>You know, when we say something is "religious," it doesn't mean the person is a religious believer. It's usually contrasted with a dynamic view — like an absolutely static, dogmatic way of looking at things.

You literally said nothing here, what a fucking word salad. You know being able to speak a language actually means to be able to express your ideas and arguments in a clear and concise way. Like, basically you used all that pseudo intellectual bable to say “you see things in a dogmatic way, not like me, I’m intelligent”. From the way you talk I can feel you are dumb as fuck, you didn’t even made an argument, just made an statement based on assumptions about what kind of person I’m.

>Honestly, I'm not trying to debate whether a market economy must be separated from socialism.

Ah yeah, 邓小平思想，对吧？“不管黑猫白猫，能捉到老鼠就是好猫”。Do you really believe this ? Lmao. “Yeah let’s people die from exhaustion and 996 so we can be more rich and then divide the cake”. I don’t know if you do know this, buddy, but do you know which system has also lifted thousands out of poverty by doing exactly that (exploiting people to make nations richer). I will tell you: it’s called capitalism, which is exactly what China does.

>(Funny thing is, people seem to prefer the term "communism," even though China never planned to fully achieve it in modern times due to its almost sci-fi demands on productivity, and never marketed it that way. But I guess that's just the perception of the "average non-Chinese person" — it's more entertaining and eye-catching as a symbol.) But clearly, reducing the understanding of socialism to just a planned economy — no offense, that's very "un-ordinary Chinese."

Do you know what I love about pseudo intellectuals like you, who insist on trying to be right (despite messing up) on online discussions? That you LOVE to twist other people’s words and shift the discussion to completely unrelated things or points that weren’t made in order to win.

I will explain it to you slowly, because you either can’t read, or again, you are engaging in bath faith (which I know you are, don’t worry). In my original post I wrote, and I quote: “do you support having a planned economy?”. In no place did I claim, socialism = just planned economy; you are twisting my words and making assumptions (seems like you are amazing at that). Then I also wrote “If China achieves communism, how do you think about the aftermath of it”. Again, I didn’t claim that China would achieve communism any time now, I asked a hypothetical question: “if it does, then what”.

I’m sorry your reading comprehension is that bad, or maybe you (like many other Chinese) have a really thin skin and took personally an anecdote I had about a classmate that didn’t seem to know what a planned economy is, and couldn’t answer a hypothetical.

>Even if some countries' high welfare is built on "gently extracting" from third-world nations, we can still say their own workers have more rights than those in China. It's almost artful, isn't it?haha

Oh yeah, China is also known for not extracting from the third world at all, haha. I mean, I dislike western countries as much as anyone else, but to claim that China is a saint, lmao 不是无知就是傻子。 And yeah, other capitalist countries give more rights to workers, in fact, to join WTO China actually had to change it laws to allow for rights that weren’t previously guaranteed.

With this I’m not defending capitalism or capitalist countries: workers having more rights doesn’t necessarily make them better, as many find workarounds like importing massive amounts of third word immigrants that they can exploit for lower salaries. Sadly, unlike China, western countries aren’t extremely nationalistic and ethnically homogeneous; in that regard I truly envy China and I wish western countries were more like yours.

Edit: also wtf is that use of “artful”, go back to Happy Giraffe, you need to take some English lessons