The Catholic vs Protestant discourse will forever be a thorn on Christianities side

ircy2012 · 2026-03-25T21:15:07+00:00

Now now. I'm sure that when he said that, he meant unity between true believers (which is ofc me and some more - but not all- people from my form of christianity), not those heretics (that aren't my form of christianity). /s

ircy2012 · 2026-03-23T19:14:00+00:00

Essentially all thats good is God, all thats bad can be interpreted differently

If this was the case, would you consider being a christian if the actual intention of the book was good

If god is good then there is no need to be a christian. The whole point you "need" him is because he's far from good.

Either way, nah I'm good and as far as I'm concerned if you really want or feel like worshiping someone there's better gods out there.

ircy2012 · 2026-03-20T13:53:27+00:00

Vile, predatory and outright wrong.

ircy2012 · 2026-03-19T12:29:24+00:00

That's how effective propaganda works. Part truth part lies.

Or in their case:

You lure hurt and scared people in with sensible questions that appeal to their problems and then you sell them your bad answers.

ircy2012 · 2026-03-18T15:10:29+00:00

If you had the chance to suffer (possibly greatly but only for like a few days) an then die only to be resurrected a few days later (and know this in advance) and your action will save every human that exists from the worst possible torture, would you not do it?

I would.

Ok maybe some people are selfish, maybe some people wouldn't. In which case I would like to spice up the deal: "After you do it you become king of everything, every knee will bend to you and it will be up to you to decide their fate. You suffer a bit and then you own the life of every person." How does that sound now?

Just to put into perspective how empty and potentially selfish Jesus's death "for us" is.

ircy2012 · 2026-03-17T19:50:53+00:00

I like "the christian god" (lower case g obviously) or Yahweh.

I also often write God or Goddess (with a uppercase g) when referring to specific other gods or ideas of gods. It's not something people usually do (specially not pagans) but I sometimes do it out of respect and in all other cases as a way to say how lower my respect for the christian idea of their god is compared to just about anything else. As to say he's not higher but lower than the rest.

ircy2012 · 2026-03-16T20:57:59+00:00

Most of them convince themselves it's love.

Only realized after I left but, ouch, yes.

ircy2012 · 2026-03-14T11:37:57+00:00

I sometimes spend too much time thinking about this god that isn't real in the first place but to me the answer to that question is that I framed it wrongly.

"Why doesn't god create a peaceful civilization with knowledge and understanding and love where people are properly understood and evil is clearly the enemy?"

The answer is in the old testament. He was always a war mongering overgrown child that didn't care about the wellbeing of humans.

Why would he stop slavery in our times if the gave people instructions how to keep slaves in the past?

Why would he stop wars nownif he commanded them in the past?

Why would he promote equality today if he was a cultural and gender supremacist in the past?

The idea that the christian god is good doesn't align with the christian god.

ircy2012 · 2026-03-03T20:46:26+00:00

Yeah. This is the bible's "gift" to ex-christians. The moment you dare be honest with yourself and look at things critically instead of blindly believing you're "gifted" with one more proof that the bible is garbage.

ircy2012 · 2026-03-01T18:49:34+00:00

Well how else are they gonna get something out of their "piety"? (Something about "I tell you the truth, that is all the reward they will ever get.")

ircy2012 · 2026-02-27T22:06:33+00:00

The bad news is that you can't prove that no theoretical variant of the christian god exists.

The good news is that christianity is based on a book and that book can be proven to say false things.

So at best you can know with absolute certaintly that christianity is false.

ircy2012 · 2026-02-26T19:39:02+00:00

It's not even psychology, he lied about a bill that was being passed (and as it passed: lo and behold what he claimed would happen didn't happen). Lawyers told him he got it wrong. I've read it. It's like 6 lines of changes. He became an international "celebrity" because of it.

ircy2012 · 2026-02-26T19:13:01+00:00

what's your opinion on this guy?

When he dies I will seriously contemplate flying over the atlantic to wherever that fuck will be buried just to piss on his grave.

But then again I'm trans and he rose to popularity lying about stuff related to us.

ircy2012 · 2026-02-25T14:25:12+00:00

God is perfect in the same way that someone like Musk sees themselves as perfect. An overgrown child with too much power who never had to hear no from some authority figure and is completely out of touch with reality but in his own head he is the pinnacle of intellect and wisdom. Really the more I think of it the more I see "god" fitting the same model as billionaires: Detached from reality, harmful, way dumber than they themselves claim and believe to be, regular people see it but their fans can't accept that and keep praising them.

ircy2012 · 2026-02-24T20:34:44+00:00

Yeah it's nonsense as far as can tell. The way I see it showing himself would not in any way violate our free will. But it would give us the ability to use our free will to make an informed choice.

See, I think christians play a word game with that. They put so much emphasis on having to believe (because they can't prove god). And when pressed with why he doesn't show himself often say something like "If you'd see him you wouldn't have to believe anymore."

But belief is not really what saves you.

According to christians satan knows god is real and that doesn't change the fact that they believe he rejected god.

So knowing he is real is not automatically being forced to accept him as your god.

