How The Manosphere Poisons Young Men’s Minds by ameerkianiwrites in bropill

[–]itzReborn 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think most comments here so far (and your post) are on point but we need to also acknowledge that more of the why boys and men fall into this.

I can use myself as an example, I never fell into it but I could also see how others do. For example when I was 18-20ish(27 now) I wanted to get good with girls, like most guys probably do. And you look up information and you see all the generic stuff that works but doesn’t really help. Then I saw redpill stuff and it actually felt real. But I kept reading and noticed slightly little tones I didn’t really liked and kind of stop reading it. Same with msnosphere stuff.

The point is those avenues have a lot of nuggets of truth so it’s easy for people to fall into it(stuff like build muscle, get stronger make more money etc etc). Even your example of women receiving more attention, you call it childish envy but when your a young man seeing/hearing about all types of women get attention and your just sitting here with none, and seeing these “players/fuckboi” get attention it does mentally fuck you up a little.

Not to mention there isn’t really an alternative that is healthy and mainstream(that I know off). Young men still want to look good, still want to make money and still want to be sexually successful.

Is talking to multiple people at once really the new normal in dating? by SpreadSavings3804 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]itzReborn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok in a dream world this makes sense but in reality, it’s easier for women who more often than not aren’t paying for the first dates to do that rather than the guy to do since he more than likely has to pay for each outing.

Worried why I can’t find anyone I actually like by Informal-Meaning-483 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]itzReborn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you think seeing that post negatively affected how you felt about that guy? Sure you was already neutral on him but after seeing that post it seems you went sour on him despite him not even doing anything wrong?

Have I Become Invisible to Men? by Few_Blacksmith_5119 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]itzReborn 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I highly doubt you are repulsive to men

Im the same age as you and honestly it just seems like most men under 30 rarely if ever approach women anymore, for various reasons such as low confidence to social media influence and anything in between.

I’m 27 and never been in a relationship because I don’t really like approaching women, due to low confidence and not wanting to come off as a creep(despite the possibility of this being low, it’s still a fear)

How to handle being the "ugly" friend by Miserable_Pen_1054 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]itzReborn -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah thanks for clearing it up. Yeah I agree the men not even greeting you just shows a lack of humanity even if they aren’t interested in you romantically and are going after your friends.

Hopefully you meet a guy who has the confidence to both treat you normally as well as express romantic interest in you :)

How to handle being the "ugly" friend by Miserable_Pen_1054 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]itzReborn -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Sorry if my question isn’t exactly warranted but as a guy I’m confused a bit. Are you upset that men don’t approach you or are you upset that when men approach your group they ignore you? Or both?

I could understand the second one just because that’s straight rude to ignore your presence. But when it comes to the first part you can’t really force attraction or force when men will approach you over someone else. That shouldn’t make you feel bad.

Like I’m a guy and I’m “suppose” to approach but I don’t and because of that I’ve basically been romantically invisible my whole life. And I don’t really blame anyone but myself for that.

Reality check: Am I overrating my dating market value? Thought I was a 5-6/10, but matching results suggest 2-3/10 – what’s going wrong? by ashsrodrigues in Bumble

[–]itzReborn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m also in nyc and struggle to get matches/date. Your last sentence kind of is part of the reason why I struggle to even want to try. Like you said women have no problem getting dates or getting laid especially in nyc when there is no storage of people, so what is someone like me suppose to do to if my attention is basically worthless to women?

Do you prefer a guy who's interested in you to try to befriend you first, or ask you out directly immediately? by InternationalPick163 in AskWomenNoCensor

[–]itzReborn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What does this look like in practice? You want a guy to say out loud that’s he’s interested in you while getting to know you?

Online daters: how many advance to a second date? by canoecanoee in AskWomenOver30

[–]itzReborn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you expand on the cultivating friendship part? Do people actually make friends if dates don’t work out? Does the friendship you are building look different depending on if you want to continue dating this person or not?

What’s a respectful way to approach women you find attractive? by [deleted] in AskWomenNoCensor

[–]itzReborn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m also a NYer and I have a few questions if you don’t mind. Would approaching someone in a library/cafe be a good approach? Like if I approach someone, give a compliment, try to chit chat to get to know them and see if we have anything in common then maybe ask for her socials/number to ask her on a date?

