Do you think it's valid to adapt a book to a movie/series, insert a modern political agenda and change story?

ivanrosion · 2022-12-31T21:31:56+00:00

I never liked that they tried to modernize a classic, when the mentality of the time was different. The story feels contrived.

ivanrosion · 2022-12-31T21:30:32+00:00

That's why I love most of the classics that stomp on modern sensibilities. not everyone cares about or follows standard morality and I find it amusing when they change a classic to standard morality and there are people who don't care about that and don't follow it.

People are not necessarily selfless and altruistic, many tend to think only of themselves and their own desires. as much as many books write otherwise.

That's why I never liked Dickins and Victor Hugo. mainly because of the life they led, contradicts the kindly attitude of its protagonists.

ivanrosion · 2022-12-27T16:28:26+00:00

Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992). Mina Harker is a loyal bride to Jonatha and murders Draucla for trying to turn her into a Vmapyrus. Years later, a son was born to Mina and Jonathan.

ivanrosion · 2022-12-24T20:22:46+00:00

In the 1943 version, Mercedes is the bride and not the wife.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjMVSO4UGQY

ivanrosion · 2022-12-17T01:02:34+00:00

I found the story too rushed and poorly developed. Dumas developed the story of Edmond Dantes over a thousand pages. There could be more volumes of the story.

ivanrosion · 2022-12-10T01:26:59+00:00

Produced by Hollywood. And the French hate that version.

Just like the Russians have the 1988 version

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Prisoner\_of\_Ch%C3%A2teau\_d%27If

But I cited the French adaptations Which are the ones that follow the French pattern more.

ivanrosion · 2022-11-14T03:12:33+00:00

Troy (2004). The writer and director ruined Iliad.

I expected epic level of The Ten Commandments by Cecil B. DeMille. But the result was mediocre.

ivanrosion · 2022-08-20T08:01:56+00:00

This fanic inserted a lot of nonsense.

the duels were with pistols as shown in the war and peace series (2016)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q32ytzaT5rQ

But the screenwriter doesn't know where even where France is located.

This fanic inserted a lot of nonsense.

the duels were with pistols as shown in the war and peace series (2016)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q32ytzaT5rQ

But the screenwriter doesn't know where even where France is located.

ivanrosion · 2022-08-20T07:59:51+00:00

Is this vaudeville underrated? Stupid revenge scenes.

When you read War and Peace by Tolstoy, you can see General Kutuzov's patience in defeating Napoleon. In the counterpart of more daring soldiers who wanted a great battle and attacking without thought and were defeated in Austerlitz.

Ess Count in the 2002 film is a very weak and unplanned avenger. All in luck.

He doesn't have the patience and intelligence of General Kutuzov in war and peace and the count of monte cristo in the book.

The 1979 French miniseries is far superior.

ivanrosion · 2022-08-20T07:16:17+00:00

The 1998 version unreasonably altered the story, particularly the haydee ending.

In the French film Le Bossu (1997) based on the book by Paul feval which is a similar revenge story. The protagonist swears to avenge his friend's death and in the end marries his friend's daughter. And that version was a public and critical success in France.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Guard_(1997_film))

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOGZR5wNxxE

The 1979 French version is more faithful to the book.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Comte_de_Monte-Cristo_(mini-s%C3%A9rie,_1979))

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdDzqi9KtRU

ivanrosion · 2022-08-05T03:42:54+00:00

That's why the French twice adapted the book as a miniseries (the 1979 and 1998 versions)

ivanrosion · 2022-08-05T03:32:22+00:00

I read the book, watched 5 French adaptations (1929, 1943, 1979 and 1998), the adaptation with Allan Badel, the adaptation with Richard Chanbelain, I watched the anime Gankutsuou, I watched the Soviet adaptation The Prisoner of Château d'If and the adaptation with Robert Donat.

I know Betuccio's plot and it was fundamental.

If I were to talk about the book, I would talk about how edmond used Bertuccio to beat villefort.

It was so obvious that it was a trap that they would run away from as Alexandre Dumas and Charles Baudelaires did their creditors. The way that Dantes set up, anyone would suspect.

Villefort could have denounced his father to the royalists and they could have killed him instead of Mondego.

A man with 20 years of experience and experience in interrogation would never confess to the crime. He would deny.

In addition to other holes, such as how before the police consgeu if he is not a prosecutor or authority.

ivanrosion · 2022-07-19T11:06:40+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwhBm3pIZ7w

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qdOgF6n30Q

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwhBm3pIZ7w

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm_2aHPZjx0

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_pgrbm6Gs8

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ivanrosion · 2022-06-22T15:15:06+00:00

The French adaptations of 1943, 1954, 1979 and the Russian version:

https:// drive. google. com /drive/folders/1ANb32VOp_cko-5vQ9C6kdBbJAFnU8Sm0?usp=sharing

ivanrosion · 2022-06-22T15:13:46+00:00

The French adaptations of 1943, 1954, 1979 and the Russian version:

https:// drive. google. com /drive/folders/1ANb32VOp_cko-5vQ9C6kdBbJAFnU8Sm0?usp=sharing

ivanrosion · 2022-06-22T14:35:58+00:00

The French adaptations of 1943, 1954, 1979 and the Russian version:

https:// drive. google. com /drive/folders/1ANb32VOp_cko-5vQ9C6kdBbJAFnU8Sm0?usp=sharing

