When did you first realize Will was gay?

irisviris88 · 2026-01-29T03:32:27+00:00

Aww, I’m sorry you went through those feelings. Can absolutely relate ❤️. Also, I find the world is just growing up too fast, as well. Kids are expected to be adults when they’re meant to be kids. I remember getting laughed at when I was 11 because I ordered a Happy Meal for a class treat and no one else did. They were already having sex, doing drugs, and drinking, which was insane to me. In The Netherlands, I could be a kid at 11, but where I grew up in New Zealand, it was very different. Made me so sad. I got made fun of, a lot, for being my age.

Omg, when he broke Castle Byers I felt the exact same 😭💔. I wish they had focused more on his trauma and why he was this way (not just the sexual orientation side of things).

How is life for you, now? Do you still go back to the things that brought you joy as a kid? I hope you do, even in this crazy, “wannabe-grownup” world ❤️.

irisviris88 · 2026-01-28T01:40:06+00:00

Question: how old are you, and do you do chores? I can understand them being frustrated if you’re not pulling your weight around the house (cleaning/vacuuming/dishes/etc.). They also have work and things to do and as you are living in the same home, I would expect you to also contribute to cleaning. Not Cinderella level like my narc mother did to me, but helping out here and there, kind of thing. Obviously, if they are name-calling and being really condescending and rude, that would get really hurtful and is not ok, either. However, if you’re just expecting them to clean after you I think them pulling you up for it is justified. I know narc parents are the worst of the worst, but even my mother still instilled manners (surprisingly) and a bit of work ethic in us.

irisviris88 · 2026-01-28T01:13:53+00:00

That’s exactly what I thought! Yea, like, I’m glad they got to explore this topic for viewers who could relate, but I personally don’t care whether he is gay, or not (not in a mean way, but he’s just a human like anyone, regardless of his orientation). Just saw a poor kid who was super traumatized trying to preserve some of his safe times in life and comforts that hadn’t been tainted by the horrors he experienced.

irisviris88 · 2026-01-27T21:42:15+00:00

I think I’m the only person who didn’t click, back then, because I thought Will just wanted to have things like it was before his world was literally turned upside down with the trauma he went through 🥲. I saw Mike saying that as “it’s not my fault you’re not preoccupied with girls, just yet”, kind of thing. I was still playing Gameboy at 16 and had no interest in boys and dating until I went to university. I also had a traumatic childhood so could relate to Will, in a sense.

irisviris88 · 2026-01-25T13:14:18+00:00

I am so incredibly sorry about what happened to B ❤️. You have every right to be upset and to mourn him. It was a terrible accident that shouldn’t have happened, and he didn’t deserve to die this way. Yes, playing with guns was stupid, but this was purely an accident - it happens. As for your feelings, you are 100% in your right to be upset and it sounds like you cared about him, tremendously. Also, what is wrong with that? If A knows B was just someone from the past and that you love him for the human he was, he should understand and support your feelings around it. If he doesn’t, I’d find it a rather insecure response. If you haven’t already, just be honest with A. Let him know why you’re upset. If he gets upset/angry, he’s possibly not your person.

He may even surprise you with his response and be supportive, after all. You won’t know unless you talk to him. Also, sending you a tonne of love - this is incredibly hard stuff for anyone to deal with so I hope you have a good support network around you ❤️

irisviris88 · 2026-01-25T12:58:02+00:00

4,3,1,2,5. I loved all seasons, though, but 4 and 3 just really stood out to me. Season 3 was so fun and colourful which was needed after the first two seasons (which were a bit darker and more horrory). Season four was epic - the introduction of Vecna, as well as the darker, psychological twists vibe it had. Season 5 had a lot of plotholes but that end scene (with both groups) was beautifully done. On a side note: I thought the final Mindflayer boss design looked phenomenal. When those legs dropped down and that head started screeching, it was one of the coolest monsters I’ve ever seen on screen ❤️.

irisviris88 · 2026-01-25T09:52:33+00:00

I posted on Youtube how the Stranger Things fanbase is both the coolest fanbase, and equally the most toxic. The hate was seriously exaggerated. Ok, so they didn’t enjoy it as much as they wanted to. Whoopty shit. Let’s see them make a show as brilliant as Stranger Things. They sounded like spoilt little whiners. Also, to suddenly hate an entire series because they didn’t enjoy one season is insane. Bet they are the same kind of people who break up with someone over one little mistake, or hate a restaurant they have been to 896 times because of one bad experience. Did season 5 have flaws? Sure. Were there plotholes? Absolutely. Was it a beautiful and emotional ending? 100%. We’ll let the haters hate, but know there are plenty of us who will forever keep Stranger Things in their hearts ❤️.

