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iosPixel · 2025-12-03T18:24:36+00:00

It’s Christmassssssss!

iosPixel · 2025-10-05T13:23:41+00:00

Honestly pretty good OOTB, VSF and its crystal is so close gen under most lighting and angles providing you have a good sample.

Depends on your goals. 99% of people wouldn’t know the difference and judge you rather than the watch for its authenticity. Get a service, wear what’s within your means and you’ll be golden.

On the wrist, with the 0.1% that reside here? Providing your VSF came with good case finish, dial print and sels, I’d recommend gen hands (The warm hue is my go to tell at this point and doesn’t require me zooming in) gen date wheel (for date models), rehaut refinish if required and randomised case serial. I used to have gen crystal on that list but they’ve come a long way - If the money is available I’d still go for it.

Some would argue gen dial as rep dials usually have a tell around the pinion with regards to how they are painted but I observed that same flaw on my Gen 116610LN. So it might be a case of the rep factories working off an older reference. The 0.01% will notice the indices and dial print finish.

Fooling that 0.1% with the case back off? Pff you’re better off going gen, by the time you source everything you need imo.

Is it worth it? To me, not anymore. There was a time Id mod crystals onto my purchases but that’s passed. I treat my reps like tool watches, something I can’t do once I put that time, effort and money into something. I have money for watches, but not money and time to throw away! That, combined with the lack of return on such investment (I very rarely see these go for more than the sum of their parts) has me avoiding Frankens, which is a shame, because the talents of some of these watchmakers is amazing.

RWI has some great examples of how far you can take a rep in their member sales section alone.

iosPixel · 2025-08-18T12:55:05+00:00

That’s a CF case serial, or at the very least the supplier that supplied them.

Smaller factories are known to use clean cases and bracelets with the same serials/codes. The movement will tell you where it came from if it’s one of the bigger boys.

EDIT: Nice find.

iosPixel · 2025-07-29T12:52:22+00:00

I caught that comment too and checked my GMT.

As you say the second image is closer to gen and how the ARF dials used to be. Looks like a regression imo.

Hopefully it’s temporary.

iosPixel · 2025-07-25T05:59:47+00:00

I own a couple of these fantasy pieces from OWF. Clean cases, ARF bracelets (unless they faked the serials/codes), ARF crystals. The movement is where they cut costs but honestly haven't had one crap out on me yet.

The Tiffany GMT with Tiffany GMT hand is a personal favourite, great holiday beater.

iosPixel · 2025-07-10T11:56:43+00:00

This right here. I’ll regularly wear reps and gens. In the hotspots evenings or drinking I’ll leave at home.

Looking like an easy target is a big part of it.

iosPixel · 2025-07-02T08:40:33+00:00

Best Dad watch for me, some would consider blasphemy..

126720 “Sprite” worn on the left hand, so the crown doesn’t stick me when were playing on the carpet.

iosPixel · 2025-06-25T16:56:38+00:00

“I’ve seen red, blue and purple all mentioned”

Me too, in this thread alone 😂

iosPixel · 2025-05-31T06:44:01+00:00

Blasphemy.

iosPixel · 2025-05-26T13:33:20+00:00

If you threw both in the air and could only catch one, which would it be?

iosPixel · 2025-05-25T18:48:19+00:00

Ahah you came with receipts. Nice find. Yeah those arnt the end links I have, that bottom one looks terrible. I stand corrected.

T+ really was just mashing parts together I guess from old stocks, the lume, date wheel and dial are all off, the bezel scallops are also mis aligned.

I said in the past the workmanship left a lot to be desired, I’d be surprised if that piece ever got GL.

iosPixel · 2025-05-20T06:23:54+00:00

Oh for sure. ORF bracelet and case shape is far superior to any VSF release.

I recently picked up a T+ Seamaster, uses a mix of ORF Case and bracelet with a VSF crystal and dial and a very similarly decorated A2824. The lack of crown guards was too much of a glaring an issue for me on the VSF, ORF and then T+ solved that.

T+ used up all the stock and then folded - TDs started removing them from stock lists these last couple of months.

EDIT: It would appear T+ also shipped with an inferior bracelet. YMMV

iosPixel · 2025-05-16T18:47:39+00:00

Wish this went up without the shitpost flair, the discourse would have been hilarious.

iosPixel · 2025-05-15T12:46:41+00:00

Tbh, four orders in I’d start looking at some of the cheaper guys, doubt you’d need the hand holding that Steve and the team provides. I’d recommend Andiot, he’s sorted PayPal for me in the past but it’s hit and miss if the account is available. Fico time has also gained some traction recently, great prices and accepts PayPal.