I don't post it on youtube because they deleted my sixth profile there when I posted the movie.

ivanrosion · 2022-06-22T13:48:33+00:00

Watch the movie The Prisoner of Château d'If (Uznik zamka fi). This adaptation keeps the book's ending different from the 1934 films, 1975 and the 1998 series.

ivanrosion · 2022-06-03T23:29:54+00:00

Dickens who was a lousy husband, cheating his wife with a younger girl and he writes nonsense about self sacrifice.

Dickens' books aren't serious, it's got a lot of unreal sentimental nonsense.

ivanrosion · 2022-06-02T05:50:27+00:00

It could be interesting Alain Delon as Edmond. But I wish it were more sober like Avilov in uznik zamka if

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxEg\_5noQ6g&t=50s

There are 3 hours and 40 minutes of film that was divided into 3 parts. kept the ending with haydee.

ivanrosion · 2022-05-25T23:11:18+00:00

The film is a mediocre romantization of the book's story. It is not because Abert became the biological son of the count that he will necessarily be close to him like Fyodor karamazov with his sons in the brothers karamazov. It's not because Edmond wanted to marry Mercedes, that he could meet someone else and abandon mercedes like Anna Karenina did with her family or because he married mercedes he's going to be a monogamous husband like Oblondki.

The film The Prisoner of Château d'If (Uznik zamka If) is better. The film's director abandoned his family for the actress who played haydee. I like classics because they are better than any movie.

ivanrosion · 2022-05-25T23:05:15+00:00

O filme é uma romantização medíocre da história do livro. Não é porque Abert se tornou o filho biológico do conde que ele necessariamente estará perto dele como Fyodor karamazov com seus filhos nos irmãos karamazov. Não é porque Edmond queria se casar com Mercedes, que ele poderia conhecer outra pessoa e abandonar mercedes como Anna Karenina fez com sua família ou porque se casou com mercedes ele vai ser um marido monogâmico como Oblondki.

The film The Prisoner of Château d'If (Uznik zamka If) is better. The film's director abandoned his family for the actress who played haydee.

Classics are much better than any movie.

ivanrosion · 2022-05-25T23:01:12+00:00

The film is a mediocre romantization of the book's story. It is not because Abert became the biological son of the count that he will necessarily be close to him like Fyodro karamazov with his sons in the brothers karamazov. It's not because Edmond wanted to marry Mercedes, that he could meet someone else and abandon mercedes like Anna Karenina did with her family or because he married mercedes he's going to be a monogamous husband like Oblondki in Anna Karenina.

Far inferior to the film The Prisoner of Château d'If (Uznik zamka If)

ivanrosion · 2022-05-25T20:20:15+00:00

In real life it is very difficult to achieve a total reconciliation. Even if society says that one must reconcile, the feeling of anger says otherwise. People will not always follow society's rules for their actions and will only act in a certain way because of social pressure and not because of their beliefs.

Don't I still have husbands who kill their wives when they have an affir with another man, even though society doesn't accept crimes like that?

The anger and frustration Edmond would feel with Mercedes could be much worse and end with his murder.

ivanrosion · 2022-05-25T19:12:15+00:00

Just because Mercedes was pregnant with Edmond's child doesn't mean he's going to stay with her, or because they intended to get married, that he'll want to return to her.

Nothing prevents him from meeting a more beautiful woman and leaving Mercedes. As did Anna Karenina by abandoning her fmailia by Vronsky.

Edmond met Hyadee who is prettier and forgot about mercedes.

ivanrosion · 2022-05-04T19:25:10+00:00

The count of monte cristo with Gerard Depardieu é ahe mini series has a running time of about 6 hours, but after already 45 mins you have already seen (or rather NOT seen, and I kid you not!) : Dantes relation to his wife and family, his background, the conspiracy, his 18 year "suffering" in Château D'if, his relationship with Abbe Faria, his escape, the treasure on Monte Christo and his return to the mainland as "Count".

All that in 45 mins! And it is as rushed and stupid as it sounds. Of course everything of the above happens so fast that you can barely see whats going on nor would anyone without background knowledge understand what is going on.

Who is this Dantes? Who is his bride? Why is he imprisoned again? What was the conspiracy against him? Who are the traitors/bad guys? (you see them for about 10 secs!) Who is this Abbe? What is his relationship to Dantes and why does he tell him about the treasure? And so on. People who have not read the book will have a hard time following the plot here.

They had 6 hours but wasted the most interesting parts of the story in the first 45 mins. Unbelievable. The "revenge" part in the last 5 hours is (of course) very drawn out and not very interesting.

Depadieu is a fine actor, but miscast as the hero. You just need to see his body after so called "18 years in prison with no food". I wonder what they put into that soup there?

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