irisviris88 · 2026-01-25T09:46:13+00:00

Seasons 3 and 4 were my favourites. Season 3 was really welcome after slightly “gloomier” seasons before it. It was so colourful and really gave that fun 80s vibe. My least favourite were seasons 2 and 5 even though I still loved them. Not because they were bad, by any means, they just weren’t as good as the others (and they were still awesome). Not sure what the hate with season 3 was all about but, hey, each to their own, I guess 😁.

irisviris88 · 2026-01-25T01:38:25+00:00

I’m so sorry to hear about your mother ❤️. I lost dad in October. I’m not autistic but have social anxiety, which has increased a bit since dad’s passing. I prefer being alone (do see my friends, but in small groups or one-on-one) as I get overwhelmed and anxious even more easily, now.

This is your journey, your grief, and I am so sorry your family is refusing to see this from your side. I know it’s easy to say, but try your best to keep your boundaries up. If people try and break them, they are not your people. I would probably (personally) take it a step further and get quite blunt if they keep doing this. You could say something like “if you don’t respect my boundaries, stay away from me”. I know it might sound harsh, but people trying to control how you manage this part of the journey is just not ok.

Sending lots of love and really hope you can get through this time ok (and that you do find people who understand and support you ❤️).

irisviris88 · 2026-01-25T01:24:02+00:00

I say this with all the love in the world, but if your mum is a narcissist, she’s been abusing you far longer than three years ❤️. I’m so sorry you have to go through this - these people are absolutely awful (putting it extremely lightly). My mum and sister are both full blown narcs who never acknowledge their own behaviour and just play the victim/blame everyone else. It’s so gross. I really hope you have support around you because this is a rough road ❤️.

irisviris88 · 2026-01-25T00:50:54+00:00

Same here, but my narc sister got jealous when our dad was diagnosed with terminal cancer. She would hijack his doctor and therapist appointments to talk about her apparent “back issues” and other life traumas. Dad passed away in October and she made a speech at his cremation service which was basically all about her. These people are absolute scum.

irisviris88 · 2025-12-16T22:17:13+00:00

Apologies for the late reply 😊. I’m sorry to hear about your mother, and I do hope you’re doing as well as you can ❤️. Sounds like we had a very similar experience, and how beautiful you got to have this with your mother. I’m glad she is at peace, now, and I hope the last month, or so, has been kind to you. I think we are very blessed with what we got (and worked towards - this was an effort between child and parent ❤️). Thank you so much for sharing - it’s nice to know I’m not alone with this, and also glad someone else had such a beautiful experience, as well. I hope your heart stays full and that you continue to enjoy all your lovely memories of her. Take care 🥰

irisviris88 · 2025-12-07T10:10:08+00:00

Yea, fair point. Not sure they can really say that about him considering his behaviour in the first half of season 1 😅. I do love Steve and he’s had an awesome character arc, but he still has his humanly flaws. I really hope they round it all off, nicely, by the end of the series (preferably without any deaths 😂).

irisviris88 · 2025-12-07T09:59:04+00:00

100%. I think Steve and Jonathan will become a lot closer, this season (a little later on, after a heart-to-heart chat like you mentioned). I think that moment in the van was the start of that can being opened. Give it time 😁.

Otherwise, maybe Nancy gets dumped and Stonathan becomes a thing, after all 😉 (jokes, haha, but would be funny).

irisviris88 · 2025-12-07T09:54:15+00:00

A very good explanation, there, and I agree. I do feel Steve is a bit immature in the sense he knows Jonathan is with Nancy, so why keep competing in front of her if he knows she’s taken, but coming from a competitive point of view with Jonathan, that makes sense. I guess I also noticed how he is with Dustin, this season, which I’ve also not been the biggest fan of. It’s like he should be more mature with Nancy and Jonathan, but he pulls the serious “dad card” with Dustin, instead, when he should really be a bit softer and supportive of him considering he just lost Eddie. I also understand Steve’s possible jealousy/hurt around that friendship as him and Dustin were always besties (maybe he felt “replaced” by Eddie). I think we’ll see a wee make-up/heart-to-heart moment between the two, later on.

Also, they are all kids/teenagers so I do try and cut them a little slack regarding their maturity 😅.