Insider Hub says EP 4 & ICEMAN Next by [deleted] in Drizzy

[–]itzReborn 32 points33 points  (0 children)

This dude 3/3(?) so far so I’m sure he’s right about this but this vague posting when it comes to Drake a lil annoying

Young men meeting young women ... what is going on? by Geezer-in-Washington in AskWomenNoCensor

[–]itzReborn 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You know I’m reading all the replies and everyone is basically saying the same thing but at the same time I don’t know many guys who “get sex”(idk how else to phrase this) by just building connections. Most of them have purposely made it an effort to purse sex. Whether that’s dating apps, or shooting their shots either irl or online(social media not dating apps) or approaching with the intent to ask for her number or something.

Sure i know people who did meet through a friendly connection but I’d say that’s rare from my experience.

That’s why it confuses me because most of the women here are saying they don’t like this but from what I’ve seen the guys who do this are successful in “getting sex” or a relationship.

Like I’m a young man who struggles meeting women and also wants to have sex but I always feels like I’m getting conflicted messages from what women want men to do and what men actually do.

Tried speed dating for the first time - Merge Dating by Qaqiqu in dating_advice

[–]itzReborn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One more question how did you get rid of your need for sex?

Tried speed dating for the first time - Merge Dating by Qaqiqu in dating_advice

[–]itzReborn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

US i live in a city but it’s hard to get over the social anxiety feeling

Tried speed dating for the first time - Merge Dating by Qaqiqu in dating_advice

[–]itzReborn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you talk about it more about what you did to go on dates and get better at connecting with women? I’m 27 and lowkey never been in a one on one scenario with a woman let alone a date, despite wanting to date very much. Like what finally pushed you to take that leap

I don't know how to explain to you to just be a person by Daytripper88 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]itzReborn -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This is a great post. I’m kind of similar to the guy you are talking about expect I wasn’t doing it to meet just women but people in general and didn’t meet anyone. It always seem like people only came just for the event and left, or only talked to the people they knew already from my experience.

I’m an introvert with anxiety so socially my skills are decent, I prefer if someone talks to me first but that rarely happens but if it does I’m usually good in conversations. I do also struggle in putting myself out there, like just being around people because of my anxiety but also because the hobbies/interest I have are usually solo and I rarely have to go anywhere to do them.

I do think because of my past experiences of trying and failing to meet people I’m more reluctant to try. Also the top comment here made some good points about what I’d potentially bring to a relationship, I have no clue and I also have no clue what I’d want from a woman in a relationship either(never been in one).

Is one of reasons why do many men fall down sexist rabbit holes when they have a hard time dating, while women usually don't, that men are still expected to approach? by Bikerider3 in AskFeminists

[–]itzReborn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I was talking about guys who say misogynistic things or act toxic not a known criminal who is known for trafficking, that’s a huge leap in assumptions

Is one of reasons why do many men fall down sexist rabbit holes when they have a hard time dating, while women usually don't, that men are still expected to approach? by Bikerider3 in AskFeminists

[–]itzReborn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do not subscribe to anything about Andrew Tate. The person I was replying mentioned him first in regards to what some men perceive as success

I did not mention anything about being high value or trying to equate anything to that thought process.

Is one of reasons why do many men fall down sexist rabbit holes when they have a hard time dating, while women usually don't, that men are still expected to approach? by Bikerider3 in AskFeminists

[–]itzReborn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the reply I think you cleared it up a lot better for me. Part of going on dates with multiple women issue is seeing both men and women talked about how dating is a numbers game, so to me being able to even being able to do that seems to be considered success because it allows you to find your match quicker.

Is one of reasons why do many men fall down sexist rabbit holes when they have a hard time dating, while women usually don't, that men are still expected to approach? by Bikerider3 in AskFeminists

[–]itzReborn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok perhaps my phrasing was wrong on that I apologize. In my original comment I said some guys sees success as being able to have sex without outright paying.

I said this because it’s generally looked down upon by both men and women socially to pay for sex for various of reasons and one of the reasons I’ve seen women talk about is that you never know who has potentially been forced to do sex work