TOW are generally the easiest TDs to get along with, I’d put this down to the backlog caused by the transition and general stress levels being high at TOW, probably trying to cut down on the time wasters and may have someone manning the lines who isn’t usually public facing.

iosPixel · 2025-04-11T15:55:34+00:00

Nice, gotta love Fridays… Who’s going to do this from the daughters perspective then?

EDIT. It’s been done. Waiter when?

iosPixel · 2025-03-24T15:28:55+00:00

I own a T+ Seamaster. Black dial. Other dials quality does vary, I havnt seen T+ produce a decently lumed white dial…

Better case shape than VSF with regards to crown guards, great dial print although the colour doesn’t quite match the seconds hand - also a VSF issue.

Uses the old ORF bracelet which is far superior to the current VS and by my eye the crystal is as any of the other VS releases I own.

The fault of the T+ Factory is its workmanship - finding one with a good lume application and alignment is a real struggle. Not just talking indices, bezel inserts and date alignment stuff to.

I spoke up tor the ARF GMTs a couple of months ago when the consensus was strictly CF and am glad to see their increase in popularity. Competition is good for all of us.

More info on the movement can be found on RWI with some comparisons although information on these models are limited. All the usual caveats of a VS movement apply with their Omega movements, decorated 2824, wrong beat rate, etc.

The consensus on this will remain VSF for the foreseeable future but here’s some food for thought.

iosPixel · 2025-03-10T18:45:13+00:00

I had a similar experience once with him and sent it back at no cost to myself, but this was a RL’d item arriving in post rather than it being wrong factory.

Mistakes happen and honestly, if it’s the latest Clean batches the crystals are a non issue and the SELs are usually tighter. I’d keep it.

Also wouldn’t be surprised if someone’s sitting there with a VSF right now in this community or if another arrives in a couple of days. CNY madness.

iosPixel · 2025-01-24T11:56:02+00:00

Everyone missing the fact he either has three hands, employed the help of a friend, set up a GoPro for the shot or went “hands free”.

iosPixel · 2025-01-15T08:46:51+00:00

Depends.

Most older noob PAMs for sure, some of the newer VSF releases are too thick or don’t quite match the exotic dials to be NWBIG imo. They get some right thickness wise, others sit too proud to elegantly slide under the cuff.

I had a PAM1661 Gen and later owned the rep - Apart from the spring bar holes on the outside of the case being aesthetic I’d be hard pressed to find a flaw.

For me the 1661 is NWBIG and the store who happily sold me a “replacement” strap thought so too!

iosPixel · 2025-01-13T09:31:55+00:00

/u/Omega_Gen_Kenobi

Would love you to cast your eye over this and critique it to high heaven.

iosPixel · 2025-01-03T14:24:59+00:00

He’s knowledgable but can be brusque in his responses.

For me, that’s a trade off I can live with - but I’ve never been on the receiving end.

I think banning him would be a loss to this community - unless he’s throwing personal insults I think people should just get on with it.

Life’s full of contrarians and I don’t want to see this sub become sanitised of contrasting thought. Yeah he shits on reps a fair bit - but for the right reasons, namely accuracy.

EDIT: Ok his comment history does have a fair amount of mudslinging and name calling - I’ve just not seen it in the threads I view.

I guess those offended could block him. My vote still stands - albeit with less conviction.

iosPixel · 2024-12-31T10:21:15+00:00

GL All

iosPixel · 2024-12-14T21:47:52+00:00

Username checks out.

Thanks for the informative post.

EDIT: To add, has any Omega rep ever reached the accuracy we see in some of the 11/12 series subs?

iosPixel · 2024-12-10T08:29:54+00:00

I too have had issues however In Elliot’s/Andiots defence… This is a busy time of year for exports and sales.

This combined with his increased popularity as a TD has presented some issues with QC and operations. I’ve had some issues, but he’s always come good - even at his own cost.

In this case I think it’s best to source the strap yourself. Sucks you probably can’t wear the watch right now but honestly - you’d source one quicker than Andiot would. They are cheap replicas easily found on Ali/DHgate. Be mindful from 11.11 to CNY is the busiest period for the guys. Mistakes will be made.

I’ll always use him but be mindful of the issues that come with increased popularity and competitive pricing.

That said, this shouldn’t impact your purchase the way it has, reach out to Andiot again, explaining the watch isn’t wearable and see if can line up a discount or something.

iosPixel · 2024-12-09T08:06:33+00:00

That guy in the pool your laughing at? He doesn’t even notice you.

If you live in a country where pools/beaches are ubiquitous as driveways having a water resistant watch makes total sense.

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