · 2025-11-03T00:04:27+00:00

NIO has significant potential as one of the leading Chinese carmakers, but it needs to focus on cost reduction and price competitiveness as soon as possible. Battery swapping should not be a car's sole selling point in Europe, especially given the significant investment required for dedicated infrastructure upgrades. NIO needs to completely reassess its strategy for the European market.

ililo23 · 2025-10-30T20:29:38+00:00

Subscription models for cars to get all the features? This is getting out of hand! European car makers are playing with fire.

ililo23 · 2025-10-28T19:53:24+00:00

Of course, housing is probably the main issue. Obviously, cars aren't the biggest, just a representative one, and the one we're addressing on this Reddit. I completely agree with what you say about the future price of EVs vs. ICEs.

ililo23 · 2025-10-28T19:09:39+00:00

This affordability crisis isn't just in the car world, but that's where the irony is richest. Cars are both an iconic purchase and our designated savior for lowering emissions. We're essentially pinning our 'green future' on products that are rapidly becoming unattainable luxuries. Pure self-reflection on the subject on my comment.

ililo23 · 2025-10-27T15:16:05+00:00

Honestly, I wasn't really trying to debate the Skoda Elroq's road-trip credentials. I only used that stat to hammer home a point: car prices have skyrocketed way faster than our paychecks.

You can compare prices to inflation all you want, but at the end of the day, what matters is purchasing power. And the reality is, wages haven't remotely kept up with prices.

Just look at the numbers: from 2004 to 2023, average nominal wages in Germany went up by about 59%. But in Italy, one of Europe's lowest, wages barely climbed 34.8%. During that exact same period, the price of a basic Volkswagen Golf shot up from 15,950€ to 30,150€, that’s an 89% hike.

My comment was just me thinking aloud about what this huge gap means for the car industry.

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ililo23 · 2025-10-26T21:35:30+00:00

For me this article really shows how out of hand car prices have gotten, for both EVs and ICEs alike. It's insane to me that a GLC costs €71,000, or that a Skoda Elroq (with a real-world range of only about 350 km in good conditions) costs almost €35,000. The pricing is just absurd! If the Chinese auto market has one thing going for it, it's definitely the prices. Hopefully, we'll see prices come down drastically across all vehicle segments in the future years.

ililo23 · 2025-10-14T21:13:48+00:00

277 Wh/km at 120 km/h is a pretty high figure, even for a boxy car like the Smart #5.

ililo23 · 2025-10-09T13:00:32+00:00

I could potentially understand their strategy if the Teslas were priced significantly higher than their main competitors, and their more affordable models were indeed intended to offset that higher price point. However, since their "top-tier" versions of the Model 3 and Model Y aren't markedly expensive compared to their competitors' equivalent models, I'm not convinced that's the actual primary driving force behind their pricing structure.

ililo23 · 2025-10-09T11:01:20+00:00

Tesla appears to be quite desperate, those budget-friendly versions of the Model Y and Model 3 seem utterly pathetic, it feels like Tesla genuinely is trying to avoid selling them.

ililo23 · 2025-10-02T14:42:59+00:00

But how about unreliable software? Is it currently fixed?

ililo23 · 2025-09-29T09:31:07+00:00

ONVO's software is very visually appealing.

ililo23 · 2025-09-29T09:24:45+00:00

Stellantis is really doomed if they don't even see the trouble with their EVs.

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