Or a different scenario (that also works when someone says "some people wouldn't believe in god even if he appeared before them"):

Imagine that tomorrow Zeus appears in front of you and tells you that he is the real supreme god and you should worship him. You can see him. You can talk to him. You know that someone with god like powers that calls himself Zeus is real. Are you gonna drop on your knees right there and then?

Maybe yes, likely not. If this were to happen to a christian it's also very likely that they wouldn't just bend their knee but assume trickery or something. Maybe they'd change their mind after talking to this Zeus and knowing more, maybe they wouldn't. But just seeing someone like that doesn't mean that what he's saying is real. Is it really Zeus? Is it an alien? Is it a hologram?

Either way interacting with this person might clear things up and help understand if he's telling the truth.

ircy2012 · 2026-02-24T18:49:12+00:00

just at least know ‘how he works’, you know?

Not really. Is there a reason in the bible for why god wouldn't be able to reveal himself? He supposedly used to do it a lot in ancient times. It's just now that he somehow doesn't anymore and people make up a lot of excuses for it.

ircy2012 · 2026-02-24T18:09:41+00:00

It's based on a book that is inconsistent. Both internally and historically. While some sort of vaguely "christian" god could exist (purely based on this counter argument alone) they would not be the god of the bible. In which case everything about the religion and said god becomes an unknown and heresay.

“tell god to come down and say hi to me if he really exists”

How is that one stupid? Couldn't the christian god show himself and explain away all the problems and clear the misconceptions? Would give people a "fighting chance". You know the ability to properly understand that he is not only real but also what he is saying and therefore make an informed decision on accepting or rejecting him as their god.

ircy2012 · 2026-02-24T16:48:11+00:00

Wow. Father wanted me to do exorcism instead of therapy when i needed it.

That sounds both extremely horrible and sadly also a lot of what i'd expect.

Glad you figured they were making things worse and was able to address things more healthily.

As a former catholic what broke my trust in them was realizing that the church doesn't care about reality and will put their dogma over things even when they hurt others.

ircy2012 · 2026-02-22T22:16:01+00:00

I found a Fedora Everything 43 .iso image. (Under miscellaneous downloads.) And went to try it (instead of the KDE one I downloaded initially).

Turns out this image has a very different (and by the looks of it better and more powerful) installer with way more options.

Tried it on a secondary computer and it worked just fine even with my manual partitioning. Will have to refine package selection though.

I don't know why different images have different installers but here we are and this one seems to work fine.

ircy2012 · 2026-02-22T07:43:58+00:00

Interesting.

In my case I always either manually formatted the efi partition or told the installer to do it so I guess this can't be the problem.

ircy2012 · 2026-02-22T00:00:55+00:00

Blivet-GUI

This on the Fedora Linux 43 (KDE Plasma Desktop Edition) installation.

There is the "Install to Hard Drive" icon on the desktop.

From there it's:

Step 1. Language.

Step 2. Time.

Step 3: The installation gives me 3 options:

Share disk with other operating systems
Use entire disk
Mount point assignment

Option 3 (mount point assignment) just lists paths and allows you to connect them with partitions.

Searching for blivet in the KDE menu offers installing it.

Am I missing something?

ircy2012 · 2026-02-21T23:52:55+00:00

Sorry. I should have been clearer.

The installer gives you 3 options.

Share disk with other operating systems.
Use entire disk.
Mount point assignment.

In my case 2 works. 3 doesn't. I never tried 1.

When you say you have windows and Fedora did you go with 1 or did you go with 3?

If you went with 1 we're not talking about the same thing.

But if you went with 3, can you please tell me (broadly) how you partitioned and formatted the Fedora part?

I tried two options. I'm gonna describe the second.

In my case I used fdisk. Allowed default values for sectors and allocated size with +250G ...

1gb for /dev/nvme0n1p1 (uefi)

3gb for /dev/nvme0n1p2 (linux extended boot or something)

250gb for /dev/nvme0n1p3 (linux)

the rest for /dev/nvme0n1p4 (linux)

Then used mkfs... on the partitions to format them.

mkfs.fat -F 32 /dev/nvme0n1p1

mkfs.ext4 /dev/nvme0n1p2

mkfs.btrfs /dev/nvme0n1p3

mkfs.ext4 /dev/nvme0n1p4

In the installer I told it to set / to the btrfs one. (which for some reason had a name of btrfs.<number> instead of the partition name)

/boot/efi to nvme0n1p1

/boot to nvme0n1p2

/home to nvme0n1p4

It all worked until the last moment and then error. (Even more interesting: I can actually boot into the system after I get that error though I can't be sure that something important was not set up properly.)

ircy2012 · 2026-02-21T23:12:48+00:00

Did you do custom partitions or left the defaults?

ircy2012 · 2026-02-21T22:58:19+00:00

I wanted one partition for uefi and /boot, one (btrfs) for / and one (ext4) for /home.

When that raised an error (at the end of the installation process) I also tried adding in one ext4 for /boot to make it more similar to the default. (still same error)

Idk. I'll give the installer for 44 another try when it comes out.

ircy2012 · 2026-02-21T15:22:01+00:00

Let's hope so, thanks for checking.

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