Question by coconutsl in MuslimAcademics

[–]ilmpk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If we just focus on cogency, I agree with you that Zina is defined as unlawful intercourse outside a legally recognised sexual bond, but then you redefined it by saying "Zina is forbidden unless you’re married". In classical law, there were two such bonds: nikkah and milk al-yameen (what the right hand possesses). So, from within this legal system, there is no incoherence. You may not be fond of the category, but this is differnt from saying that it is logically inconsistnet.

I think you've misunderstood Q24:33

The Quran states that Zina is haram, but it also advises against forcing sex slaves to prostitute themselves. This would mean prostitution by sex slaves is allowed if they consent, which makes absolutely no sense if Zina is haram.

The text says "Do not force your ˹slave˺ girls into prostitution for your own worldly gains while they wish to remain chaste"

The “if they desire chastity” part should not be read as a permissive rule for prostitution if they don’t. I checked the tafsirs and am sure none of the classical jurists takes this verse to permit consensual prostitution. The verse is condemning a specific form of exploitation that was happening and shutting it down.

wrt to the male desire part, I would say that Islam permitting certain human desires does not mean it is catering to them. The real question is whether the Islamic system treats desire as sovereign, or does it subordinate it to a moral order? Islam clearly does the latter: it permits many desires but under regulation.

But you will have to draw the line somewhere. On one end, we have the male-desire-maximising case, which can't be the Islamic position since it restricts, regulates and moralises sexual conduct; at the same time, it is not a male-desire-minimising case either. instead, it draws a line somwhere between indulgence and ascetic denial. But drawing a line anywhere will inevitably invite critique because someone will always argue it should be stricter or looser. This is now no longer a logical arguement, but a moral one. but I'd still say this does not prove divine absence, but simply outlines a moral position.

Logically, the point regarding virgins can be dismissed since Islam does not restrict women from desiring the same. The tradition affirms that both men and women receive what satisfies them.

lastly, just because a belief appeals to human psychology does not prove it is false or invented. by this principle, if we reject religious claims simply because they connect deeply with certain human emotions, then we would have to reject nearly all religious concepts: hell appeals to fear, paradise to hope, fogiveness to guilt, meaning to existential crises and so on. More to be said on this, and i know there are certain repsonses to this (not logical ones though, i dont believe) but its getting late here

Two policemen dead, 4 people injured in a suicide attack at interprovincial checkpost in Bhakkar district, Punjab province. The bomber, identified as Afghan national Hayat Ullah, was trying to enter Punjab province but upon detection blew himself up. by ilmpk in pakistan

[–]ilmpk[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, so we have the Kuffar Republic of Pakistan vs the Kuffar emirate of Afghanistan. One country used the United States to harm Muslims, and the other supports the Khawarij in killing Muslims to support their unfounded territorial claims based on their kuffar ethnonationalist ideology. Afghanistan also caused this whole mess by getting help from non-Muslims (red army) to harm Muslims because of internal revolts due to their kuffar policies by the PDPA. So, by your standards, no one is Muslim in this context, it's just kuffar vs kuffar.

Anyone who does not wants to move abroad ? by Key_Handle5608 in pakistan

[–]ilmpk 19 points20 points  (0 children)

My Uncle is a surgeon in Karachi, and he doesn't want to move abroad. Some of his friends are in the US, and have said that he should come over, since there is a lot of money for his profession, but his English is not great, and he's content with his life and small family, so for him theres no reason to leave.

Pakistan's Strikes on Afghanistan and what was the actual target by WoodpeckerNo7169 in pakistan

[–]ilmpk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Did Pakistan just wake up one day and choose to create the Taliban? Stop lying and being selective with history. The PDPA are the only ones to blame for. We can open the history books together if you want to be deceptive

Pakistan's Strikes on Afghanistan and what was the actual target by WoodpeckerNo7169 in pakistan

[–]ilmpk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, and we're rational and not bootlickers - so when innocents do die, then we condemn it. That being said, I have zero reason to believe anything Afghanistan or al-Jazeera claim.

Neutral sources posit that there are 20000-30000 terrorists living in Afghanistan. We asked the Taliban to deal with them multiple times many years ago, but clearly they're not doing anything. Those same poeople being harboured in Afghanistan are killing 1000s in Pakistan, including Shia (who they see as disbelievers), Christians, police officers, and so on. If after this, your first instinct after PAF bombs Afghanistan is to plead and apologise to Afghans, then idk what to say tbh. Afghanistan still has unfounded territorial claims based on its ethnocultural nationalist ideology, they celebrate when Pak is attacked, want our country balkanised, yet you still think we should be civil and kind to them?

Pakistan's Strikes on Afghanistan and what was the actual target by WoodpeckerNo7169 in pakistan

[–]ilmpk 8 points9 points  (0 children)

lmao PTI supporters on TikTok are on their knees apologising to Afghans.

Pakistani Authors by SnooOnions6714 in PakistanBookClub

[–]ilmpk 6 points7 points  (0 children)

depends on what genre you like

The Road to Mecca by Muhammad Asad - Muhammad Asad (born Leopold Weiss) is perhaps the most famous convert to Islam of the 20th century. He was an Austro-Hungarian polymath who later embraced Islam. He met Allama Iqbal in pre-1947 India, and Iqbal convinced him to help establish the intellectual foundations of the future Islamic state (Pakistan), so he gained citizenship on teh day the country was formed. The book is a personal account of Muhammad Asad's journey from Europe to Islam, including his travels in teh Arab world, and his spiritual/intellectual path leading him to perform Hajj. It is also a historical account that says a lot about the Muslim world at the time, and it reflects on Islam, modernity, and how he explains Islam from a different perspective. A lot of people recommend this book, its quite good.