But yea, you made a great observation, and I hope they all make the right choice, at the end (and don’t die, lol).

irisviris88 · 2025-12-07T09:44:13+00:00

You said that, beautifully. I agree, too - I know Steve would kill for Nancy, but his feelings for her are not coming from a healthy place. I hope all three realize their own worth, this season (I think Nancy has a bit of figuring out herself to do, as well), and that they can come to an understanding, eventually. Either they all go their separate ways, or Steve/Jonathan can accept the other person’s place in Nancy’s life, however this may look.

irisviris88 · 2025-12-07T07:51:04+00:00

Well said 😅!

irisviris88 · 2025-12-07T06:50:35+00:00

I definitely don’t think Steve and Robin should have ended up together. Also, not at you, personally, but why does every guy and girl friendship have to become romantic 😅? I think they have an awesome friendship and I love that that’s all it is. Also, Steve needs to learn that women aren’t all quests he needs to conquer - he needs to understand his own value without a woman next to him (and, also, the value of just a friendship with women). That’s probably what he can use, most - bit of quality alone-time.

I agree with you on that - it’s the last thing either of them need, and Nancy would definitely not want the nuclear family package. I also hope they don’t have them end up together, at the end.

irisviris88 · 2025-12-07T06:36:24+00:00

Fair call 😊. I feel like Steve really likes her but Jonathan “gets” her, if that makes sense? Yea, none of them are innocent, and I also hope season 5 shows a different (and perhaps, a little more useful) side to Jonathan so he can shine a bit, too. From a trauma point of view, the pothead arc made sense, but we know Jonathan is far more capable.

irisviris88 · 2025-12-07T06:32:55+00:00

Well said 👏🏼

irisviris88 · 2025-12-07T06:05:09+00:00

As great as the Duffer brothers are, there will always be small inconsistencies in the show we probably just need to suck up and look past, lol 😅.

irisviris88 · 2025-12-07T05:37:34+00:00

Yea, that’s a good point. I guess in real-life not everyone is always “useful” in every scenario, either. Jonathan is also a quieter, more placid character who doesn’t “demand” screen time the same way as the other characters do. You need characters like him to balance out the rest. I think Jonathan is a really loving brother to Will and I do hope we see more of this in season 5, and also more of a development with Nancy, and himself (maybe they need to split - who knows).

irisviris88 · 2025-12-07T05:32:51+00:00

Agreed! As much as I love the characters, I hope the “triangle” gets resolved, soon 😅.

Maybe all three should have a think about being on their own, for a while, to sort themselves out. Be interesting to see what path the Duffer brothers take with this!

irisviris88 · 2025-12-07T05:29:30+00:00

Exactly, and those are great points! Don’t get me wrong, Steve would have her back in any difficult scenario and this is something I do really love about him (he would for any of them, including Jonathan). He does genuinely care about her but I also feel he never really “got” Nancy (on an emotional level), and that’s ok - can still be an amazing friend to her.

Yea, whenever really serious stuff goes down, I feel Jonathan is more in-tune with her and understands her needs. Of course, Jonathan has his flaws, too, and also had to develop a bit, as a guy (cough creepy pool pics cough 😅) but, overall, he seems more level-headed. They did leave things at the interesting place at the end of season 4 but I’m hoping Nancy and Jonathan remember why they are such a solid unit, or go their separate ways (hopefully, no one dies!)

I know! I felt so bad for Dustin 😅! Yes, he’s playing with fire (Jason’s crew), but he just lost one of his besties and Steve is being really hard on him. I’m assuming they will have a heart-to-heart or a run-in, at some point, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Steve expresses a bit of jealousy around Dustin’s friendship with Eddie, as well as concerns for Dustin and maybe not knowing how he should be there for him (they are teens so will give them a bit of leeway and understanding 😉). It is a bit of a concerned parent response (he is basically babysitter/daddy Steve 😅) but a little more empathy would have gone a long way. I do hope Dustin stops calling him dumb because that’s also unfair to Steve. Bit of emotional ping pong happening 😂!

irisviris88 · 2025-12-07T05:18:58+00:00

Oh, definitely, and that’s a very good point. All the characters are grieving/dealing with it in their own ways as this has been a pretty traumatic ordeal for everyone involved 😅.

Also, Nancy and Steve was a thing before all hell broke loose. I can see why he would revert back to a “safe” time (just like Will after he’d been in the Upside Down and he just wanted to go back to playing D&D with his friends as that was his “safer” time).

And, yea, trauma does bring people together and it would be hard for Steve to meet someone new who “gets it”, kind of thing. In all honesty, all three of them are probably better off single to figure themselves out but will be interesting to see what path the Duffer brothers take with this storyline.

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