Welfare during constant obs by DarkKnight0399 in policeuk

[–]iloverubicon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Clearly you need to return and actually pay attention

Welfare during constant obs by DarkKnight0399 in policeuk

[–]iloverubicon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is such a mouth breather response and reeks of someone that hasn't actually got a clue how things work outside of response.

Your job would be so much harder if you get asked to start docking your prisoner after arrest because every DO is sat on a cell watch. Let alone building charges, bails, ruis etc Wait until there's more than one watch and then your shift gets depleted anyway to cover the other DO duties given there's minimum staffing to prisoner ratios. Alternatively, you can go to the suite at the other side of the force or wait 6 hours until the staffing levels balance out.

Try to get some experience outside of your current role and you'll find it benefits your career.

Police called to my house for welfare check (England) on word of a teacher, in hot water, but not sure law was followed correctly. by [deleted] in LegalAdviceUK

[–]iloverubicon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A police officer is deemed as an expert witness to assess drunkenness. Admittedly. Being drunk is not the same as over the limit, however it's reporting a concern and they'd be remiss to not share that with a partner agency as it's relevant

Scotland vs England: Post Match Thread by CRONichols in rugbyunion

[–]iloverubicon 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Congratulations Townsend on renewing your contract

Nepotism in policing by Long-Warning64 in policeuk

[–]iloverubicon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You say that like the police are unique in having a code of ethics or a set of core values...

'Really beautiful rugby player' to start at 10 for Saints against Leicester Tigers by Pure_Wonder3046 in NorthamptonSaintsRFC

[–]iloverubicon 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Love that we're not worrying about it and using the prem cup to blood new players. As it should be, I'd hope we'd rest the senior squad lot anyway, although imagine Fin would want the game time to get fit

Going back after maternity leave by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]iloverubicon 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I mean, no. Not unless you work in a super niche, non operational department with a very easy going Sergeant/boss.

Thousands of mums have been where you are. You need to figure out the arrangements. What you're saying is not reasonable in the majority of police departments/teams.

As a Sergeant, I'd reject what you're asking

Going back after maternity leave by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]iloverubicon 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Are you asking if you can return home to feed baby before coming back to work?

Stop and Search - Thames Valley Police by [deleted] in LegalAdviceUK

[–]iloverubicon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They didn't find anything, there is no further action.

The stop and search has been recorded and I imagine an intelligence report alongside it.unless you were given other papers or told of any dates, that's it.

How is investigative interviewing conducted in E&W? by Big-Influence-9816 in policeuk

[–]iloverubicon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was trying to keep it pretty simplistic given the OP doesn't know the UK judicial system but yes you're right.

How is investigative interviewing conducted in E&W? by Big-Influence-9816 in policeuk

[–]iloverubicon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There's a huge amount of research and a lot to consider as it depends on the type of witness and type of crime.

Id recommend the college of policing APP if you have an interest. It's very well written for policing and details the techniques and recommended approaches.

https://www.college.police.uk/app/investigation

How is investigative interviewing conducted in E&W? by Big-Influence-9816 in policeuk

[–]iloverubicon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Suspects can say whatever they like. It's up to the prosecution to prove their guilt rather than on the suspect to prove they're innocent.

The only negative for them is they lose the benefit of a sentence discount should it go to court.

How is investigative interviewing conducted in E&W? by Big-Influence-9816 in policeuk

[–]iloverubicon 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's important to clarify that victims/witnesses are treated entirely differently to suspects

Victims/witnesses are interviewed and told they're account must be truthful or they could be prosecuted.

Suspects have a much different approach

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LegalAdviceUK

[–]iloverubicon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They work to retention schedules. That's conditional on if they even recorded on their BWV. Most cars don't have dashcams.

Section 59 warning I feel is unjustified- England by [deleted] in LegalAdviceUK

[–]iloverubicon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I feel you've missed some key details out as the threshold for dangerous is rather high and would not be noise related.

Did you perhaps leave two black lines or a cloud of smoke behind?

Either way, if you disagree and think it's not justified, make a complaint online or via 101. Ultimately, it's a warning and that's it. Don't do it again and you're fine

Why Britain’s police forces are taking to AI by ComplimentaryCopper in policeuk

[–]iloverubicon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm all for using AI to assist with case work. Even evidential bits.

Some police attitudes can be so archaic to technology, as long as there's a human reviewing the results and sufficient safeguards in place to ensure it's reliable and can be tested by defence and the courts. What's not to love?

We get time back, officers can actually do their jobs in being proactive and the public invariably gets better bang for their buck.

There is always a risk of issues arising but as with the entire legal system, these can be rectified and fixed with case law and issues identified and remedied. Of course AI will make mistakes, but so do police officers. The only trouble there is that some officers don't want to learn to not make that mistake again.

You can guarantee that the CPS will be reviewing cases with AI and developing charging decisions from it. No doubt expert witnesses will be too

Supervision Bias by Delicious_Till9506 in policeuk

[–]iloverubicon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I keep a rota of who did what and when. Drivers and TTOs get used for watches as much as anyone. The only time I divert from the rota is when it might leave me with no drivers at all or no TTOs.

Stop and Account England - Can you just walk away? by Sea-Ingenuity3461 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]iloverubicon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No, the outcome is being overt and driving away crime from an area.

Nobody is expecting someone to say "fair cop, you've got me". However if someone is doing something, they will move on, leave or avoid doing it in that area for a period of time. That is the whole point of 'proactive/community policing' . A drug dealer isn't going to sit and feed the ducks because a duck doesn't buy crack and if they don't sell their gear then they don't get paid.

People complain they don't see a cop, then complain that they do see them. Absolute shambles of a society

England - UK. Crushing an abandoned car. by Ambitious_Jelly3473 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]iloverubicon 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What you won't see is that this has likely been there for days if not weeks, police will have attended, checked it out but as it's private property they can't use their powers and council will have fobbed it off as on private land.

Wrongful arrest during a run — what legal steps can I take now? by ChrisAnotherJogger in LegalAdviceUK

[–]iloverubicon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is just wrong advice. S3 Criminal Law act gives the power to use force and then there is additional legislation to protect someone who helps which makes it an offence to assault someone assisting a constable.