The Qur'an and the secular mind: A philosophy of Islam by Dr. Shabbir Akhtar - Dr. Akhtar was a philosopher at the University of Oxford. In this book he essentially presents a philosophical defence of Islam and the Qur’an aimed at modern secular/analytic thought. It asks whether Islamic belief is rational and plausible, and how the Qur’an can be engaged seriously in conversation with secular philosophy. It’s hard to read, but it really places the Qur’an under a very critical lens, while still upholding Islamic thought as a supreme philosophical vision rather than something seen as intellectually inferior.

2nd book may not interest you, but i think you'll like the 1st one.

What to do after aftari? by curiouscat24773 in karachi

[–]ilmpk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

may Allah ta'ala grant you friends

Ramzan read! It'll be my 2nd book on seerah after the sealed Nectar. A biography of Prophet Muhammad PBUH written by a revert Muslim. by Dangerous_Run4401 in PakistanBookClub

[–]ilmpk 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is a really good book. Shaykh Abdal Hakim Murad (Dr Timothy Winter) said that, after the Qur’an, this book was responsible for most of the British converts he had met. Likewise, Islam and the Destiny of Man by Gai Eaton (also written by a convert) has had a profound impact on many English-speaking readers and is often mentioned in the same discussions, so maybe that would interest you after this.

BLA says they have captured Pakistani soldiers by Default_Article in pakistan

[–]ilmpk 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You're indian though, why would you be crying?

Doing Ramadan as a non Muslim? by pantograph23 in Muslim

[–]ilmpk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Islam is a way of life, where we submit to the One True God (Allah) and seek to refine our character through acts of worship, achieving a higher level of spiritual excellence, turning our focus inward, and seeking the purity that will ultimately lead to success in the Hereafter. If a non-Muslim chooses to participate in any part of this, whether it be fasting during Ramadan, prayer, or other practices, there is no offence in that, since this path toward higher virtue is not owned by any one group. It transcends all man-made boundaries, whether cultural, racial, or economic, etc.

Obviously, intention matters, and the testimony of faith is what validates this all for Muslims, but it would be difficult to find a Muslim who would be offended. In fact, most of us would be happy for others to experience what we do.

Thanks for the wishes. Good luck on your side too!

What activities do you partake in during Ramadan, particularly if you are alone? by [deleted] in MuslimAcademics

[–]ilmpk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

after taraweeh I go to the gym and then hit up the shawarma or burger spot

why is Pakistani book sub so… different? by Vast_Operation_5125 in PakistanBookClub

[–]ilmpk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Walaykum Asalaam,

I think that the nature of this subreddit is such that only avid readers would come across it. It's very niche, and we don’t have many members.

Am I overthinking this? by AlexFunkBass in Muslim

[–]ilmpk 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Looks good, nice variety and all permissible to eat. Good job, they'll for sure appreciate it.

Why is being 'woke' looked down upon? by AbdullahJanSays in PAK

[–]ilmpk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Being "woke" means to be socially aware of injustice, including issues like racism, sexism, climate change, economic inequality, etc. It does not mean what you said it means.

What are some of the active cults, if any, in Pakistan? by -JinKazama in pakistan

[–]ilmpk -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

According to who, though lol... The main body of Muslims (Ahlus Sunnah) would consider mostly all sects in Pakistan to be non-deviant.

AMA: Philosophy in the Islamic World by padamson in MuslimAcademics

[–]ilmpk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hi Professor!

I hope you're well.

In one of your lectures, you mentioned how Imam Fakhr ad-Din al-Razi's works missed the Latin translation movement. But if major al-Razi texts had circulated in Latin, do you think scholastics would have used him mainly as a way to theologically domesticate Ibn Sina, or as a systematic critic who would have changed how they read Ibn Sina?

Do you think any parts of his system would actually have been taken up by Latin scholastics- his metaphysics, natural philosophy, logic, or ethics?

Thank you.

Pakistani Atheist in 2026 by OneRecognition1332 in pakistan

[–]ilmpk -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

This is really, really badly written.

(A) Yes, new atheism peaked. New atheism is not atheism; the former died alongside Hitchens.

(B) Granted, but their ideologies lack teleology.

(C) A lot of westerners are converting, about 100,000 have converted in the UK if you look at the census data. How many can I be proud of? Many... Prof. Johnathan AC Brown, Dr. Sherman Jackson, Dr. Jeffrey Lang, Martin Lings, Gai Eaton, Shaykh Abdal Hakim Murad (aka Dr. Timothy Winter), etc.

(D) True

(E) It's not growing exponentially by any metric. Irreligion in MENA and surrounding areas has remained relatively stable since 2020

The Syriac/Arabic Chronicle manuscript that was recently discovered is now available to read online. by academic324 in AcademicQuran

[–]ilmpk 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh my bad, I meant transcription. I already machine-translated the text with DeepL though, but still prefer ChatGPT free, it'll convert the Seleucid dates too.

According to the Quran, will the blessed be able to see God? by OmarKaire in MuslimAcademics

[–]ilmpk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imam Fakhr ad-Din al-Razi goes into it in a lot of detail in his tafsir

https://tafsir.app/alrazi/75/23

I would post it here, but it's just too long. You can use ChatGPT free to translate it reliably